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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Sat Nov 4 00:17:41 2000 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 53251 invoked by uid 4004); 3 Nov 2000 21:51:04 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 53245 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 21:51:01 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (64.209.169.103) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 21:51:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-1119315-934-973288294-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2000 21:51:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 2534 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2000 21:51:34 -0000 X-Sender: liz@ubermorgen.com X-Apparently-To: web-law@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 3 Nov 2000 21:40:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 2711 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 21:40:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Nov 2000 21:40:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ubermorgen.com) (62.116.31.68) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 21:40:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 53133 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 21:39:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.84.244.173?) (212.84.244.173) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 21:39:39 -0000 X-Sender: mailliz@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.20001103140054.02262f50@207.192.128.40> References: <4.3.0.20001103140054.02262f50@207.192.128.40> To: web-law@egroups.com From: lizvlx X-eGroups-Approved-By: SImparl@aol.com via email; 3 Nov 2000 21:51:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list web-law@egroups.com; contact web-law-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list web-law@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:40:17 +0100 Reply-To: web-law@egroups.com Subject: Re: [web-law] Fwd: FC: Internic deletes vote-auction.com from domain database? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: actually, there is some new information about the case. i - one of the makers of voteauction.com - have it here for you. it was CORE who deaccctivated our domain. CORE (corenic.org) is a "meta-registry" located in switzerland. our registry, CSL gmbh, germany (joker.com) is a member of CORE. CSL registers domains via CORE. CORE received an email (!!!) on wednesday from some-one (attorney-general or court) in missouri with an attached "order granting temporary restraining order". they then deactivated the domain right away. we received notice of this action 1 day later. (if you would like to see this doc, pls contact me, i only received it as well via email, and only in the form of several .pdfs), i will send it to you. CORE is also a named defendant in this missouri lawsuit. it is a civil lawsuit. in CORE's registration agreement (remember, my registrar is CSL, not CORE), they have a paragrph 4, which states something like "we can decactivate a domain if it is being used in an unlawful way". in another paragraph, they claim periods of notice they have to give in such cases: .normal period: 30 days notice .short period: 7 days ntice (don't ask me when which applies) .no notice: if they receive a properly authenticated order from o court of competent jurisdiction" see the doc: https://joker.com/domain/agreement.html?lang=EN (you have to scroll down to the actual reg. agreement) then, in another paragraph, they state that the governing law of the contract is the swiss one: " Any action to enforce this Agreement or any matter relating to your use of the CORE site shall be brought exclusively in the courts of Switzerland located in Geneva." appearantly, they feel that a missouri restraining order is governed under swiss law (???), and that email prooves athenticity. very strange to me. we have informed them, that we will sue them for damages e.a. if they do not re-activate the domain until monday 12:00, cet. this just to clear things up a bit. last note: we never received proper notice of ANY court hearings, dates, or other notice of the law suit. the proper way would be the notification via the ministrties of external affairs from both countries (bilateral agreement between .at and .us) all they did was give us a phone call to a mobile phone, and that was tuesday night. the order was issued on wednesday. very funny. best lizvlx > >http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/03/1852255&mode=nested >> >>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:45:39 +0100 (MET) >>From: Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski >>To: Declan McCullagh >>Subject: vote-auction.com deleted from DNS >> >>Dear Declan, >> >> the conflict with vote-auction.com has reached a new level. >>Internic deleted its DNS entry on November 1st, after the domain was >>registered and hosted by an European registry service and was out of reach >>for US law. You can still reach it at http://62.116.31.68/, and you can >>read their press release there. A number of other domains >>(www.voteauction.at, www.voteauction.de, www.voteauction.cu, >>www.voteauction.ru, www.vote-auction.net, www.vote-auction.org) should be >>up soon. No matter what you think about it, wether you see it as an >>political satire or take it seriously (the makers don't), it is >>interesting to see that .com is obviously ruled by US law. Maybe .eu is a >>better idea than I originally thought. >> >>Regards, >> >> Iliya Nickelt >> >>-- >> | Iliya Nickelt | >> | Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam | >> | Telegrafenberg, 14473 Potsdam | >> | Tel. +49 331-288 2308 (Fax 2310) | >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology >>You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. >>To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html > >This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >philo@radix.net AOLIM: philo589 ICQ: 9802707 >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >The memories of my family outings are still a source of strength to me. I >remember we'd all pile into the car - I forget what kind it was - and drive >and >drive. 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Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/18/_/38490/_/973288294/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Sat Nov 4 01:54:45 2000 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 53583 invoked by uid 4004); 3 Nov 2000 22:41:23 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 53580 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 22:41:20 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (64.209.169.103) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 22:41:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-1119315-937-973291318-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2000 22:42:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 1840 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2000 22:41:58 -0000 X-Sender: SImparl@aol.com X-Apparently-To: web-law@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 3 Nov 2000 22:36:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 20576 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 22:36:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Nov 2000 22:36:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r16.