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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 13:21:03 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 12522 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 09:37:27 -0000 Received: from waste.silverserver.co.at (194.152.178.7) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 09:37:27 -0000 Received: from ikarus (ikarus.sil.at [194.152.178.41]) by waste.silverserver.co.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19713; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:33:22 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:42:11 +0200 (MEST) From: SILVER SERVER o2 X-Sender: oskar@ikarus To: lizvlx , ubermorgen Subject: hosting questions (fwd) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 hoi, kennt ihr die partie? cu o. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:34:11 -0400 From: COPWATCHcom To: o@sil.at Subject: hosting questions Hello- I recently read of your association with vote-auction.com. I, too, am involved with a controversial US website that, when fully operational, is anticipated to garner negative attention from the government. Specifically, we are creating a publicly-searchable web-based database of complaints lodged against law enforcement officials. The information input by aggrieved citizens will include (among other data): the name of the allegedly offending officer; the jurisdiction of the officer; the specific allegations against the officer; the complainant's opinion of the officer; etc. According to our research, no part of this project is illegal under US or international law. However, we anticipate that it will be met with opposition from US government quarters and from individual members of the US law enforcement community. It is very likely that attempts will be made to file baseless civil lawsuits alleging libel, defamation, and/or similar causes of action. Therefore, we would prefer to utilize a hosting company that could ignore US service of process. Is this a service which you would be comfortable hosting? If so, am I correct in assuming that you can/would ignore US service of civil process? If so, could you please forward English-language copies of your service contract/terms of use agreement, your hosting/pricing plans, and your technical specifications (connection speeds, software support, server specs)? Thank you for your assistance, Cordially, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.copwatch.com POLICING THE POLICE Resources for fighting police brutality and other forms of law-enforcement misconduct. Featuring a searchable nationwide database of complaints filed against police officers, as well as a comprehensive compilation of articles, studies, statistics, and commentaries. Contribute your complaints, links, photos and videos to copwatch@lokmail.net FIGHT BACK WITH COPWATCH.COM From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 13:21:03 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 32091 invoked by alias); 29 Oct 2000 05:50:54 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 32088 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2000 05:50:54 -0000 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.33) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 29 Oct 2000 05:50:54 -0000 Received: from Terrorex@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id x.8f.26f2b6b (3849) for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:50:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrorex@aol.com Message-ID: <8f.26f2b6b.272d149f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:50:23 EDT Subject: ElectionAuction.com To: pr@vote-auction.com X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 Hi, Is ElectionAuction.com your site too? -Terrorex From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 13:21:03 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 21514 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 23:39:38 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 21511 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 23:39:38 -0000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.39) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 23:39:38 -0000 Received: from SFlood6771@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.31.) id x.77.b26b4cb (5708); Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web32.aolmail.aol.com (web32.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.8]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.20) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:39:38 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:39:37 EDT From: SFlood6771@aol.com Subject: iBallot.Com secure Internet voting system To: Cc: X-Mailer: Unknown Message-ID: <77.b26b4cb.2724d4ba@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 Dear Vote-Auction.Com, We own and administer iBallot.Com, a premire secure Internet voting system. 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Scott Flood iBallot.Com (603) 645-0111 746 Chestnut Street Manchester, NH USA 03104 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:11:58 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.panix.com ([166.84.0.212]) by viemta02.chello.at (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 9caa03a7df1d31c048ffcc0d31ac5855) with ESMTP id <20001229033251.NWIX3021.viemta02@mail1.panix.com> for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 04:32:51 +0100 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.0.228]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9579748D8B for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by panix3.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) id WAA23953; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:30:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:30:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200012290330.WAA23953@panix3.panix.com> To: "LIZVLX.chello.at" From: RTMark Reporting Subject: 2000 Annual Report (for lizvlx@chello.at): eToys is dead! Long live chocolates! Sender: announce0050-proxy@rtmark.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 This message is not commercial. Get off our list by writing mailto:remove@rtmark.com?subject=lizvlx@chello.at. December 29, 2000 (first anniversary of victory over eToys) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE IMPOSTURE, PREDATION MARK 2000 TONE The WTO becomes honest, children get "tough love" from corporate predators, and the elections really were auctioned off after all At RTMark, the rough-and-tumble Year 2000 was dominated by significant cultural payoffs, as well as one obvious failure. And preparing the way for the year's funniest moment was RTMark's first- quarter transfer of Gatt.org (http://rtmark.com/gatt.html) to a group of impostors known as The Yes Men (http://www.theyesmen.org/wto/), who have maintained the site ever since. IMPOSTORS MAKE THE WTO HONEST The transfer paid off in May, when an organizer of a conference for lawyers specializing in international trade matters visited Gatt.org and, without reading the text very closely, clicked "Contact" to invite WTO Director-General Mike Moore to speak. "Moore" declined but offered to send a substitute. In late October, one Dr. Andreas Bichlbauer (actually Veshengo Phuridili, a Yes Man) spoke at the conference. His lecture described the WTO's ideas and ultimate aims in terms that were horrifyingly stark--suggesting, for example, the replacement of inefficient democratic institutions like elections with private-sector solutions like Voteauction.com, an Internet startup selling votes to the highest corporate bidder. None of the lawyers in attendance expressed dismay at Dr. Bichlbauer's proposals, which The Yes Men have posted, along with all correspondence, at http://www.theyesmen.org/wto/. They are currently preparing video documentation of the lecture, questions, staged pieing, and lunch. A DOWNTURN FOR A DEMOCRACY Voteauction.com (http://rtmark.com/voteauction.html), the "private-sector solution" of which Dr. Bichlbauer spoke, itself formed the largest dividend of 2000 for the RTMark investor. Newspaper and TV journalists who covered the story often found ways to mention that corporations already buy votes--exactly the point founder James Baumgartner had hoped would be made. (Baumgartner is currently planning a spring lecture tour to help defray legal costs he incurred fighting lawsuits before the ACLU came to his rescue. He can be reached at mailto:voteauction@mail.com.) But 2000 was certainly not all free speech and good luck. And the year's biggest disappointment began with 1999's biggest triumph. ETOYS IS DEAD (NEARLY)! LONG LIVE FERRERO! One year ago today, eToys capitulated to activist pressure--which some say had helped drive down its stock price, recently sighted at $0.03--and officially gave up its attempt to steal an art group's domain name (http://rtmark.com/etoy.html). Many activists hailed this triumph--lately punctuated by the announcement of eToys' looming bankruptcy--as a lesson to other corporations that might consider taking what is not rightfully theirs. When Autodesk suddenly relented from a similar attack, many felt the lesson had been well learned (http://rtmark.com/autodesk.html). But unfortunately, corporations do not learn lessons that are not written in law. Many of the entities that were fighting for their lives last December 29 have been forced out of existence by their predators, even before eToys; a few others are still fighting, at ever growing expense (Healthnet.org, Leonardo Magazine, etc.); and dozens of new cases have been brought to RTMark's attention. In these days of privatized education, it should perhaps come as no surprise that some of the new attacks are against children: Warner Brothers, for example, is going after a fifteen-year-old girl for her Harry Potter fan site, and Ferrero, which makes "Kinder Surprise" chocolate eggs, is attempting to hijack the domain of an Austrian children's charity ("Kinder" means "children" in German). "Public outrage without legal backup isn't enough," said Rita Mae Rakoczi, lawyer and RTMark spokesperson. "eToys was beaten outside the courtroom, but as a result nothing was written in stone, and companies know they can still get away with this sort of behavior--not to mention much worse. The only solution is to pass laws protecting people from corporate assault, and to rescind laws doing the opposite." See http://rtmark.com/netabuse.html for more on these cases and others. ON THE HORIZON To recover from these indications of colossal failure--which would portend doom for less well-anchored startups--an exciting array of cultural treats is in store for 2001. * One German project (http://www.deportation-alliance.com/lh/english.html) has already forced a major airline into reconsidering its lucrative but horrible transportation practices; this project is being adapted to the U.S. market with RTMark's help, and public participation will be requested at some point within the first quarter. * Given the different impacts of corporate abuse in different parts of the world, RTMark will be developing its first full-fledged regional mutual funds in 2001. The first will focus on France, whose population has resisted the push of globalization in unique ways--including by not learning English. The fund will be accompanied by a nearly complete translation of RTMark.com into French, and will be unveiled within the first quarter by its celebrity manager. * RTMark's communication infrastructure will be overhauled in the first and second quarters. Subscribers will be able to choose from a menu of regular updates--on project additions, new investments in particular projects or funds, developments in specific areas of interest, etc. Also, an online payment system will be made available to facilitate small investments in projects and funds. Of course, in the cultural-profit as in the financial-profit sector, there is no predicting what new actions may prove necessary in order to push the bottom line in 2001. CORPORATE POETRY BREAKTHROUGHS Last but not least, Andrei Codrescu has announced the co-winners of this year's Corporate Poetry Contest (http://rtmark.com/corpoetry.html): Amazon.com in correspondence with Daniel Arp, and three managers overheard by temp worker Missy Chimovitz. An excerpt from one of the latter: You can play it two sides to the middle... I really want to know your thoughts-- I'm game to making some internal adjustments, Because I really want to wrap my arms around this thing. Suggestions for prizes to be sent to the hapless winners are currently being solicited. RTMark's primary goal is to publicize corporate subversion of the democratic process. To this end it acts as a clearinghouse for anti- corporate projects. # 30 # This message is not commercial. Get off our list by writing mailto:remove@rtmark.com?subject=lizvlx@chello.at. If you are receiving multiple copies of this release and would prefer to receive only one, remove as above all address versions but one. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:11:59 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from software.com ([195.34.134.75]) by viemta08.chello.at (InterMail vK.4.03.01.00 201-232-122 license ebf0a47c661ab20c3c850a43b904d399) with SMTP id <20001225225212.LSCC4758.viemta08@software.com> for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 23:52:12 +0100 Received: from rtmark.com ([209.14.134.60]) by viemta02.chello.at (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 9caa03a7df1d31c048ffcc0d31ac5855) with ESMTP id <20001105051115.PNHJ10286.viemta02@rtmark.com> for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 06:11:15 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by rtmark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03146; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 23:23:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 23:23:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200011050423.XAA03146@rtmark.com> To: Potential Voter From: RTMark Subject: Corporate vote-buying OK, satire not OK. Does lizvlx@chello.at agree? 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November 5, 2000 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE VOTEAUCTION SATIRE ILLEGALLY SQUELCHED, WILL RE-OPEN IN HUNDREDS OF PLACES RTMark.com reveals its role, offers cash to the first person who can redirect the domain of a major candidate's website to http://62.116.31.68 Contact: Voteauction: mailto:pr@[62.116.31.68] http://62.116.31.68 Bill Jones: (916) 653-7244 ICANN: mailto:icann@icann.org Andy Mueller-Maguhn: mailto:andy@ccc.de Domain Bank: mailto:shemphill@domainbank.net Network Solutions: mailto:cregan@netsol.com RTMark: mailto:voteauction@rtmark.com http://rtmark.com/voteauction.html http://rtmark.com/etoynsi.html Voteauction, the satirical website which bills itself as "the only election platform channelling 'soft money' directly to the democracy consumer," has fallen victim to a heavy-handed and sometimes illegal campaign against free speech by two corporations and several public officials. On November 1, Network Solutions (the private for-profit corporation in charge of all .com, .net, and .org domains) shut down Vote-auction.com without warning or explanation, shortly after public attacks by the California Secretary of State, and after the Chicago Board of Elections filed an election fraud lawsuit against the domain. Neither the owners nor the service providers received any notification or warning of the shutdown, and Network Solutions has refused to comment on the issue. (See http://rtmark.com/etoynsi.html for an earlier example of illegal and still unexplained acts by the company.) California Secretary of State Bill Jones seems to have set the stage for this blatant disregard of Constitutional free speech protections by stating last week on CNN that corporate financing of elections is one subject that cannot be discussed: "whether this is a parody... makes absolutely no difference whatsoever in California... because you are talking about the corruption of the voting process." (http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram) RTMark sponsored Voteauction.com in June (project VOTE, listed at http://rtmark.com/featured.html#VOTE) precisely because the satirical site helps highlight the ways corporations already effectively purchase votes. As law professor Jamin Raskin said about Voteauction, "...we have now evolved a system in which it's OK for money to buy elections, and yet we somehow cling to the fantasy that there's something deeply immoral about the purchase of an individual vote." (http://www.wirednews.com/news/politics/0,1283,38559,00.html) RTMark and many others believe that if U.S. authorities such as Bill Jones wish to purge the election process of corruption, they should start by preventing corporations from spending unlimited sums on electing particular candidates, not by stopping a satire that highlights the problem. As one commentator wrote, "few would disagree that the problem with money in politics today is the hundreds of millions of dollars at the top, not a few dollars at the bottom. Which is why the short-lived vote sale should be seen less as a serious act of sabotage and more as guerrilla theater." (http://slate.msn.com/netelection/entries/00-08-23_88646.asp) Network Solutions' illegal deletion of the Vote-auction.com domain is just the latest blow in a series of actions that have closed the satirical website three times since it opened in August. 1: In August, Voteauction.com founder James Baumgartner, a graduate student, was told by New York State Board of Elections officials that they would press charges against him; they even implied that he could be guilty of treason, which is punishable by execution. Baumgartner, faced with what amounted to an official state-sponsored death threat, had little choice but to close the site on August 18, at which point RTMark helped transfer the domain to its current Austrian owner, Hans Bernhard, who immediately re-opened Voteauction.com with new features. 2. On October 21, Domain Bank, the U.S. company with which Voteauction.com had been registered, illegally froze the domain. Bernhard responded by registering Vote-auction.com (with an added hyphen) with a company located outside U.S. jurisdiction. 3: On November 1, to circumvent this approach, Network Solutions, without warning and in clear violation of international law, removed Vote-auction.com from its root servers (the computers that provide domain information to all others). It is unknown who requested this action, and under what authority Network Solutions feels justified in performing it. Andy Mueller-Maguhn, a newly-elected director of ICANN, the non-profit corporation responsible for all internet domains, agreed this was an illegal move and said "I guess we will have to do something about this." In response to Network Solution's attack, the Voteauction team has begun gathering Vote-auction and Voteauction domains around the world and is calling on other domain owners to point their domains or sub-domains to http://62.116.31.68, the Voteauction IP (IP addresses are not dependent on domain name registrars or on Internic). If you have a domain or sub-domain that you can point to http://62.116.31.68, please do so and forward the information to mailto:pr@[62.116.31.68] to be added to a list of supporters. In addition, RTMark has secured a $500 investment, of which $300 will be offered to the first person who can redirect the domain of a major US political candidate (for federal or state office) to http://62.116.31.68. The remaining $200 will be offered to the first person to re-route the domain of a major media outlet covering the elections to the Voteauction IP. RTMark's primary goal is to publicize corporate subversion of the democratic process. 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:02 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 85943 invoked by uid 4004); 9 Feb 2001 13:55:48 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 85940 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 13:55:48 -0000 Received: from mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (24.192.1.29) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 13:55:48 -0000 Received: from fail.antimedia.net (CPE-144-132-110-49.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.110.49]) by mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12151 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:57:36 +1100 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010209222720.029accb0@antimedia.net> X-Sender: karen@antimedia.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:58:14 +1100 To: lizvlx From: ke Subject: Re: voteauction.cx = 62.116.31.68 In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010204140445.0292a0b0@mail.paradigm4.com.au> <5.0.2.1.2.20010204140445.0292a0b0@mail.paradigm4.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 hi liz, your dns doesnt seem to be set up correctly regs karen $nslookup voteauction.cx ns1.sil.at Server: ns1.sil.at Address: 194.152.178.1 *** ns1.sil.at can't find voteauction.cx: Non-existent host/domain At 04:24 PM 04/02/01 +0100, you wrote: >thats's > >NS1.SIL.AT 194.152.178.1 >NS2.SIL.AT 194.152.178.10 > >best >liz > >>i'll need the dns details >>cheers >>karen >>--- lizvlx wrote: >>> the entries are all set up. >>> thanx >>> liz >>> > > >. . . . . . . . . . . : ::ubermorgen.com:: : . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. .if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere!. . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. >. >. >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > uberDISCLAIMER 01 :: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. .the contents of this email, and any attachments, are . . >. .CONFIDENTIAL and intended only for the person[s] to whom. . >. .they are addressed:: if you have received the email in. . . >. .error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it . >. .from your computer system:: do not copy or distribute it. . >. .or disclose its contents to any person:: unless otherwise . >. .stated, the views and opinions expressed in this email are. >. .personal to the sender and do not represent the official. . >. .view of the company :: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:06 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 61344 invoked by uid 4004); 4 Feb 2001 03:11:16 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 61341 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 03:11:14 -0000 Received: from mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (24.192.1.29) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 03:11:14 -0000 Received: from fail.antimedia.net (CPE-144-132-110-49.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.110.49]) by mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03026; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:11:21 +1100 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010204140445.0292a0b0@mail.paradigm4.com.au> X-Sender: karen@antimedia.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:11:52 +1100 To: aaron@lo-res.org, lizvlx From: ke Subject: Re: voteauction.cx = 62.116.31.68 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 i'll need the dns details cheers karen --- lizvlx wrote: > the entries are all set up. > thanx > liz > From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:12 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 64934 invoked by uid 4004); 5 Feb 2001 01:38:28 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 64931 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 01:38:26 -0000 Received: from mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (24.192.1.29) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 01:38:26 -0000 Received: from fail.antimedia.net (CPE-144-132-110-49.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.110.49]) by mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06421 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:39:35 +1100 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010205123044.02919c48@antimedia.net> X-Sender: karen@antimedia.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:40:03 +1100 To: lizvlx From: ke Subject: Re: voteauction.cx = 62.116.31.68 In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010204140445.0292a0b0@mail.paradigm4.com.au> <5.0.2.1.2.20010204140445.0292a0b0@mail.paradigm4.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 that's done best of luck karen At 04:24 PM 04/02/01 +0100, you wrote: >thats's > >NS1.SIL.AT 194.152.178.1 >NS2.SIL.AT 194.152.178.10 > >best >liz > >>i'll need the dns details >>cheers >>karen >>--- lizvlx wrote: >>> the entries are all set up. >>> thanx >>> liz >>> > > >. . . . . . . . . . . : ::ubermorgen.com:: : . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. .if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere!. . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. >. >. >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > uberDISCLAIMER 01 :: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. .the contents of this email, and any attachments, are . . >. .CONFIDENTIAL and intended only for the person[s] to whom. . >. .they are addressed:: if you have received the email in. . . >. .error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it . >. .from your computer system:: do not copy or distribute it. . >. .or disclose its contents to any person:: unless otherwise . >. .stated, the views and opinions expressed in this email are. >. .personal to the sender and do not represent the official. . >. .view of the company :: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:19 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 63204 invoked by uid 4004); 4 Feb 2001 16:20:32 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 63200 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 16:20:28 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (212.186.130.182) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 16:20:28 -0000 X-Sender: play@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010131163703.01917bf8@rhizome.org> References: <4.2.0.58.20010131163703.01917bf8@rhizome.org> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:21:38 +0100 To: Jennifer Crowe From: net_CALLBOY Subject: Re: Art Object Submission--[V]ote-auction Cc: liz@ubermorgen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 >Ubermorgen, hi j >Excellent project! thx; >This may be a silly question, but can you tell me more about why >this is Artbase material? Why do you consider Voteauction.com to be >an example of an online aesthetic practice? actually i should not answer that, cause if its not clear&logic for rhizome then you just better leave it out... you claim to be part of the curators of this new stuff; so identify the quality or someone else will... .... its plain and pure euro-us MEDIA HACKING at its best, beautiful and hard, sexy and pervert.. just the way we love it and do it.., actually we see it as the first universal '""digital legal art"" example.. more to follow.. etoy is a nice copy-cat, doing their now active attack vs eToys; hehehe... ;) [V]ote-auction // ubermorgen / james baumgartner / RTMark // has laid the grounds for this new and strong movement.. greeetZZZ hans-extrem /etoy.HANS ubermorgen >Thanks! > >Jennifer > >At 12:54 PM 1/31/2001 -0500, you wrote: >>Name: hans extrem >>Email: play@ubermorgen.com >> >>Artist Name: ubermorgen and j. baumgartner >>Title: [V]ote-auction >>URL: http://www.vote-auction.net >>Description: [ ] BRINGING CAPITALISM AND DEMOCRAZY CLOSER TOGETHER [ ] >> >> >>+ + + >> >>Approve: http://rhizome.org/cgi-secure/obj-status.rhiz?approve=2203 >> >>Reject: http://rhizome.org/cgi-secure/obj-status.rhiz?reject=2203 -- : :ubermorgen.com:: : .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .mob +43-676-9300061.. . . .ema hans@ubermorgen.com. . . . . . .fax +43-1-9681022. .. . . .icq 38302022 . . . . . . . . . . . .mob +49-175-2066954.. . . .pgp 0xBA42D1B7 . . . . . . . . . . .handle: HB13447-RIPE. . . .www.keyserver.net. . . . . . . . . .if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere!. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . featureZ:: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://62.116.31.68 [V]ote-auction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .uberDISCLAIMER 01 :: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .the contents of this email, and any attachments, are ---. . . .CONFIDENTIAL and intended only for the person[s] to whom. . . .they are addressed:: if you have received the email in. . . . .error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it . . .from your computer system:: do not copy or distribute it. . . .or disclose its contents to any person:: unless otherwise . . .stated, the views and opinions expressed in this email are. . .personal to the sender and do not represent the official. . . .view of the company :: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:22 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43563 invoked by uid 4004); 31 Jan 2001 14:18:55 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43560 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 14:18:55 -0000 Received: from web9108.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.128.245) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 14:18:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20010131141948.63168.qmail@web9108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.9.128.140] by web9108.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:19:48 PST Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:19:48 -0800 (PST) From: Karen Eliot Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: voteauction.cx = 62.116.31.68 To: lizvlx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 when ready please email me at karen@antimedia.net , karen --- lizvlx wrote: > hi aaron > > can ya do the dns entries for voteauction.cx? > > pls,thanx,best > liz > > > > > > hi > > > > > > the election's all over now, > > > > > > but maybe you can still use > > > > > > www.voteauction.cx = www.vote-auction.cx = 62.116.31.68 > > > > > > if you want to set up yr dns i will redirect them > > > > > > congratulations on another great stunt > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > karen > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . : ::ubermorgen.com:: : . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . .if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere!. . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . > . > . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > uberDISCLAIMER 01 :: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . .the contents of this email, and any attachments, are . . > . .CONFIDENTIAL and intended only for the person[s] to whom. . > . .they are addressed:: if you have received the email in. . . > . .error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it . > . .from your computer system:: do not copy or distribute it. . > . .or disclose its contents to any person:: unless otherwise . > . .stated, the views and opinions expressed in this email are. > . .personal to the sender and do not represent the official. . > . .view of the company :: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:23 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 76425 invoked by uid 4004); 20 Jan 2001 14:25:33 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 76420 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2001 14:25:33 -0000 Received: from www.rtmark.com (HELO rtmark.com) (root@209.227.54.59) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2001 14:25:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by rtmark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14783; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:58:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:58:57 -0500 (EST) From: RTMark admin To: Karen Eliot cc: hans@ubermorgen.com, liz@ubermorgen.com Subject: Re: voteauction.cx = 62.116.31.68 In-Reply-To: <20010120140639.56912.qmail@web9108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 hi karen thanks!! i pass this along to the voteauction authorities, whose stunt it really was--maybe they can still use this. cheers ray http://rtmark.com/ Turning information resources into emotional capital. On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Karen Eliot wrote: > hi (ray?) > > the election's all over now, > > but maybe you can still use > > www.voteauction.cx = www.vote-auction.cx = 62.116.31.68 > > if you want to set up yr dns i will redirect them > > congratulations on another great stunt > > best regards > > karen > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:24 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 61125 invoked by uid 4004); 4 Nov 2000 20:06:38 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.org Received: (qmail 61122 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2000 20:06:38 -0000 Received: from www35.gmx.net (213.165.64.85) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2000 20:06:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20786 invoked by uid 0); 4 Nov 2000 20:06:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 21:06:55 +0100 (MET) From: Iliya Czycykowski To: Brian_Krebs@newsbytes.com Cc: liz@ubermorgen.org Subject: Re: story questions X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000325796@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [62.96.169.157] Message-ID: <20762.973368415@www35.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 Dear Mr Krebs, it seems that my email is not getting through at the moment, hence I send this to you on a different route. You might get this message twice, sorry for the inconvenience. Regards Iliya Nickelt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski To: Brian Krebs Cc: liz@ubermorgen.org Subject: Re: story questions Dear Mr Krebs, actually *I* am not the really the victim here. I just happened to talk to one of the creators of voteauction.com in an open discussion here in Berlin shortly after they realized what had happened (as no official had told them). I thought it was a very interesting new move to stop the site. I am personally willing to believe that NSI/verisign is significantly biased towards accepting US court orders very quickly because of the geographic location of the company. According to my knowledge this is the first time something like this happened in this constellation although I admid that the legal background is complex. I am not affiliated to voteauction.com in any way, please write to liz@ubermorgen.org (also the cc), to contact them. Actually, I also was not entirely certain about the mentioning of "internic" as being responsible, but I quoted the press release on voteauction's website to avoid confusion. I enjoyed reading your very sound and interesting article and are glad that you managed without me! Best regards Iliya Nickelt (who should read his mail more often on weekends) Am 03.11.00 schrieb Brian Krebs: > To: Mr. Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski > > Dear Sir, > > I'm a reporter for The Washington Post's Newsbytes.com, and I'm working on > a story about your > fiasco there w/ Internic. I had a few questions I was hoping you could > clarify. > > You say Internic yanked your site, but Internic is for all intents and > purposes dead. If anyone, > it was NSI (Network Solutions). My reading on the situation was that the > NSI's parent didn't > have a choice after a court ordered the corporation to shut the site down > b/c it was clearly > in violation of state (possible federal) law. > > However, your latest message to Declan et. al. seems to indicate you feel > like the victim here, > or that NSI or whomever has done something wrong or perhaps engaged in > censorship. > Please tell me if I have mischaracterized your views on this subject, and > correct me where you > think I'm mistaken. > > Thanks for your time on this. I have to have this story in by 5:30 EST, > just about 1.5 hours from now. > IF you could find a way to get back to me before then, I'd be most > grateful. I realize we are on very > different time schedules, tho. > > Thanks for your help. > > Brian Krebs > Newsbytes.com > 703-465-4400 > -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:24 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 61064 invoked by uid 4004); 4 Nov 2000 19:45:45 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.org Received: (qmail 61061 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2000 19:45:45 -0000 Received: from ws-ber1.win-ip.dfn.de (193.174.75.142) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2000 19:45:45 -0000 Received: from aip.de (marlowe.aip.de [141.33.160.1]) by ws-ber1.win-ip.dfn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA26250 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:46:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from umbra.aip.de by marlowe (4.1/SMI-4.2-apr170795) id AA21255; Sat, 4 Nov 00 20:46:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (iliya@localhost) by umbra.aip.de with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.1) id UAA03499 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:46:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:46:26 +0100 (MET) From: Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski To: liz@ubermorgen.org Subject: FYI: vote-auction.com deleted from DNS (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 Liebe Liz, nach deiner Vorstellung am Mittwoch hatte ich diese Mail an Declan McCullagh (kennst du vielleicht auch) geschrieben, und das hatte offenbar gewissen Erfolg! (http://www.newsbytes.com/news/00/157696.html) Da ich die Antwort auf den Reporter dir als cc geschickt habe, hier auch mein originaler Brief FYI. Sieht es so aus als waere ich Teil von voteauction.com? Eigentlich nicht, oder? Ich fliege naechste Woche in die USA, *schluck* cheers, --iliya (= sass links von dir auf der Bank) -- | Iliya Nickelt | | Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam | | Telegrafenberg, 14473 Potsdam | | Tel. +49 331-288 2308 (Fax 2310) | ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:45:39 +0100 (MET) From: Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski To: Declan McCullagh Subject: vote-auction.com deleted from DNS Dear Declan, the conflict with vote-auction.com has reached a new level. Internic deleted its DNS entry on November 1st, after the domain was registered and hosted by an European registry service and was out of reach for US law. You can still reach it at http://62.116.31.68/, and you can read their press release there. A number of other domains (www.voteauction.at, www.voteauction.de, www.voteauction.cu, www.voteauction.ru, www.vote-auction.net, www.vote-auction.org) should be up soon. No matter what you think about it, wether you see it as an political satire or take it seriously (the makers don't), it is interesting to see that .com is obviously ruled by US law. Maybe .eu is a better idea than I originally thought. Regards, Iliya Nickelt -- | Iliya Nickelt | | Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam | | Telegrafenberg, 14473 Potsdam | | Tel. +49 331-288 2308 (Fax 2310) | From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:25 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 98310 invoked by uid 4004); 7 Nov 2000 20:25:48 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 98254 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 20:22:40 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (@212.186.130.182) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 20:22:40 -0000 X-Sender: mailhans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:23:50 +0100 To: mkanders@javanet.com From: net_CALLBOY Subject: fyi: vote-auction: Fwd: For Luzius Bernhard Court Order to Shut Down with Attachment - Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 hi mark as promised, fyi.. mass. suit.. more selected stuff to follow via fax.. hans ubermorgen.com ipnic.org voteauction.enemy.org >Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com >Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com >X-Lotus-FromDomain: MASS_AG >From: Maite.Parsi@ago.state.ma.us >To: hans@ubermorgen.com >Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:09:06 -0500 >Subject: For Luzius Bernhard Court Order to Shut Down with Attachment - > > > >Disregard prior message without attachment >---------------------- Forwarded by Maite Parsi/AGO/STATE/MASS/US on >11/06/2000 >04:57 PM --------------------------- > > >Maite Parsi >11/06/2000 04:48 PM > >To: pr@62.116.31.68 >cc: > >Subject: Court Order to Shut Down with Attachment > >The attachment did not go through with the first message. This is the secon= d >try. Please see below. (See attached file: Order.doc) >---------------------- Forwarded by Maite Parsi/AGO/STATE/MASS/US on >11/06/2000 >04:44 PM --------------------------- > > >Maite Parsi >11/06/2000 04:46 PM > >To: pr@62.116.31.68 >cc: > >Subject: Court Order to Shut Down > > To: Luzius Bernhard > > Please note that the attached Order was executed by the Hon. Maria >Lopez, Justice of the Superior Court in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. = It >is saved in "Word" format. > > The order states, in pertinent part that: > >" the Court finds, rules, and orders the following: > > Defendants Hans Bernhard, Luzius A. Bernhard, Silverserver and Oskar >Obereder, their respective agents, servants, employees, and attorneys, all >persons in concert or participation with them, and all persons with notice = of >the Court > >'s preliminary injunction, ARE HEREBY ENJOINED AND RESTRAINED from >directly or indirectly > > 1. Using or operating any Internet Web site that solicits, >aids or allows >residents of Massachusetts to sell their votes to be cast at the November 7= , >2000 General Election. > > 2. Using, operating, facilitating or accessing the domain name >"Vote-Auction.com" or any domain name or Web site with the same purpose and >goals. > > 3. Failing to remove such Web site from the Internet completely or,= in >the alternative, failing to modify the Internet Web site known as >Vote-Auction.com or any domain name with the same purpose and goals so as t= o >indicate that selling, buying or bidding on votes is not valid in the >Commonwealth of Massachusetts. > > 4. Allowing or continuing registration of the Internet domain name >"Vote-Auction.com" or any other domain name offering substantially the same >service as Vote-Auction.com. > > 5. Using or operating in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts=20 >any Internet >Web site by any name in any manner that would violate prohibitions in the l= aws >of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts against the buying of votes in electio= ns, >including, but not limited to, violations of G.L.c. 56 =A732 and G.L. 56 = =A725. > > 6. Accepting from residents of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts an= y >registration or offer to sell votes or to buy votes at auction through >Vote-Auction.com or any other Web site or domain name offering >substantially the >same services as Vote-Auction.com. > > 7. Failing to modify their Web site to indicate that all >registrations or >offers to sell votes and/or buy votes from Massachusetts residents will be >denied. > > 8. Directly or indirectly paying, giving, or promising to a >Massachusetts >voter any gift or reward to influence his vote or to induce him to >withhold his >or her vote." > > This order became effective immediately. > >Commonwealth of Massachusetts >By its attorneys > >Thomas F. Reilly, Attorney General > >Maite A. 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:25 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 58105 invoked by uid 4004); 4 Nov 2000 11:34:49 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 58102 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2000 11:34:49 -0000 Received: from mail.nrw.net (194.245.99.4) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2000 11:34:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 17120 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2000 11:38:09 -0000 Received: from csl12.csl-gmbh.net ([194.245.99.12], HELO csl12) by nrw.net with SMTP for (origin: ); 04 Nov 2000 11:38:09 +0000 From: "JOKER-TEAM" Organization: CSL GmbH To: "Chris J. Mutter" , liz@ubermorgen.com Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:36:36 +0100 Subject: Re: frage zu >>vote-auction.com<< Reply-to: billing@joker.com CC: secretariat@corenic.org X-Confirm-Reading-To: billing@joker.com X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200011021445.PAA22362@terminal.sil.at> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 Sehr geehrter Herr Mutter, bezueglich Ihrer Anfrage kann ich Ihnen folgendes mitteilen: 1.) CSL bzw Joker.com registriert com - net - org domains ueber CORE (www.corenic.org). 2.) CORE ist am 26. Oktober 2000, per email von einem Rechtsanwaltbuero in den USA ( James M. Scanlon & Associates, P.C. ) email:jscanlon@ameritech.net aufgefordert worden die domain "vote-auction.com" zu sperren, unter berufung auf eine "preliminary injunction order" des "Circuit Court of Cook County" in Chicago, Illinois USA vom 18. Oktober 2000 bezueglich "voteauction.com" was nach meinem Verstaendniss einer einstweiligen Verfuegung entspricht. 3.) CORE (nicht CSL) hat sich, nach Ruecksprache mit einem schweizer Rechtsanwalt entschlossen den Status der Domain am Abend des 31. Oktober 2000 auf "REGISTRAR-HOLD" zu setzen. Dies hat zur folge dass die Nameserver der Domain nicht mehr in der "root" erscheinen, damit ist rein technisch die Nichterreichbarkeit von allen sub-domains, also auch www.vote-auction.com, erklaert. 4.) Inzwischen ist CSL vom State of Wisconsin angeklagt. Wir werden entsprechend reagieren. 5.) Ich erlaube mir hier festzuhalten, dass diese Aktionen gegen den Willen und Rat von CSL GmbH, in alleiniger Verantwortung von CORE durchgefuehrt worden sind. -- ____________________________________________________ MfG = Regards http://www.nrw.net Voice +49 211 86767 21 Siegfried Langenbach CSL GmbH Fax +49 211 86767 10 ____________________________________________________ 0100,0100,0100On 2 Nov 00, at 15:45, Chris J. Mutter wrote: 7F00,0000,0000> S.g. Joker.com, > > Ein benutzer von SILVER:SERVER hat ueber joker.com die domain > >>vote-auction.com<<<< registriert welche wir technis (DNS) betreuen. > > Seit gestern mittag funktioniert diese domain nicht mehr. koennten > sie mir bitte info schicken wieso das der fall ist? > > mfg, > cjm silverserver hostmaster > -- > SILVER SERVER \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\ \\ \ > cjm@sil.at, cjm@enemy.org, neo@bsdger.org www.sil.at | www.enemy.org > ** PGP-Key-ID: 0xA941452D | "Why are we hiding from the police, dad?" - > --------------------------| "Because we use vi, son. They use Emacs". > > From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:26 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 98339 invoked by uid 4004); 7 Nov 2000 20:26:05 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 98334 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 20:26:03 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (@212.186.130.182) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 20:26:03 -0000 X-Sender: mailhans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A05FC70.C63778B4@merz-akademie.de> References: <3A057DA6.2E81950D@merz-akademie.de> <3A058CC8.3C6BE731@merz-akademie.de> <3A05FC70.C63778B4@merz-akademie.de> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:25:18 +0100 To: Alvar Freude From: net_CALLBOY Subject: Re: va, mirror Cc: liz@ubermorgen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 >Hi, hi na, das ist die verdammte scheisse mit den neuen registrar-systemen. die publizieren nicht mehr alles, d.h. der status production kann verschiedenes heissen, in unserem fall haben sie die kohle zwar kassiert, aber die domains gar nie freigeschalten! hans > > yup, na, internic haben wir angegeben.. nicht >> ganz richtig, stimmt aber schon, da internic >> im endeffekt die root-files kontrolliert.. > >yo! > > >> wir wussten zu der zeit noch nichts genaues und >> mussten aber press.release raushauen,, chaos ist >> king! > >verstähe -- kenn ich irgendwoher ... > > >> >> .net und .org sind registriert.. funken aber irgendwie >> >> no net.. >> > >> >wohl auch gesperrt worden ... :-( >> >> moeglich.. werds morgen mal abchecken, eingetragen >> sind sie eigentlich.. > >also, hmmm: > >Domaingrabber: > http://www.voteauction.net/ > http://www.voteauction.org/ > http://www.voteauction.de/ > http://www.vote-auction.de/ > >belegt, mit was? > http://www.voteauction.ru/ > >frei? > http://www.vote-auction.ru/ > > >korrekt belegt durch Dich: > http://www.vote-auction.com/ > http://www.vote-auction.org/ > http://www.vote-auction.net/ > > >Also, da ist irgendwas faul! > >denn der Whois beim Corenic gibt korrekt Dich aus: > > > === SCHNIPP === > >$ whois vote-auction.com@whois.corenic.net >[whois.corenic.net] > Luzius A. Bernhard (template COCO-781664) > hans@ubermorgen.com > Kurrentgasse 10-22 > Vienna, Austria 1010 AT > > Domain Name: vote-auction.com > Status: production > > Admin Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: > Luzius A. Bernhard (COCO-781664) hans@ubermorgen.com > +43-676-9300061 > > CORE Registrar: CORE-11 > > Record last modified: 2000-10-20 03:15:03 MET by CORE-11 > Record created: 2000-10-18 15:37:55 MET by CORE-11 > > Domain servers in listed order: > > ns1.sil.at 194.152.178.1 > ns2.sil.at 194.152.178.10 > > Database last updated on 2000-11-06 01:03:01 MET > >To optimize query speed and answer correctness see the >--help option. Depending on your whois client use > whois -h whois.corenic.net HELP >or > whois HELP@whois.corenic.net > > === SCHNAPP === > > >Das gleiche kommt für .com, .net und .org > >Auch bei Networksolutions, sieht fast so aus als ob da auch alles OK >sei!?! > > >Auch beim Silver-Server ists OK .... > > === SCHNIPP === > >$ nslookup www.vote-auction.com 194.152.178.1 >Server: ns1.sil.at >Address: 194.152.178.1 > >Name: www.vote-auction.com >Address: 62.116.31.68 > > === SCHNAPP === > > >nur bei einem "normalen" Nameserver kommt "can't find >www.vote-auction.com: Non-existent host/domain" heraus. > >Sehr ominös! > >Ich frag mal in ein paar mailinglisten, vielleicht kennt sich da jemand >aus ... > >Ciao > Alvar -- . . . . . . . . . . . : ::ubermorgen.com:: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .mob +43-676-9300061. . . .ema hans@ubermorgen.com. . . . . . .fax +43-1-9681022. . . . .icq 38302022 . . . . . . . . . . . .mob +49-175-2066954 . . . .pgp 0xBA42D1B7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .www.keyserver.net. . . . . . .if you dont get help from us,please get help somewhere! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:27 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 65546 invoked by uid 4004); 5 Nov 2000 16:16:57 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 65541 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 16:16:54 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (212.186.130.182) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 16:16:54 -0000 X-Sender: mailhans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A057DA6.2E81950D@merz-akademie.de> References: <3A057DA6.2E81950D@merz-akademie.de> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:17:14 +0100 To: Alvar Freude From: net_CALLBOY Subject: Re: va, mirror Cc: aaron@meta.lo-res.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 >Hi Hans, hi a >lass Dich nicht unterkriegen von den Säcken! thx, werden wir sicherlich nicht.. >Versuche doch schnell die entsprechenden .net und .org-Domains zu holen, >über CORENIC, die sitzen in der Schweiz ;) wir haben via CSL in duesseldorf vote-auciton registriert, joker.com, corenic.org hat den DNS aber abgedreht, da sich CSL weigerte ohne deutsche einstweilige verfuegung dies zu tun. wir haben corenic bis montag 12h ultimatum gestellt, sonst klagen wir sie auf schaden und strafrechtl. ..net und .org sind registriert.. funken aber irgendwie no net.. nic.at, die oesterreichische domain stelle hat unsere voteauction.at verzoegert, oskar von SILVER SERVER hat sie persoenlich angemeldet, normalerweise innert 24h aktiv, nicht bei uns! haben kalte fuesse!!! denken wohl die amis wuerden ganz oesterreich abdrehen...hehehe.. >Soweit ich weiß können die von Networksolutions nicht gesperrt werden, >oder? na, es ist eben corenic der bastard, wobei internic auch mitmacht wenn corenic was aus den 12 root files draussen haben will >Ich hab den .org-Blaster und Online-Demo über die reserviert, via >http://www.global-village.de/ (bei denen klappt die Registrierung >ruck-zuck und die Domain ist ein paar Stunden später wirklich da!) kewl.. wir muessen jetzt die action intelligent auf dem "digital legal art" level halten, und gleiczeitig die wirklich mitterlweile brisante politische komponenten parallel spielen, rechtliche schritte, actions, etc... corenic ist im moment auf dem level der feind! wobei wirs jetzt fuer den 7. nov. richtig spielen muessen... >Wenn ich Dich irgendwie unterstützen kann, lass es mich wissen -- >Subdomains gehen leider nicht. Aber Mirror bzw. via Proxy wäre drin. ja, mirror waere extrem wichtig, bitte kurz mit aaron@meta.lo-res.org contact aufnehmen, er ist unser security experte und kuemmert sich um solche sachen... das waer top! danke fuer die unterstuetzung! greetz hans >Ciao > Alvar > >-- >Alvar C.H. 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:27 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 4824 invoked by uid 4004); 8 Nov 2000 03:17:53 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 4819 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2000 03:17:53 -0000 Received: from 73.ptr.merz-akademie.de (HELO student.merz-akademie.de) (195.226.105.73) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2000 03:17:53 -0000 Received: from merz-akademie.de (news.merz-akademie.de [195.226.105.70]) by student.merz-akademie.