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.70) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 22:36:40 -0000 Received: from SImparl@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id a.72.4874f06 (16785) for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:36:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <72.4874f06.273497da@aol.com> To: web-law@egroups.com X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 From: simparl@aol.com X-eGroups-Approved-By: SImparl@aol.com via email; 3 Nov 2000 22:41:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list web-law@egroups.com; contact web-law-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list web-law@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:36:10 EST Reply-To: web-law@egroups.com Subject: Re: [web-law] Fwd: FC: Internic deletes vote-auction.com from domain database? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: Hi, Andy. The jurisdiction would presumably be based on the traditional "minimum contacts" analysis for personal jurisdiction. It may help to look at some of the documents filed in the case, which are available at: http://63.86.111.157/vote_auction_pages.htm I find the claims for jurisdiction dubious at best. The Complaint and Memorandum of Law contain a shocking amount of speculation about facts, but suffer from substantiation of facts. Also, the ACLU is now in the case, and I believe it has been removed to federal court. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001101/us/votes_for_sale_2.html I hope this helps. FWIW, I have offered my assistance to ACLU of Illinois in the case. Steven D. Imparl, JD Attorney and Counselor at Law Chicago, Illinois USA http://www.imparl.net Author, Internet Law: The Complete Guide In a message dated 11/3/2000 4:21:05 PM Central Standard Time, andyhepler@mindspring.com writes: > In reference to the message below, what is the jurisdiction of the US > Government/legal system for domains/websites located and/or registered > outside of the US? > > Does anyone know if there are international standards/laws? > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philo [mailto:philo@radix.net] > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:01 PM > To: web-law@egroups.com > Subject: [web-law] Fwd: FC: Internic deletes vote-auction.com from domain > database? > > > >http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/03/1852255&mode=nested > > > >Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:45:39 +0100 (MET) > >From: Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski > >To: Declan McCullagh > >Subject: vote-auction.com deleted from DNS > > > >Dear Declan, > > > > the conflict with vote-auction.com has reached a new level. > >Internic deleted its DNS entry on November 1st, after the domain was > >registered and hosted by an European registry service and was out of reach > >for US law. You can still reach it at http://62.116.31.68/, and you can > >read their press release there. A number of other domains > >(www.voteauction.at, www.voteauction.de, www.voteauction.cu, > >www.voteauction.ru, www.vote-auction.net, www.vote-auction.org) should be > >up soon. No matter what you think about it, wether you see it as an > >political satire or take it seriously (the makers don't), it is > >interesting to see that .com is obviously ruled by US law. Maybe .eu is a > >better idea than I originally thought. > > > >Regards, > > > > Iliya Nickelt > > > >-- > > | Iliya Nickelt | > > | Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam | > > | Telegrafenberg, 14473 Potsdam | > > | Tel. +49 331-288 2308 (Fax 2310) | > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology > >You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. > >To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html > >This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > philo@radix.net AOLIM: philo589 ICQ: 9802707 > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > The memories of my family outings are still a source of strength to me. I > remember we'd all pile into the car - I forget what kind it was - and drive > and > drive. I'm not sure where we'd go, but I think there were some trees there. > The > smell of something was strong in the air as we played whatever sport we > played. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Sat Nov 4 01:54:47 2000 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 53466 invoked by uid 4004); 3 Nov 2000 22:17:45 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 53463 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 22:17:43 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 22:17:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-1119315-936-973289900-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2000 22:18:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 32557 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2000 22:18:19 -0000 X-Sender: andyhepler@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: web-law@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 3 Nov 2000 22:15:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23953 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 22:15:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Nov 2000 22:15:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp6.mindspring.com) (207.69.200.110) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 22:15:50 -0000 Received: from andyhepler (pool-63.52.20.25.atln.grid.net [63.52.20.25] (may be forged)) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13003 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:15:48 -0500 (EST) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.20001103140054.02262f50@207.192.128.40> From: "Andy Hepler" X-eGroups-Approved-By: SImparl@aol.com via email; 3 Nov 2000 22:18:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list web-law@egroups.com; contact web-law-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list web-law@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:24:02 -0500 Reply-To: web-law@egroups.com Subject: RE: [web-law] Fwd: FC: Internic deletes vote-auction.com from domain database? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: In reference to the message below, what is the jurisdiction of the US Government/legal system for domains/websites located and/or registered outside of the US? Does anyone know if there are international standards/laws? Andy -----Original Message----- From: Philo [mailto:philo@radix.net] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:01 PM To: web-law@egroups.com Subject: [web-law] Fwd: FC: Internic deletes vote-auction.com from domain database? >http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/03/1852255&mode=nested > >Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:45:39 +0100 (MET) >From: Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski >To: Declan McCullagh >Subject: vote-auction.com deleted from DNS > >Dear Declan, > > the conflict with vote-auction.com has reached a new level. >Internic deleted its DNS entry on November 1st, after the domain was >registered and hosted by an European registry service and was out of reach >for US law. You can still reach it at http://62.116.31.68/, and you can >read their press release there. A number of other domains >(www.voteauction.at, www.voteauction.de, www.voteauction.cu, >www.voteauction.ru, www.vote-auction.net, www.vote-auction.org) should be >up soon. No matter what you think about it, wether you see it as an >political satire or take it seriously (the makers don't), it is >interesting to see that .com is obviously ruled by US law. Maybe .eu is a >better idea than I originally thought. > >Regards, > > Iliya Nickelt > >-- > | Iliya Nickelt | > | Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam | > | Telegrafenberg, 14473 Potsdam | > | Tel. +49 331-288 2308 (Fax 2310) | > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology >You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. >To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html >This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------- philo@radix.net AOLIM: philo589 ICQ: 9802707 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The memories of my family outings are still a source of strength to me. I remember we'd all pile into the car - I forget what kind it was - and drive and drive. I'm not sure where we'd go, but I think there were some trees there. The smell of something was strong in the air as we played whatever sport we played. -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/18/_/38490/_/973289900/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Sat Nov 4 01:54:48 2000 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 53371 invoked by uid 4004); 3 Nov 2000 22:05:49 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 53368 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 22:05:49 -0000 Received: from hn.egroups.com (208.50.99.199) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 22:05:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-1119315-935-973289188-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2000 22:06:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16309 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2000 22:06:27 -0000 X-Sender: AVeryPsychicMale@aol.com X-Apparently-To: web-law@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 3 Nov 2000 22:02:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16904 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 22:02:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Nov 2000 22:02:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.33) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 22:02:38 -0000 Received: from AVeryPsychicMale@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id a.f.b5133b2 (3312) for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:02:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: web-law@egroups.com X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 123 From: AVeryPsychicMale@aol.com X-eGroups-Approved-By: SImparl@aol.com via email; 3 Nov 2000 22:06:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list web-law@egroups.com; contact web-law-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list web-law@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:02:30 EST Reply-To: web-law@egroups.com Subject: Re: [web-law] Fwd: FC: Internic deletes vote-auction.com from domain database? 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Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/18/_/38490/_/973289188/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Sat Nov 4 01:54:49 2000 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 52356 invoked by uid 4004); 3 Nov 2000 20:01:38 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 52353 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 20:01:36 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (208.50.144.94) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 20:01:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-1119315-932-973281731-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2000 20:02:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 21993 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2000 20:02:11 -0000 X-Sender: philo@radix.net X-Apparently-To: web-law@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 3 Nov 2000 19:01:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25583 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 19:01:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Nov 2000 19:01:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pbjwebworks.com) (141.156.23.252) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 19:01:56 -0000 Received: from cj49297-a.radix.net ([10.13.17.37]) by pbjwebworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:01:15 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.0.20001103140054.02262f50@207.192.128.40> X-Sender: philo@207.192.128.40 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 To: web-law@egroups.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2000 19:01:15.0647 (UTC) FILETIME=[70E908F0:01C045C8] From: Philo X-eGroups-Approved-By: SImparl@aol.com via email; 3 Nov 2000 20:02:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list web-law@egroups.com; contact web-law-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list web-law@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:01:15 -0500 Reply-To: web-law@egroups.com Subject: [web-law] Fwd: FC: Internic deletes vote-auction.com from domain database? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: A X-Keywords: >http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/03/1852255&mode=nested > >Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:45:39 +0100 (MET) >From: Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski >To: Declan McCullagh >Subject: vote-auction.com deleted from DNS > >Dear Declan, > > the conflict with vote-auction.com has reached a new level. >Internic deleted its DNS entry on November 1st, after the domain was >registered and hosted by an European registry service and was out of reach >for US law. You can still reach it at http://62.116.31.68/, and you can >read their press release there. A number of other domains >(www.voteauction.at, www.voteauction.de, www.voteauction.cu, >www.voteauction.ru, www.vote-auction.net, www.vote-auction.org) should be >up soon. No matter what you think about it, wether you see it as an >political satire or take it seriously (the makers don't), it is >interesting to see that .com is obviously ruled by US law. Maybe .eu is a >better idea than I originally thought. > >Regards, > > Iliya Nickelt > >-- > | Iliya Nickelt | > | Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam | > | Telegrafenberg, 14473 Potsdam | > | Tel. +49 331-288 2308 (Fax 2310) | > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology >You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. >To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html >This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------- philo@radix.net AOLIM: philo589 ICQ: 9802707 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The memories of my family outings are still a source of strength to me. I remember we'd all pile into the car - I forget what kind it was - and drive and drive. I'm not sure where we'd go, but I think there were some trees there. The smell of something was strong in the air as we played whatever sport we played. -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/18/_/38490/_/973281731/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_->