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23966; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:18:48 +0100 Message-ID: <3A08C6F3.85AA8A29@merz-akademie.de> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 04:22:27 +0100 From: Alvar Freude Organization: http://a-blast.org/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de To: net_CALLBOY CC: liz@ubermorgen.com Subject: Re: va, mirror References: <3A057DA6.2E81950D@merz-akademie.de> <3A058CC8.3C6BE731@merz-akademie.de> <3A05FC70.C63778B4@merz-akademie.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18 Hi hans, > na, das ist die verdammte scheisse mit den > neuen registrar-systemen. die publizieren > nicht mehr alles, d.h. der status production > kann verschiedenes heissen, in unserem fall > haben sie die kohle zwar kassiert, aber die > domains gar nie freigeschalten! aaah, OK. was macht die 'Klage' gegen corenic? ;-) Der Mirror geht übrigenz: http://www.a-blast.org/~voteauction/ :) Yo, Al Bundy liegt vorn, les ich grad. Na mal sehn was da wird! Ciao Alvar -- Alvar C.H. Freude | alvar.freude@merz-akademie.de Demo: http://www.online-demonstration.org/ | Mach mit! Blast-DE: http://www.assoziations-blaster.de/ | Blast-Dich-Fit Blast-EN: http://www.a-blast.org/ | Blast/english From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:28 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 19741 invoked by uid 4004); 10 Nov 2000 08:11:15 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 19737 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2000 08:11:14 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (@212.186.130.182) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2000 08:11:14 -0000 X-Sender: mailhans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <006e01c04aec$bcde0ca0$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> References: <006e01c04aec$bcde0ca0$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:12:46 +0100 To: "Levend Sener" From: net_CALLBOY Subject: Re: FW: ihr seid live geschalten Cc: liz@ubermorgen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 >Hallo, hi there na klar machma das, kommt gleich.. nur ein bisschen geduld und es ist schon done.. greetZ nach D hans_e > >könnt Ihr das: > >target="_blank">src="http://www.webstreme. >net/images/ws_va.gif" >lowsrc="http://www.webstreme.net" >alt="Webstreme - Home of the Web-Applications"> > >durch > >target="_blank">src="http://www.webstreme. >net/images/ws_va.gif" alt="Webstreme >- Home of the Web-Applications"> > >ersetzen ? > >In der alten (ersten) Form wird der Banner im Netscape Navigator >nicht korrekt angezeigt :-((( > >macht Ihr das noch ? >Danke ! > >Levend. -- . . . . . . . . . . . : ::ubermorgen.com:: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .mob +43-676-9300061. . . .ema hans@ubermorgen.com. . . . . . .fax +43-1-9681022. . . . .icq 38302022 . . . . . . . . . . . .mob +49-175-2066954 . . . .pgp 0xBA42D1B7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .www.keyserver.net. . . . . . .if you dont get help from us,please get help somewhere! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:30 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 98352 invoked by uid 4004); 7 Nov 2000 20:26:33 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 98344 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 20:26:14 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (@212.186.130.182) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 20:26:14 -0000 X-Sender: mailhans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001c01c048a5$4cf34930$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> References: <001c01c048a5$4cf34930$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:26:27 +0100 To: "Levend Sener" From: net_CALLBOY Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? Cc: liz@ubermorgen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 >Hallo Hans, > >da habe ich doch eine (naheliegende !) 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 21 kannst du das schnell machen, pls und ihm antworten, thx hans >Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com >Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com >From: "Levend Sener" >To: "'net_CALLBOY'" >Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:50:45 +0100 >X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >Importance: High > >Hallo Hans, > >anbei der (erste !) 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(@212.186.130.182) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 20:30:58 -0000 X-Sender: mailhans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000a01c0489c$6103a220$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> References: <000a01c0489c$6103a220$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:28:15 +0100 To: liz@ubermorgen.com, "Levend Sener" From: net_CALLBOY Subject: RE: ihr seid live geschalten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 22 >Hi, hi there da wir gestern/heute bis um 11h vormittags gearbeitet haben, weiss nicht ob schon ge- macht.. liz, hast du das schon gemacht? waer nett wenn done, wenn dus bitte levend kurz ok gibst, damit er keine troubles hat...; thx! hans >tut Ihr mir/uns (Think-Factory) einen ganz großen Gefallen ? >Entfernt Ihr alle Links/Meldungen über die TF und ersetzt sie durch mich >persönlich - "Levend Sener Softwaretechnik" ? >Ich bin zwar Mitgesellschafter der Think-Factory, allerdings möchte mein >Partner ungerne in die Publicity um Vote-Auction mit hineingezogen werden - >ich bin aber dabei !! ;-) > >Das Think-Factory-Banner ersetze ich durch ein anderes, (mein) eigenes ... > >Danke, >Levend Sener > >PS: Bitte um kurze Bestätigung ... :-)) > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lizvlx [mailto:liz@ubermorgen.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 2:34 AM >> To: LSener@Think-Factory.de >> Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >> Subject: ihr seid live geschalten >> Importance: High >> >> >> danke nochmal! >> >> you are live. >> best >> lizvlx >> >> >> > >> >>Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com >> >>Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com >> >>From: "Levend Sener" >> >>To: "'net_CALLBOY'" >> >>Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:50:45 +0100 >> >>X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >> >>Importance: High >> >> >> >>Hallo Hans, >> >> >> >>anbei der (erste !) Entwurf für unser Banner ... >> >>Linkst Du dieses in Eure Site ein ? >> >> >> >>> >>target="_blank">> >>src="http://ww >> w.think-factory.de/images/TF_VA.gif" >> >>lowsrc="Think-Factory" alt="Think-Factory - make the complicated >> >>in IT simple and enjoyable" width="468" height="60"> >> >> >> >> >> >>Ich würde mich freuen, wenn Ihr die SRC absolut lasst, damit ich >> >>(von einem "anständigen" Designer !) einen schöneren Banner bekomme >> >>... >> >>Habe vorhin in der C't einen Artikel über Euch gelesen, drücke Euch >> >>die Daumen ... ;-) >> >> >> >>TIA, >> >>Levend. >> >> >> >>PS: Leite "voteauction.de" gleich auf Eure Site um ... >> >>PPS: Bitte um Bestätigung ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: net_CALLBOY >> [mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com] >> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:54 PM >> >>> To: Levend Sener >> >>> Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >Noch eine letzte Frage: _wo_ kommt der Banner dann hin ? >> >>> >> >>> auf index im frame unten, dort mit meta-refresh.. >> >>> greetz >> >>> hans >> >>> >> >>> >Gruß, >> >>> >Sener >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: net_CALLBOY >> >>>[mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com] >> >>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 4:05 PM >> >>> >> To: Levend Sener >> >>> >> Subject: Re: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>> >> Importance: High >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >Antwort an Absenderadresse hat nicht so recht geklappt ... >> >>> >> also an "Hans". >> >>> >> >> >>> >> hi there >> >>> >> >> >>> >> banner size 468x60, sobald wir den haben bauen >> >>> >> wir ihn ein, dann bitte va.de auf >> >>>http://62.116.31.68/ >> >>> >> linken, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> gruesse >> >>> >> hans >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >Original-Text siehe roten Bereich. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >> From: WEBSTREME-Webmaster >> >>> >> >> >>>>>[<mailto:webmaster@webstr >> eme.net>mailto:webmaster@webst >> reme.net] >> >>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 1:45 PM >> >>> >> >> To: 'PR [V]ote-auction.com' >> >>> >> >> Subject: RE: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>> >> >> Importance: High >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> Hallo, >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> welche Größe/Format usw. soll denn das Banner haben ? >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Grüße, >> >>> >> >> Sener. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >> > From: PR [V]ote-auction.com >> >>> >> >> [<mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >> >>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:16 AM >> >>> >> >> > To: Levend Sener >> >>> >> >> > Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >> >>> >> >> > Subject: Re: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>> >> >> > Importance: High >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > danke fuer die schelle antwort. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > das waer spitze mit dem forward, schick uns >> >>> >> >> > deinen banner, wir schalten ihn asap. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > best >> >>> >> >> > lizvlx >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >Hallo "Vote-Auction", >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > >den forward konnen wir einrichten ... >> >>> >> >> > >Als Gegenleistung sollte sich Bannerwerbung und >> >>> >> >> Namedropping in der >> >>> >> >> > >Presse einrichten lassen, oder ?! ;-)) >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > >Grüße, >> >>> >> >> > >Sener >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >> > >> From: PR [V]ote-auction.com >> >>> >> >> >> >>>[<<mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@><> R@>mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >> >>> >> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:33 AM >> >> > >> >> > >> To: pr@ubermorgen.com >> >>> >> >> > >> Subject: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:39 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 92058 invoked by uid 4004); 7 Nov 2000 13:01:30 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 92047 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 13:01:27 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (@212.186.130.182) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 13:01:27 -0000 X-Sender: mailhans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000a01c0489c$6103a220$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> References: <000a01c0489c$6103a220$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:02:30 +0100 To: "Levend Sener" From: net_CALLBOY Subject: RE: ihr seid live geschalten Cc: liz@ubermorgen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 23 >Hi, hi there >tut Ihr mir/uns (Think-Factory) einen ganz großen Gefallen ? >Entfernt Ihr alle Links/Meldungen über die TF und ersetzt sie durch mich >persönlich - "Levend Sener Softwaretechnik" ? >Ich bin zwar Mitgesellschafter der Think-Factory, allerdings möchte mein >Partner ungerne in die Publicity um Vote-Auction mit hineingezogen werden - >ich bin aber dabei !! ;-) kann ich machen, wobei der press.release schon draussen ist, ich kann einfach in der credits liste das aendern.. hans >Das Think-Factory-Banner ersetze ich durch ein anderes, (mein) eigenes ... > >Danke, >Levend Sener > >PS: Bitte um kurze Bestätigung ... :-)) > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lizvlx [mailto:liz@ubermorgen.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 2:34 AM >> To: LSener@Think-Factory.de >> Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >> Subject: ihr seid live geschalten >> Importance: High >> >> >> danke nochmal! >> >> you are live. >> best >> lizvlx >> >> >> > >> >>Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com >> >>Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com >> >>From: "Levend Sener" >> >>To: "'net_CALLBOY'" >> >>Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:50:45 +0100 >> >>X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >> >>Importance: High >> >> >> >>Hallo Hans, >> >> >> >>anbei der (erste !) Entwurf für unser Banner ... >> >>Linkst Du dieses in Eure Site ein ? >> >> >> >>> >>target="_blank">> >>src="http://ww >> w.think-factory.de/images/TF_VA.gif" >> >>lowsrc="Think-Factory" alt="Think-Factory - make the complicated >> >>in IT simple and enjoyable" width="468" height="60"> >> >> >> >> >> >>Ich würde mich freuen, wenn Ihr die SRC absolut lasst, damit ich >> >>(von einem "anständigen" Designer !) einen schöneren Banner bekomme >> >>... >> >>Habe vorhin in der C't einen Artikel über Euch gelesen, drücke Euch >> >>die Daumen ... ;-) >> >> >> >>TIA, >> >>Levend. >> >> >> >>PS: Leite "voteauction.de" gleich auf Eure Site um ... >> >>PPS: Bitte um Bestätigung ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: net_CALLBOY >> [mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com] >> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:54 PM >> >>> To: Levend Sener >> >>> Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >Noch eine letzte Frage: _wo_ kommt der Banner dann hin ? >> >>> >> >>> auf index im frame unten, dort mit meta-refresh.. >> >>> greetz >> >>> hans >> >>> >> >>> >Gruß, >> >>> >Sener >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: net_CALLBOY >> >>>[mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com] >> >>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 4:05 PM >> >>> >> To: Levend Sener >> >>> >> Subject: Re: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>> >> Importance: High >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >Antwort an Absenderadresse hat nicht so recht geklappt ... >> >>> >> also an "Hans". >> >>> >> >> >>> >> hi there >> >>> >> >> >>> >> banner size 468x60, sobald wir den haben bauen >> >>> >> wir ihn ein, dann bitte va.de auf >> >>>http://62.116.31.68/ >> >>> >> linken, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> gruesse >> >>> >> hans >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >Original-Text siehe roten Bereich. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >> From: WEBSTREME-Webmaster >> >>> >> >> >>>>>[<mailto:webmaster@webstr >> eme.net>mailto:webmaster@webst >> reme.net] >> >>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 1:45 PM >> >>> >> >> To: 'PR [V]ote-auction.com' >> >>> >> >> Subject: RE: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>> >> >> Importance: High >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Hallo, >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> welche Größe/Format usw. soll denn das Banner haben ? >> >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> Grüße, >> >>> >> >> Sener. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >> > From: PR [V]ote-auction.com >> >>> >> >> [<mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >> >>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:16 AM >> >>> >> >> > To: Levend Sener >> >>> >> >> > Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >> >>> >> >> > Subject: Re: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? >> >>> >> >> > Importance: High >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > danke fuer die schelle antwort. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > das waer spitze mit dem forward, schick uns >> >>> >> >> > deinen banner, wir schalten ihn asap. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > best >> >>> >> >> > lizvlx >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >Hallo "Vote-Auction", >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > >den forward konnen wir einrichten ... >> >>> >> >> > >Als Gegenleistung sollte sich Bannerwerbung und >> >>> >> >> Namedropping in der >> >>> >> >> > >Presse einrichten lassen, oder ?! ;-)) >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > >Grüße, >> >>> >> >> > >Sener >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >> > >> From: PR [V]ote-auction.com >> >>> >> >> >> >>>[<<mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@><> R@>mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >> >>> >> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:33 AM >> >> > >> >> > >> To: pr@ubermorgen.com >> >>> >> >> > >> Subject: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:46 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 817 invoked by uid 4004); 7 Nov 2000 22:16:11 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 803 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 22:16:05 -0000 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (195.20.224.149) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 22:16:05 -0000 Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13tH3V-0003HU-00; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:17:25 +0100 Received: from 80-151.f.dial.o-tel-o.net ([212.144.80.151] helo=tecra780) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13tH3F-00065H-00; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:17:09 +0100 Return-Receipt-To: "Levend Sener" From: "Levend Sener" To: "'net_CALLBOY'" , Subject: RE: ihr seid live geschalten Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:17:06 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c04908$77f90b70$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: High In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Disposition-Notification-To: "Levend Sener" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 24 RE: ihr seid live geschalten
Hallo Hans & alle anderen :-)

Sorry für die ganzen Störungen ... ist nicht absichtlich !

Ersetzt Ihr bitte den Think-Factory-Banner durch folgendes:

<a href="http://www.webstreme.net" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="http://www.webstreme.net/images/ws_va.gif" lowsrc="http://www.webstreme.net" alt="Webstreme - Home of the Web-Applications"></a>
 
Damit bin ich dann aufs vollste zufrieden ;-)
TIA,
Levend.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: net_CALLBOY [mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:28 PM
> To: liz@ubermorgen.com; Levend Sener
> Subject: RE: ihr seid live geschalten
> Importance: High
>
>
> >Hi,
>
> hi there
>
> da wir gestern/heute bis um 11h vormittags
> gearbeitet haben, weiss nicht ob schon ge-
> macht.. liz, hast du das schon gemacht? waer
> nett wenn done, wenn dus bitte levend kurz
> ok gibst, damit er keine troubles hat...;
>
> thx!
> hans
>
>
> >tut Ihr mir/uns (Think-Factory) einen ganz großen Gefallen ?
> >Entfernt Ihr alle Links/Meldungen über die TF und ersetzt
> sie durch mich
> >persönlich - "Levend Sener Softwaretechnik" ?
> >Ich bin zwar Mitgesellschafter der Think-Factory, allerdings
> möchte mein
> >Partner ungerne in die Publicity um Vote-Auction mit
> hineingezogen werden -
> >ich bin aber dabei !! ;-)
> >
> >Das Think-Factory-Banner ersetze ich durch ein anderes,
> (mein) eigenes ...
> >
> >Danke,
> >Levend Sener
> >
> >PS: Bitte um kurze Bestätigung ... :-))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  From: lizvlx [mailto:liz@ubermorgen.com]
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 2:34 AM
> >>  To: LSener@Think-Factory.de
> >>  Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com
> >>  Subject: ihr seid live geschalten
> >>  Importance: High
> >>
> >>
> >>  danke nochmal!
> >>
> >>  you are live.
> >>  best
> >>  lizvlx
> >>
> >>
> >>  >
> >>  >>Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
> >>  >>Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
> >>  >>From: "Levend Sener" <LSener@Think-Factory.de>
> >>  >>To: "'net_CALLBOY'" <hans@ubermorgen.com>
> >>  >>Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url?
> >>  >>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:50:45 +0100
> >>  >>X-Priority: 1 (Highest)
> >>  >>Importance: High
> >>  >>
> >>  >>Hallo Hans,
> >>  >>
> >>  >>anbei der (erste !) Entwurf für unser Banner ...
> >>  >>Linkst Du dieses in Eure Site ein ?
> >>  >>
> >>  >><a
> href="<http://www.think-factory.de>http://www.think-factory.de"
> >>  >>target="_blank"><img border="0"
> >>  >>src="<http://www.think-factory.de/images/TF_VA.gif>http://ww
> >>  w.think-factory.de/images/TF_VA.gif"
> >>  >>lowsrc="Think-Factory" alt="Think-Factory  -  make the
> complicated
> >>  >>in IT simple and enjoyable" width="468" height="60"></a>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>Ich würde mich freuen, wenn Ihr die SRC absolut lasst, damit ich
> >>  >>(von einem "anständigen" Designer !) einen schöneren
> Banner bekomme
> >>  >>...
> >>  >>Habe vorhin in der C't einen Artikel über Euch gelesen,
> drücke Euch
> >>  >>die Daumen ... ;-)
> >>  >>
> >>  >>TIA,
> >>  >>Levend.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>PS: Leite "voteauction.de" gleich auf Eure Site um ...
> >>  >>PPS: Bitte um Bestätigung ;-)
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  >>>  From: net_CALLBOY
> >>  [<mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com>mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com]
> >>  >>>  Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:54 PM
> >>  >>>  To: Levend Sener
> >>  >>>  Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url?
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>  >Noch eine letzte Frage: _wo_ kommt der Banner dann hin ?
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>  auf index im frame unten, dort mit meta-refresh..
> >>  >>>  greetz
> >>  >>>  hans
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>  >Gruß,
> >>  >>>  >Sener
> >>  >>>  >
> >>  >>>  >
> >>  >>>  >
> >>  >>>  >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  >>>  >>  From: net_CALLBOY
> >>  >>>[<mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com>mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com]
> >>  >>>  >>  Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 4:05 PM
> >>  >>>  >>  To: Levend Sener
> >>  >>>  >>  Subject: Re: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url?
> >>  >>>  >>  Importance: High
> >>  >>>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >Antwort an Absenderadresse hat nicht so recht
> geklappt ...
> >>  >>>  >>  also an "Hans".
> >>  >>>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  hi there
> >>  >>>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  banner size 468x60, sobald wir den haben bauen
> >>  >>>  >>  wir ihn ein, dann bitte va.de auf
> >>  >>><http://62.116.31.68/>http://62.116.31.68/
> >>  >>>  >>  linken,
> >>  >>>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  gruesse
> >>  >>>  >>  hans
> >>  >>>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >Original-Text siehe roten Bereich.
> >>  >>>  >>  >
> >>  >>>  >>  >
> >>  >>>  >>  >
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  From: WEBSTREME-Webmaster
> >>  >>>  >>
> >>  >>>>>[<<mailto:webmaster@webstreme.net>mailto:webmaster@webstr
> >>  eme.net><mailto:webmaster@webstreme.net>mailto:webmaster@webst
> >>  reme.net]
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 1:45 PM
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  To: 'PR [V]ote-auction.com'
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  Subject: RE: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url?
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  Importance: High
> >>  >>>  >>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>
> >  > >>>  >>  >>  Hallo,
> >>  >>>  >>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  welche Größe/Format usw. soll denn das Banner haben ?
> >>  >>>  >>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  Grüße,
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  Sener.
> >>  >>>  >>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > -----Original Message-----
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > From: PR [V]ote-auction.com
> >>  >>>  >>
> >>  [<<mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@><mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]]
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:16 AM
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > To: Levend Sener
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > Subject: Re: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url?
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > Importance: High
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  >
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  >
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  >   deinen banner, wir schalten ihn asap.
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  >   lizvlx
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  >
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >Hallo "Vote-Auction",
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >den forward konnen wir einrichten ...
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >Als Gegenleistung sollte sich Bannerwerbung und
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  Namedropping in der
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >Presse einrichten lassen, oder ?!  ;-))
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >Grüße,
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >Sener
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:33 AM
> >>  >>  > >>  >>  > >>  To: pr@ubermorgen.com
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>  Subject: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url?
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   dear voteauction
> >>  >>>  /vote-auction.com/.net/.org/... inhaber,
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   frage ist, bekommen  wir ein forward von
> >>  eurer domain
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>
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> >>  .31.68>http://62.116.31.68><<http://62.116.31>http://62.116.31.
> >>  >>>  >>  68><http://62.116.31.68>http://62.116.31.68
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>
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> >>  bannerplacing,
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   liebe gruesse,
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   lizvlx
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   [V]ote-auction.com
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   --------------------
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   dear voteauc tion
> >>  >>>  /vote-auction.com/.net/.org/... owner.
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   question is, will you provide us with
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> >>  banner-advertizing, mentioning
> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   in press releases etc..
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   best wishes,
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> >>  >>>  >>  >>  > >>   lizvlx
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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:49 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 89829 invoked by uid 4004); 7 Nov 2000 09:22:16 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 89823 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 09:22:15 -0000 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (195.20.224.149) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 09:22:15 -0000 Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13t4yY-0005WP-00; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:23:30 +0100 Received: from pd4b9e2d8.dip.t-dialin.net ([212.185.226.216] helo=tecra780) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13t4yU-0001Ol-00; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:23:26 +0100 Return-Receipt-To: "Levend Sener" From: "Levend Sener" To: "'lizvlx'" , "'net_CALLBOY'" Subject: RE: ihr seid live geschalten Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:23:23 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c0489c$6103a220$77e8b9d4@ThinkFactory.Office> X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: High In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Disposition-Notification-To: "Levend Sener" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 25 Hi, tut Ihr mir/uns (Think-Factory) einen ganz großen Gefallen ? Entfernt Ihr alle Links/Meldungen über die TF und ersetzt sie durch mich persönlich - "Levend Sener Softwaretechnik" ? Ich bin zwar Mitgesellschafter der Think-Factory, allerdings möchte mein Partner ungerne in die Publicity um Vote-Auction mit hineingezogen werden - ich bin aber dabei !! ;-) Das Think-Factory-Banner ersetze ich durch ein anderes, (mein) eigenes ... Danke, Levend Sener PS: Bitte um kurze Bestätigung ... :-)) > -----Original Message----- > From: lizvlx [mailto:liz@ubermorgen.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 2:34 AM > To: LSener@Think-Factory.de > Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com > Subject: ihr seid live geschalten > Importance: High > > > danke nochmal! > > you are live. > best > lizvlx > > > > > >>Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com > >>Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com > >>From: "Levend Sener" > >>To: "'net_CALLBOY'" > >>Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? > >>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:50:45 +0100 > >>X-Priority: 1 (Highest) > >>Importance: High > >> > >>Hallo Hans, > >> > >>anbei der (erste !) Entwurf für unser Banner ... > >>Linkst Du dieses in Eure Site ein ? > >> > >> >>target="_blank"> >>src="http://ww > w.think-factory.de/images/TF_VA.gif" > >>lowsrc="Think-Factory" alt="Think-Factory - make the complicated > >>in IT simple and enjoyable" width="468" height="60"> > >> > >> > >>Ich würde mich freuen, wenn Ihr die SRC absolut lasst, damit ich > >>(von einem "anständigen" Designer !) einen schöneren Banner bekomme > >>... > >>Habe vorhin in der C't einen Artikel über Euch gelesen, drücke Euch > >>die Daumen ... ;-) > >> > >>TIA, > >>Levend. > >> > >>PS: Leite "voteauction.de" gleich auf Eure Site um ... > >>PPS: Bitte um Bestätigung ;-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: net_CALLBOY > [mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com] > >>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:54 PM > >>> To: Levend Sener > >>> Subject: RE: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? > >>> > >>> > >>> >Noch eine letzte Frage: _wo_ kommt der Banner dann hin ? > >>> > >>> auf index im frame unten, dort mit meta-refresh.. > >>> greetz > >>> hans > >>> > >>> >Gruß, > >>> >Sener > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: net_CALLBOY > >>>[mailto:hans@ubermorgen.com] > >>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 4:05 PM > >>> >> To: Levend Sener > >>> >> Subject: Re: FW: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? > >>> >> Importance: High > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >Antwort an Absenderadresse hat nicht so recht geklappt ... > >>> >> also an "Hans". > >>> >> > >>> >> hi there > >>> >> > >>> >> banner size 468x60, sobald wir den haben bauen > >>> >> wir ihn ein, dann bitte va.de auf > >>>http://62.116.31.68/ > >>> >> linken, > >>> >> > >>> >> gruesse > >>> >> hans > >>> >> > >>> >> >Original-Text siehe roten Bereich. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> >> From: WEBSTREME-Webmaster > >>> >> > >>>>>[<mailto:webmaster@webstr > eme.net>mailto:webmaster@webst > reme.net] > >>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 1:45 PM > >>> >> >> To: 'PR [V]ote-auction.com' > >>> >> >> Subject: RE: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? > >>> >> >> Importance: High > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Hallo, > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> welche Größe/Format usw. soll denn das Banner haben ? > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Grüße, > >>> >> >> Sener. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >>> >> >> > From: PR [V]ote-auction.com > >>> >> > [<mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] > >>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:16 AM > >>> >> >> > To: Levend Sener > >>> >> >> > Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com > >>> >> >> > Subject: Re: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? > >>> >> >> > Importance: High > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > danke fuer die schelle antwort. > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > das waer spitze mit dem forward, schick uns > >>> >> >> > deinen banner, wir schalten ihn asap. > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > best > >>> >> >> > lizvlx > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > >Hallo "Vote-Auction", > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > >den forward konnen wir einrichten ... > >>> >> >> > >Als Gegenleistung sollte sich Bannerwerbung und > >>> >> >> Namedropping in der > >>> >> >> > >Presse einrichten lassen, oder ?! ;-)) > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > >Grüße, > >>> >> >> > >Sener > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> >> > >> From: PR [V]ote-auction.com > >>> >> >> > >>>[<<mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@>< R@>mailto:PR@>mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] > >>> >> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:33 AM > >> > >> >> > >> To: pr@ubermorgen.com > >>> >> >> > >> Subject: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? 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Gl=FCckwunsch zur sehr gelungenen Abschiedserkl=E4rung von Vote-Auction! Jedenfalls =E4rgern sich bestimmt viele, dass die 6231 Stimmen in Florida nicht tats=E4chlich versteigert wurden. Der return on investment w=E4re es sicherlich wert gewesen. Ich bin ebenfalls gespannt auf IPNIC, allerdings fehlt in der Unterzeile des Logos ein Buchstabe in Partnership, siehe attachment. Best, /// Alexander Attachment converted: Mac OS 9:ipnic-logo.gif (GIFf/ogle) (00009588) From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:49 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 51251 invoked by uid 4004); 3 Nov 2000 17:27:20 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 51248 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 17:27:20 -0000 Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (195.20.224.200) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 17:27:20 -0000 Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13rkdD-0004b7-00 for liz@ubermorgen.com; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:27:59 +0100 Received: from p3ee07027.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.224.112.39] helo=icannchannel.de) by mrvdom01.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13rkd8-0006Ux-00 for liz@ubermorgen.com; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:27:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:27:25 +0100 From: Alexander Svensson To: liz@ubermorgen.com Subject: Re: Vote-auction-Domainloeschung X-Mailer: Alexander Svensson's registered AK-Mail 3.1 publicbeta2a [ger] Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 27 Hallo nochmals! > sie berufen sich auf den erhalt einer > email aus missouri, wo sie als beklagter > in einer zivilklage genannt werden, bzw. > es zu dieser klagge auch eine einstweilige > verfuegung gaebe (welche wir bis dato > nicht erhalten haben). > ...sie haben ja auch nur eine email > bekommen.... Auf Grundlage einer *E-Mail* schalten die Domains ab?!? (Da käme man ja fast auf böse Gedanken.) > jedenfalls, sie sagen sie waeren massiv unter > druck, dass sie um leib und seele ihrer > mitglieder in den u.s.a. fuerchten. sie > begruenden ihre vorgangsweise durch die > gravity unseres cases.... Für die Seele ist es schon zu spät. Übrigens *!* freut sich CORE bestimmt nicht über schlechte Schlagzeilen vor dem ICANN-Treffen. CORE möchte nämlich überall dabei sein: -- Alleiniger Antragsteller für .nom, -- Antragstellergruppe für .info/.site/.web -- technischer Betreiber für .health (WHO), .museum, .post (UPU) CORE-Vorsitzender Ken Stubbs ist zugleich Mitglied des ICANN-DNSO-Names Council, und deswegen gibt es schon Kritik genug. Insofern kommt die Vote-Auction-Entscheidung zu einem für die sehr ungünstigen Zeitpunkt. Noch ein Übrigens: Einer der sieben Leute im CORE Executive Committee ist Hal Lubsen, der Chef von Domain Bank. > jedenfalls, sie tun mir ja leid, dass sie > da einfach so zum handkuss kommen, aber > wahrscheinlich werden wir einfach gegen- > klagen. Bonne chance! /// Alexander From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:12:50 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 47356 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 10:00:29 -0000 Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (195.20.224.200) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 10:00:29 -0000 Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13rdej-0001uA-00 for liz@ubermorgen.com; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:01:05 +0100 Received: from p3ee06867.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.224.104.103] helo=icannchannel.de) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13rdeE-0000kx-00 for liz@ubermorgen.com; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:00:35 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:00:00 +0100 From: Alexander Svensson To: liz@ubermorgen.com Subject: Vote-auction-Domainloeschung X-Mailer: Alexander Svensson's registered AK-Mail 3.1 publicbeta2a [ger] Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 28 Hallo Liz! Wahrscheinlich hast Du es eh schon von CSL gehört, ich wollte nur noch mal Bescheid sagen, dass die Löschung von vote-auction.com absurderweise nicht einmal von einer amerikanischen Stelle, sondern von CORE, einem Registrarverbund in Genf vorgenommen wurde. Euer Registrar, CSL/joker.com ist Mitglied des CORE-Verbunds, und registriert seine Domains z.T. selbst (CSL/joker ist ICANN-akkreditiert), aber zum Teil auch über CORE. Die fragliche Domain ist offenbar via CORE registriert worden, und laut Siegfried Langenbach von CSL/joker ist die Statusänderung von CORE vorgenommen wurde. Alles Gute, /// Alexander _______________________________________________________ ICANN Channel http://www.icannchannel.de Alexander Svensson Blumenau 20 D 22089 Hamburg From dplanet@dplanet.org Thu Nov 02 09:13:49 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 41530 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 09:13:49 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 41527 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 09:13:47 -0000 Received: from tank.type01.com (196.36.170.8) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 09:13:47 -0000 Received: from [192.168.13.58] (cypher.type01.com [196.36.170.5]) by tank.type01.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id eA29D6r19879 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:13:06 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 11:13:52 +0200 Subject: Re: Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN [PRESS RELEASE] From: "::dplanet::" To: "[V]ote-auction PR" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 29 vote auction feature/ press release live on dplanet,,, ::dplanet:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: http://www.dplanet.org/ http://www.dplanet.co.za/ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: <---------------------tranzmission end---------------------> From dplanet@dplanet.org Thu Nov 02 08:01:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 41263 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 08:01:24 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 41257 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 08:01:21 -0000 Received: from tank.type01.com (196.36.170.8) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 08:01:21 -0000 Received: from [192.168.13.58] (cypher.type01.com [196.36.170.5]) by tank.type01.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id eA280ar18791 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:00:36 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 10:01:23 +0200 Subject: Re: Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN [PRESS RELEASE] From: "::dplanet::" To: "[V]ote-auction PR" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 30 on 2/11/00 9:51 am, [V]ote-auction PR at pr@[62.116.31.68] wrote: > > greetZ, for dplanet! > have a NIZE DAY! > > hans_e > > -- > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Vienna/Berlin, November 2nd, 2000, 7 am CET > > Below you find the latest press release by [V]ote-auction: > http://62.116.31.68 > http://www.voteauction.at > http://www.voteauction.de > > [formerly Vote-auction.com and Voteauction.com]. > > You can also find this press release at > http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm > > For any further information feel free to contact > pr@[62.116.31.68] or in urgent cases call our > ubermorgen.com hotlines: > > berlin +49-175-2066954 > vienna +43 676 9300061 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > [V] Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN > > [V]ote-auction, the only platform worldwide allowing > end-consumers to take part in the U.S. election > industry [formerly called "soft money"], falls again > victim to a repressive campaign against free speech. > > Yesterday, 1st of November 2000, the domain Vote-auction.com > got illegally shut down by InterNIC. InterNIC is the > central institution located in the U.S. where all domain > name service records for the .com/.net/.org are stored. > We, and neither our providers have received any notification > about this action at all, nor have we been informed of any > legal documents which would allow for such a step. > Up to this moment, InterNIC is declining comment on the > issue. > > > [V] Why was the domain shut down in this way? > > Our first domain, voteauction.com, was registered with > a dns-registry located in the U.S. Our "late" domain, > vote-auction.com, however, was registered via a company > located in Germany, i.e. outside of U.S. jurisdiction. > This is why, appearantly, some-one in the U.S., probably > parties from the Chicago law suit where vote-auction.com > is named as a defendant, decided to just forget about legal > proceedings, and went directly to InterNIC, ignoring inter- > national law. > > > [V] What will happen to [V]ote-auction now? > > Our lawyers are currently investigating, as you might > imagine. Furthermore, we have discussed the issue > with newly-elect ICANN board director Andy Mueller-Maguhn, > who commented the issue with "I guess, we will have to > do something about this". A colleague of his called it > "it is absolutely clear that this is plain outrageous". > > On a more practical level, we are reachable via our > IP - our new url is: http://62.116.31.68 > > Using the IP address will finally give us full protection > against any further actions against our site, as IP > addresses are not dependant on domain name services. > > Luckily, this DNS-SHUTDOWN was not intelligentely timed. > Due to our "opponents'" lazy tactics, Vote-auction.com will > now definitely be online and reachable to the public on > Election Day via several domains and under the IP-Address > controlled by a european institution: ripe.net. > > On a funny note, one could say that now they either have > to shut down the whole Internet or arrest the whole US- > population, OR, which is more likely, our site will stay > functional and online. > > > [V] [V]ote-auction is BACK UNDER > > Thanks to the incredible work of our dear provider > SILVER SERVER [www.sil.at], we were able to get back online > fast and are now reachable at: http://62.116.31.68 > This is the safest address currently available. > > Vote-auction can also be reached under: > http://voteauction.enemy.org > > Vote-auction has issued a free speech support campaign in > order to gather hundreds of vote-auction and voteauction > domains or install sub-domains all pointing to: > http://62.116.31.68 > > From November, 2nd, the following domains shall be active: > http://www.voteauction.at [Austrian domain] > http://www.voteauction.de [Germany, thx to think-factory.de] > http://www.voteauction.cu [Cuban domain] > http://www.voteauction.ru [Russian domain] > http://www.vote-auction.net > http://www.vote-auction.org > > > > [V] Vote-auction.com ADDS NEW FEATURES > > Now to some really good news! > > Vote-auction, still the "Leader of the Election Industry", > and the first mover in this field, has added various new > features: > > [] Updated figures, automated processes > Our new software has allowed us to verify the numbers > which have been in the system so far. We have cleared > out all double and fake entries and can now provide > you with live, real-time rendered data: > http://62.116.31.68/check.php3 > > *current no. of sellers: 56.789 > > > [] International polls > In order to showcase the US-presidential election even > better, Vote-auction has released several polls for > national and international audiences. > Vote-auction intends to involve a worldwide audience by > polling their preferences on "Gore-Bush-Nader", a community > poll will raise the Question whether Vote-auction.com > should be considered "legal or Illegal", and the most > important question of all - "Would you rather go voting > if you received money for it?". Find the polls at: > http://62.116.31.68/index00.htm > > > [] 1-CLICK-BIDDING function > In order to use our bidding section we have implemented > a 1-click-bidding function with user-verification. This > will help ensuring the authenticity of the bidders and will > secure the bidders' offer. Find the bid-check section: > http://62.116.31.68/check.php3 > > > [] ALL NEW MESSAGE-BOARD, heavily crowded > Created to stimulate public reaction from the U.S., but > also the international audiences, you will now find our > message board crowded and full with interesting and > controversial discussions: > http://62.116.31.68/forum/ > > > [] Extended PRESS-ARCHIVE, over 200 internat. news-segments > Due to the massive response in the media, we have updated > our press-section providing you with broad information on > how Vote-auction is featured and discussed in the press. > Well over 200 e-press-clippings have been discovered by > our PR-department: > http://62.116.31.68/news.htm > > [V] Final note > > We want to end this press release with a quote from > chief counsel to the California secretary of state, > Bill Jones, who seems to have a somewhat "personal" view > on free speech: > > "whether this is a parody [...] that this man is > running, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever > in California. [...] because you are talking about > the corruption of the voting process." > > Source: CNN, "Burden of Proof", Oct 24 2000 > http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram > > Appearantely, there are other individuals and/or > authorities, who share his viewpoint. We have just > received notice of further lawsuits filed in the states > of Wisconsin and Missouri by their respective Attorney > Generals. > > > For the Vote-auction team: > > lizvlx > [V]ote-auction PR > > > > PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction via > web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: > > pr@[62.116.31.68] > http://62.116.31.68 > http://www.voteauction.at > > > We will not be able to receive messages sent to any of > the old addresses. Thank you. > > > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > [] [] > [] [V]ote-auction [] > [] [] > [] pr@[62.116.31.68] [] > [] [] > [] The Election Industry Leader - Bringing [] > [] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] > [] [] > [] _brought to you by ubermorgen.com [] > [] [] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > i'm making an dp:: affiliates feature/ press release ::dplanet:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: http://www.dplanet.org/ http://www.dplanet.co.za/ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: <---------------------tranzmission end---------------------> From bix@geekforce.org Sun Nov 05 15:37:49 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 65300 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 15:37:49 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 65297 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 15:37:49 -0000 Received: from relay1.teleport.com (192.108.254.28) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 15:37:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 21423 invoked by uid 5); 5 Nov 2000 15:38:45 -0000 Received: from i48-16-15.pdx.du.teleport.com(216.26.5.207), claiming to be "[216.26.5.207]" via SMTP by relay1.teleport.com, id smtpdAAAAKQnU_; Sun Nov 5 07:38:39 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 07:38:03 -0800 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] From: b!X Subject: voteauction.geekforce.org Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 31 As per suggestion via the latest RTMark missive, voteauction.geekforce.org now points to 62.116.31.68 - b!X Global Effort to Eradicate Know-nothings VOTE OR DIE! From nobudget@megsinet.net Sun Nov 05 15:13:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 65145 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 15:13:45 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 65142 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 15:13:44 -0000 Received: from mx1.core.com (HELO smtp-1.core.com) (208.40.40.42) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 15:13:44 -0000 Received: from megsinet.net ([208.133.79.90]) by smtp-1.core.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G3K56505.D35 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 09:18:05 -0600 Message-ID: <3A04B4A1.5135453D@megsinet.net> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 09:15:14 +0800 From: Brett Bloom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: link Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 32 you will find a link from www.temporaryservices.org/fllw.html. please let us know if it is alright to use your logo. if you have any changes you want us to make, let me know. Brett Bloom for Temporary Services From biglittle@soundsokay.com Thu Nov 09 17:55:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 16889 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 2000 17:55:21 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 16886 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2000 17:55:21 -0000 Received: from mail.wmn.net (207.137.32.6) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2000 17:55:21 -0000 Received: from [64.24.43.141] (c03-141.012.popsite.net [64.24.43.141]) by mail.wmn.net (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08831 for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 09:59:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: biglittle@mail.wmn.net Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:57:01 -0500 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] From: Big/Little Gallery Subject: Big/Little supports Voteauction Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 33 In support of Voteauction Big/Little has temporarily re-directed the soundsokay.com domain to point to: http://62.116.31.68 good luck, BLG From c@no-data.com Mon Nov 06 19:38:10 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 80048 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 19:38:10 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 80045 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 19:38:09 -0000 Received: from pieck.student.uva.nl (146.50.96.22) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 19:38:09 -0000 Received: from no-data.com ([212.64.123.63]) by pieck.student.uva.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G3MBXI00.24V for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:39:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3A070889.3B3F26EC@no-data.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:37:45 +0100 From: chris detweiler Organization: no-data X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 34 Hi, www.no-data.com has been redirected to http://62.116.31.68 good luck & regards, c det From brianbergevin@yahoo.com Mon Nov 06 22:52:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 82996 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 22:52:14 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 82993 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 22:52:13 -0000 Received: from web1503.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.181) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 22:52:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 18453 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2000 23:33:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20001106233301.18452.qmail@web1503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.14.11] by web1503.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:33:01 PST Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:33:01 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Bergevin Reply-To: brianbergevin@yahoo.com Subject: Fwd: failure delivery To: pr@[62.116.31.68] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 35 > Just heard about NSI pulling Vote-Auction.com's domain, and I > disapprove of it. I was around when NSI pulled the same stunt with > ETOY.com. I can't do much to help, but I'll happily add a link to it > from my website, www.stuffedwombat.com, as soon as I can tonight. > > Good luck. > -Brian Bergevin > www.stuffedwombat.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From daveclayton@worldnet.att.net Sun Nov 05 17:58:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66323 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 17:58:01 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66319 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 17:57:30 -0000 Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.240) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 17:57:30 -0000 Received: from DaveClayton ([63.207.130.72]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G3K00BB0CHDH7@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for pr@[62.116.31.68]; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 09:56:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 09:56:21 -0800 From: David Clayton Subject: Vote auction To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Message-id: <002f01c04752$08f777a0$04000005@DaveClayton> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0470E.A6B0E920" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 36 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0470E.A6B0E920 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0026_01C0470E.A6B0E920" ------=_NextPart_001_0026_01C0470E.A6B0E920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have copied the e-mail from RTMark into an htm file, uploaded it onto = my Web site, and added a link to it from my home page. 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------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0470E.A6B0E920 Content-Type: text/html; name="rtmark_vote.htm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rtmark_vote.htm" November 5

Dave's Other Movie Log

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= Articles  = Contents  R= eviews  Guestbook

   November 5, = 2000
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

VOTEAUCTION SATIRE ILLEGALLY SQUELCHED, WILL RE-OPEN IN HUNDREDS OF = PLACES
RTMark.com reveals its role, offers cash to the first person who can
redirect the domain of a major candidate's website to http://62.116.31.68

Contact:
   Voteauction: mailto:pr@[62.116.31.68]
      http://62.116.31.68
   Bill Jones: (916) 653-7244
   ICANN: mailto:icann@icann.org
   Andy Mueller-Maguhn: mailto:andy@ccc.de
   Domain Bank: mailto:shemphill@domainbank.net<= /a>
   Network Solutions: mailto:cregan@netsol.com
   RTMark: mailto:voteauction@rtmark.com<= br>       http://rtmark.com/voteauction= .html
      http://rtmark.com/etoynsi.html

Voteauction, the satirical website which bills itself as "the = only
election platform channelling 'soft money' directly to the democracy
consumer," has fallen victim to a heavy-handed and sometimes = illegal
campaign against free speech by two corporations and several public
officials.

On November 1, Network Solutions (the private for-profit corporation = in
charge of all .com, .net, and .org domains) shut down = Vote-auction.com
without warning or explanation, shortly after public attacks by the
California Secretary of State, and after the Chicago Board of = Elections
filed an election fraud lawsuit against the domain. Neither the owners = nor
the service providers received any notification or warning of the
shutdown, and Network Solutions has refused to comment on the issue. = (See
http://rtmark.com/etoynsi.html for an earlier example of illegal and still
unexplained acts by the company.)

California Secretary of State Bill Jones seems to have set the stage = for
this blatant disregard of Constitutional free speech protections by
stating last week on CNN that corporate financing of elections is = one
subject that cannot be discussed: "whether this is a parody... = makes
absolutely no difference whatsoever in California... because you are
talking about the corruption of the voting process."
(http://= www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram)

RTMark sponsored Voteauction.com in June (project VOTE, listed at
http://rtmark.com/featured.= html#VOTE) precisely because the satirical site
helps highlight the ways corporations already effectively purchase = votes.
As law professor Jamin Raskin said about Voteauction, "...we have = now
evolved a system in which it's OK for money to buy elections, and yet = we
somehow cling to the fantasy that there's something deeply immoral = about
the purchase of an individual vote."
(http= ://www.wirednews.com/news/politics/0,1283,38559,00.html)

RTMark and many others believe that if U.S. authorities such as Bill = Jones
wish to purge the election process of corruption, they should start = by
preventing corporations from spending unlimited sums on electing = particular
candidates, not by stopping a satire that highlights the problem. As = one
commentator wrote, "few would disagree that the problem with money = in
politics today is the hundreds of millions of dollars at the top, not = a
few dollars at the bottom. Which is why the short-lived vote sale should = be
seen less as a serious act of sabotage and more as guerrilla = theater."
(http= ://slate.msn.com/netelection/entries/00-08-23_88646.asp)

Network Solutions' illegal deletion of the Vote-auction.com domain is = just
the latest blow in a series of actions that have closed the = satirical
website three times since it opened in August.

1: In August, Voteauction.com founder James Baumgartner, a graduate
student, was told by New York State Board of Elections officials that = they
would press charges against him; they even implied that he could be = guilty
of treason, which is punishable by execution. Baumgartner, faced with = what
amounted to an official state-sponsored death threat, had little choice = but
to close the site on August 18, at which point RTMark helped transfer = the
domain to its current Austrian owner, Hans Bernhard, who immediately
re-opened Voteauction.com with new features.

2. On October 21, Domain Bank, the U.S. company with which = Voteauction.com
had been registered, illegally froze the domain. Bernhard responded = by
registering Vote-auction.com (with an added hyphen) with a company = located
outside U.S. jurisdiction.

3: On November 1, to circumvent this approach, Network Solutions, = without
warning and in clear violation of international law, removed
Vote-auction.com from its root servers (the computers that provide = domain
information to all others). It is unknown who requested this action, = and
under what authority Network Solutions feels justified in performing = it.
Andy Mueller-Maguhn, a newly-elected director of ICANN, the = non-profit
corporation responsible for all internet domains, agreed this was an
illegal move and said "I guess we will have to do something about this."

In response to Network Solution's attack, the Voteauction team has = begun
gathering Vote-auction and Voteauction domains around the world and = is
calling on other domain owners to point their domains or sub-domains = to
http://62.116.31.68, the Voteauction = IP (IP addresses are not dependent on
domain name registrars or on Internic). If you have a domain or = sub-domain
that you can point to http://62.116.31.68, please do so and forward the
information to mailto:pr@[62.116.31.68] to be added to a list of
supporters.

In addition, RTMark has secured a $500 investment, of which $300 will = be
offered to the first person who can redirect the domain of a major = US
political candidate (for federal or state office) to http://62.116.31.68.
The remaining $200 will be offered to the first person to re-route = the
domain of a major media outlet covering the elections to the = Voteauction
IP.


RTMark's primary goal is to publicize corporate subversion of the
democratic process. To this end it acts as a clearinghouse for
anti-corporate projects.

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------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0470E.A6B0E920-- From adamw@tulum.brsys.com Sun Nov 05 17:36:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66179 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 17:36:47 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66176 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 17:36:46 -0000 Received: from dnai-216-15-45-74.cust.dnai.com (HELO tulum.brsys.com) (216.15.45.74) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 17:36:46 -0000 Received: (from adamw@localhost) by tulum.brsys.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eA5HqCC25588; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 09:52:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20001105095212.A25584@brsys.com> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 09:52:12 -0800 From: Adam Wight To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: another vote-auction subdomain References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Gail Wight on Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 02:48:43AM -0800 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 37 vote.ludd.net -> 62.116.31.68 > >Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 23:12:30 -0500 > >To: Potential Voter > >From: RTMark > >Subject: Corporate vote-buying OK, satire not OK. > >Sender: announce0045-proxy@rtmark.com > > > >November 5, 2000 > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > >VOTEAUCTION SATIRE ILLEGALLY SQUELCHED, WILL RE-OPEN IN HUNDREDS OF PLACES > >RTMark.com reveals its role, offers cash to the first person who can > >redirect the domain of a major candidate's website to http://62.116.31.68 > > > >Contact: > > Voteauction: mailto:pr@[62.116.31.68] > > http://62.116.31.68 > > Bill Jones: (916) 653-7244 > > ICANN: mailto:icann@icann.org > > Andy Mueller-Maguhn: mailto:andy@ccc.de > > Domain Bank: mailto:shemphill@domainbank.net > > Network Solutions: mailto:cregan@netsol.com > > RTMark: mailto:voteauction@rtmark.com > > http://rtmark.com/voteauction.html > > http://rtmark.com/etoynsi.html > > > >Voteauction, the satirical website which bills itself as "the only > >election platform channelling 'soft money' directly to the democracy > >consumer," has fallen victim to a heavy-handed and sometimes illegal > >campaign against free speech by two corporations and several public > >officials. > > > >On November 1, Network Solutions (the private for-profit corporation in > >charge of all .com, .net, and .org domains) shut down Vote-auction.com > >without warning or explanation, shortly after public attacks by the > >California Secretary of State, and after the Chicago Board of Elections > >filed an election fraud lawsuit against the domain. Neither the owners nor > >the service providers received any notification or warning of the > >shutdown, and Network Solutions has refused to comment on the issue. (See > >http://rtmark.com/etoynsi.html for an earlier example of illegal and still > >unexplained acts by the company.) > > > >California Secretary of State Bill Jones seems to have set the stage for > >this blatant disregard of Constitutional free speech protections by > >stating last week on CNN that corporate financing of elections is one > >subject that cannot be discussed: "whether this is a parody... makes > >absolutely no difference whatsoever in California... because you are > >talking about the corruption of the voting process." > >(http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram) > > > >RTMark sponsored Voteauction.com in June (project VOTE, listed at > >http://rtmark.com/featured.html#VOTE) precisely because the satirical site > >helps highlight the ways corporations already effectively purchase votes. > >As law professor Jamin Raskin said about Voteauction, "...we have now > >evolved a system in which it's OK for money to buy elections, and yet we > >somehow cling to the fantasy that there's something deeply immoral about > >the purchase of an individual vote." > >(http://www.wirednews.com/news/politics/0,1283,38559,00.html) > > > >RTMark and many others believe that if U.S. authorities such as Bill Jones > >wish to purge the election process of corruption, they should start by > >preventing corporations from spending unlimited sums on electing particular > >candidates, not by stopping a satire that highlights the problem. As one > >commentator wrote, "few would disagree that the problem with money in > >politics today is the hundreds of millions of dollars at the top, not a > >few dollars at the bottom. Which is why the short-lived vote sale should be > >seen less as a serious act of sabotage and more as guerrilla theater." > >(http://slate.msn.com/netelection/entries/00-08-23_88646.asp) > > > >Network Solutions' illegal deletion of the Vote-auction.com domain is just > >the latest blow in a series of actions that have closed the satirical > >website three times since it opened in August. > > > >1: In August, Voteauction.com founder James Baumgartner, a graduate > >student, was told by New York State Board of Elections officials that they > >would press charges against him; they even implied that he could be guilty > >of treason, which is punishable by execution. Baumgartner, faced with what > >amounted to an official state-sponsored death threat, had little choice but > >to close the site on August 18, at which point RTMark helped transfer the > >domain to its current Austrian owner, Hans Bernhard, who immediately > >re-opened Voteauction.com with new features. > > > >2. On October 21, Domain Bank, the U.S. company with which Voteauction.com > >had been registered, illegally froze the domain. Bernhard responded by > >registering Vote-auction.com (with an added hyphen) with a company located > >outside U.S. jurisdiction. > > > >3: On November 1, to circumvent this approach, Network Solutions, without > >warning and in clear violation of international law, removed > >Vote-auction.com from its root servers (the computers that provide domain > >information to all others). It is unknown who requested this action, and > >under what authority Network Solutions feels justified in performing it. > >Andy Mueller-Maguhn, a newly-elected director of ICANN, the non-profit > >corporation responsible for all internet domains, agreed this was an > >illegal move and said "I guess we will have to do something about this." > > > >In response to Network Solution's attack, the Voteauction team has begun > >gathering Vote-auction and Voteauction domains around the world and is > >calling on other domain owners to point their domains or sub-domains to > >http://62.116.31.68, the Voteauction IP (IP addresses are not dependent on > >domain name registrars or on Internic). If you have a domain or sub-domain > >that you can point to http://62.116.31.68, please do so and forward the > >information to mailto:pr@[62.116.31.68] to be added to a list of > >supporters. > > > >In addition, RTMark has secured a $500 investment, of which $300 will be > >offered to the first person who can redirect the domain of a major US > >political candidate (for federal or state office) to http://62.116.31.68. > >The remaining $200 will be offered to the first person to re-route the > >domain of a major media outlet covering the elections to the Voteauction > >IP. > > > > > >RTMark's primary goal is to publicize corporate subversion of the > >democratic process. To this end it acts as a clearinghouse for > >anti-corporate projects. > > From kermit@perkigoth.com Mon Nov 06 02:36:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 70334 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 02:36:55 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 70331 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 02:36:54 -0000 Received: from thecluephone.com (root@63.192.36.106) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 02:36:54 -0000 Received: from mopey (mopey.perkigoth.com [63.192.36.109]) by thecluephone.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA21922; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:38:28 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Kermit" To: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" Cc: , Subject: RE: www.thecluephone.com Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:38:30 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-reply-to: Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 38 I am very sorry to have to inform you that I can no longer offer use of the domain www.thecluephone.com. I like to support the actions of RTMark and find my self agreeing with its actions 90% of the time, including this time. Unfortunately, the domain thecluephone.com is responsible for the name service of quite a few other domains, and any action taken by Network Solutions against thecluephone.com could prove to be disastrous to those other domains. Honestly, this is bad planning and domain layout on my part. I seriously doubt that the U.S. government would understand the concepts involved in my pointing a DNS address at another site, and would think that the site is actually running on my equipment. I have provided a link from the front page of www.thecluephone.com to the IP address of Vote-Auction.com in a way that makes it appear that the domain vote-auction.com is still available. As far as I know, NSI can not take action against links. I am looking through my domain inventory to see if I can offer a different domain for use by your organization, that would prove to have a meaningful name. I will let you know when I find one. I understand that time is of the essence here. Thank you, and again, I am very sorry. > -----Original Message----- > From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:04 AM > To: kermit@perkigoth.com > Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com > Subject: Re: www.thecluephone.com > > > thanks a lot! > > we will do some updates on the site tonite > and include a page listing all the ways > to reach voteuauction. > > you can use the logo and everything the way > you want to, we dont claim copyrights on > anything, we consider voteauction to be in > the public domain. > > best > lizvlx > > >I have pointed a domain I am not yet activly using for websites > >(www.thecluephone.com) at 62.116.31.68. > > > >I hope this helps. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > ___________ > >kermit@perkigoth.com > http://www.perkigoth.com/ > >Perkigoth Streaming Music > http://www.perkigoth.com/music/ > >Ain't Dead Yet! > http://www.perkigoth.com/aintdeadyet/ > >_________________________________________________________________ > ___________ > > -- > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From kermit@perkigoth.com Sun Nov 05 10:37:28 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 64060 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 10:37:28 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 64057 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 10:37:27 -0000 Received: from thecluephone.com (root@63.192.36.106) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 10:37:27 -0000 Received: from mopey (mopey.perkigoth.com [63.192.36.109]) by thecluephone.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA20297 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 02:39:42 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Kermit" To: Subject: www.thecluephone.com Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 02:38:45 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 39 I have pointed a domain I am not yet activly using for websites (www.thecluephone.com) at 62.116.31.68. I hope this helps. ____________________________________________________________________________ kermit@perkigoth.com http://www.perkigoth.com/ Perkigoth Streaming Music http://www.perkigoth.com/music/ Ain't Dead Yet! http://www.perkigoth.com/aintdeadyet/ ____________________________________________________________________________ From jon@scribble.com Mon Nov 06 19:15:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 79716 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 19:15:08 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 79713 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 19:15:07 -0000 Received: from scribble.com (jon@206.163.46.72) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 19:15:07 -0000 Received: (from jon@localhost) by scribble.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA03536 for pr@[62.116.31.68]; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:04:09 -0800 From: jon Message-Id: <200011061904.LAA03536@scribble.com> Subject: vote-auction sympathetic domains To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:04:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200011050400.XAA29081@rtmark.com> from "RTMark" at Nov 04, 2000 11:00:49 PM Organization: UnderWorld Industries X-URL: http://scribble.com/jon.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 40 i just added: vote.dement.org vote-auction.dement.org voteauction.dement.org -jon _____________________________________________________________________________ NOW USE: jon@scribble.com * http://scribble.com/jon/ * sito.org * gracies.org "You can keep talking. I will just be talking, too." -- megan From LSener@Think-Factory.de Thu Nov 02 00:28:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 37094 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 00:28:55 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 37091 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 00:28:54 -0000 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (195.20.224.149) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 00:28:54 -0000 Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13r8Fp-0008Es-00 for pr@ubermorgen.com; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:29:17 +0100 Received: from pd4b9e87c.dip.t-dialin.net ([212.185.232.124] helo=tecra780) by mrvdom01.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13r8Fg-0003nb-00; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:29:08 +0100 Return-Receipt-To: "Levend Sener" From: "Levend Sener" To: Subject: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:29:05 +0100 Message-ID: <00bb01c04463$e9282ff0$695305d9@ThinkFactory.Office> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C0446C.4AEC97F0" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: High Disposition-Notification-To: "Levend Sener" Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 41 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C0446C.4AEC97F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo "Vote-Auction", den forward konnen wir einrichten ... Als Gegenleistung sollte sich Bannerwerbung und Namedropping in der Presse einrichten lassen, oder ?! ;-)) Gru?e, Sener > -----Original Message----- > From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:33 AM > To: pr@ubermorgen.com > Subject: und, linkst du uns auf die neue url? > > > > see english below... > > ----------------------- > dear voteauction /vote-auction.com/.net/.org/... inhaber, > > frage ist, bekommen wir ein forward von eurer domain > auf unsere neue adresse, oder einen link? > > http://62.116.31.68 > > als gegendeal wuerd ich - wenn gewollt - bannerplacing, > namedropping in pressreleases etc anbieten. > > antwort? > > liebe gruesse, > > lizvlx > [V]ote-auction.com > > -------------------- > dear voteauc tion /vote-auction.com/.net/.org/... owner. > > question is, will you provide us with a link or a > forward to our new adress? > > http://62.116.31.68 > > for a deal. i can offer banner-advertizing, mentioning > in press releases etc.. > > answer? > > best wishes, > > lizvlx > [V]ote-auction.com > -- > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C0446C.4AEC97F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hallo=20 "Vote-Auction",

den forward konnen wir einrichten ...
Als=20 Gegenleistung sollte sich Bannerwerbung und Namedropping = in der=20 Presse einrichten lassen, oder ?!  = ;-)) 

Grüße,
Sener
 
 
 


> -----Original=20 Message-----
> From: PR [V]ote-auction.com = [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]]
> Sent: = Thursday, November=20 02, 2000 12:33 AM
> To: pr@ubermorgen.com
> Subject: und, = linkst du=20 uns auf die neue url?
>
>
>
>   see = english=20 below...
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>   = -----------------------
>  =20 dear voteauction /vote-auction.com/.net/.org/...=20 inhaber,
>
>   frage ist, bekommen  wir ein = forward=20 von eurer domain
>   auf unsere neue adresse, oder einen = link?
>
>   http://62.116.31.68
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>   als gegendeal wuerd ich - wenn gewollt = -=20 bannerplacing,
>   namedropping in pressreleases etc=20 anbieten.
>
>   = antwort?
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>   liebe=20 gruesse,
>
>   lizvlx
>  =20 [V]ote-auction.com
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>  =20 --------------------
>   dear voteauc tion=20 /vote-auction.com/.net/.org/... owner.
>
>   = question is,=20 will you provide us with a link or a
>   forward to our = new=20 adress?
>
>   http://62.116.31.68
>
>   for a deal. i can offer = banner-advertizing,=20 mentioning
>   in press releases=20 etc..
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>   answer?
>
>   = best=20 wishes,
>
>   lizvlx
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------=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C0446C.4AEC97F0-- From one@hell.com Sun Nov 05 19:10:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66782 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 19:10:41 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66779 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 19:10:41 -0000 Received: from final.org (HELO hell.com) (161.58.223.45) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 19:10:41 -0000 Received: from [63.27.22.134] (1Cust134.tnt1.malibu.ca.da.uu.net [63.27.22.134]) by hell.com (8.8.8) id MAA24321; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:11:39 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: one@hell.com (Unverified) Message-Id: X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:18:33 -0800 To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com From: one@hell.com Subject: TRAFFIC from HELL Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 42 have "ray" contact me and we'll repoint HELL.COM thru the election good for about 5000 humans /day -- kenneth aronson one@HELL.COM 310.450.8069 txt to phone /urgent messages cell@HELL.COM http://final.org http://HELL.COM http://no-such.com 77 market street venice, california 90291 usa From hydra@umail.ucsb.edu Mon Nov 06 19:33:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 79981 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 19:33:41 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 79977 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 19:33:40 -0000 Received: from mhub2.tc.umn.edu (0@128.101.131.42) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 19:33:40 -0000 Return-Path: Received: from [128.101.253.136] by mhub2.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for pr@[62.116.31.68]; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:34:41 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: hydra@pop.umail.ucsb.edu Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:09:52 -0600 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] From: Peter Krapp Subject: pop-up Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 43 rtmark, this is no redirect, but a pop-up on a site that has more than 1500 hits per day - and to date no popups ever - and the pop- up window will lead people to http://62.116.31.68. You may add http://www.hydra.umn.edu to your list of supporters (as well as http://www.krapp.org and the much less popular dir http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~hydra/). please keep me posted. I should add that I saw the CNN show and am suspicious about the legal situation; however, it did not help that new domain owner Hans Bernhard refused to say whether this was indeed a serious enterprise for profit, or whether it was a parody. He never referred to free speech. Doing so might have defused the situation somewhat that day. I guess that was not the goal... Yours as usual, PK / agent othmar / DJ Vu From hades@elsewhere.org Tue Nov 07 01:44:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 85532 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 2000 01:44:32 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 85529 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 01:44:32 -0000 Received: from c516329-a.sttln1.wa.home.com (HELO discord.elsewhere.org) (24.0.90.63) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 01:44:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (hades@localhost) by discord.elsewhere.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA12634 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:50:16 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: discord.elsewhere.org: hades owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:50:16 -0800 (PST) From: Pope Dubious Provenance XI To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: DNS additions. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 44 Within the next hour or two, as dns propagates, vote-auction.elsewhere.org, voteauction.elsewhere.org, vote-auction.emperornorton.net and voteauction.emperornorton.net will point to 62.116.31.68. I just now saw the press release at http://www.rtmark.com/voteauctionpr.html or I would have done it sooner. Yours, PDP-XI Elsewhere.ORG From un@king.dom.de Sun Nov 05 09:27:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 63841 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 09:27:32 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 63838 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 09:27:32 -0000 Received: from king.dom.de (194.77.86.7) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 09:27:32 -0000 Received: (from un@localhost) by king.dom.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24955; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 10:28:19 +0100 Message-ID: <20001105102819.C23097@king.dom.de> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 10:28:19 +0100 From: un To: RTMark , pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: Re: Corporate vote-buying OK, satire not OK. Does un@dom.de agree? References: <200011050406.XAA30536@rtmark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <200011050406.XAA30536@rtmark.com>; from RTMark on Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:06:27PM -0500 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 http://voteauction.aporee.org/ http://vote-auction.aporee.org/ bye, uno -- /me: core media exp http://king.dom.de/ From jim@mediumArt.com Sun Nov 05 19:10:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66770 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 19:10:24 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66767 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 19:10:24 -0000 Received: from ns.tspcfast.net (207.8.231.2) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 19:10:24 -0000 Received: from mediumArt.com (dialup-209.245.34.91.SanDiego1.Level3.net [209.245.34.91]) by ns.tspcfast.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00795 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:13:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3A05B06D.9B4B8B1F@mediumArt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 11:09:34 -0800 From: ~jim Reply-To: jim@mediumArt.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 46 my email is not reaching you. this is a resend... the polls section >http://62.116.31.68/mainframe.htm# links to a new popup window that is blank. netscape 4.7 mac os9 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed May 9 13:14:37 2001 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002701c0ccfe$8035e8b0$9178add1@RobinsNest> References: <002701c0ccfe$8035e8b0$9178add1@RobinsNest> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:48:21 +0200 To: "Robin Lionheart" From: "[V]ote-auction PR" Subject: Re: ODP: Vote-auction.com -> Vote-auction.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 47 sorry to bug you again - i have one question: why is it, that when i look for voteauction in dmoz.org that i get lots of results, but they are all articles about voteauction, but i do not get the website itself? seems strange to me... best lizvlx >Great, I'm glad you have a real URL again. Updated your listing in the Open >Directory from "62.116.31.68" to "vote-auction.net". From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed May 9 13:14:38 2001 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002701c0ccfe$8035e8b0$9178add1@RobinsNest> References: <002701c0ccfe$8035e8b0$9178add1@RobinsNest> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:11:52 +0200 To: "Robin Lionheart" From: "[V]ote-auction PR" Subject: Re: ODP: Vote-auction.com -> Vote-auction.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 48 hiback and thanks fyi: this url was available the whole time, they never nuked it...no idea why... best lizvlx >Great, I'm glad you have a real URL again. Updated your listing in the Open >Directory from "62.116.31.68" to "vote-auction.net". From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed May 9 13:15:47 2001 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007c01c0cff3$543d7410$e57aadd1@RobinsNest> References: <002701c0ccfe$8035e8b0$9178add1@RobinsNest> <007c01c0cff3$543d7410$e57aadd1@RobinsNest> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:50:14 +0200 To: "Robin Lionheart" From: "[V]ote-auction PR" Subject: Re: ODP: Vote-auction.com -> Vote-auction.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 49 :))) liz > > why is it, that when i look for voteauction > > in dmoz.org that i get lots of results, but > > they are all articles about voteauction, but > > i do not get the website itself? > > seems strange to me... > >Those articles were written when your site had the name voteauction.com, so >"voteauction" matches the quotes like "Voteauction.com, a site that enables >citizens to sell their votes, shut down Friday amid legal questions." > >If you did a search on "vote-auction" with the hyphen, your site would come >up as the first site match. > >If I were to tweak the description from "Founded by James Baumgartner" to >"Founded by James Baumgartner (as voteauction.com)", then in the future, >your site would come up for both searches. > >Robin From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed May 9 13:17:09 2001 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010131141948.63168.qmail@web9108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010131141948.63168.qmail@web9108.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:19:43 +0200 To: Karen Eliot From: lizvlx Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: voteauction.cx = 62.116.31.68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 50 the entries are all set up. thanx liz >when ready please email me at karen@antimedia.net > >, karen > >--- lizvlx wrote: > > hi aaron > > > > can ya do the dns entries for voteauction.cx? > > > > pls,thanx,best > > liz > > > > > > > > > hi > > > > > > > > the election's all over now, > > > > > > > > but maybe you can still use > > > > > > > > www.voteauction.cx = www.vote-auction.cx = 62.116.31.68 > > > > > > > > if you want to set up yr dns i will redirect them > > > > > > > > congratulations on another great stunt > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > karen > > > > > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . : ::ubermorgen.com:: : . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . .if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere!. . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . > > . > > . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > uberDISCLAIMER 01 :: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . .the contents of this email, and any attachments, are . . > > . .CONFIDENTIAL and intended only for the person[s] to whom. . > > . .they are addressed:: if you have received the email in. . . > > . .error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it . > > . .from your computer system:: do not copy or distribute it. . > > . .or disclose its contents to any person:: unless otherwise . > > . .stated, the views and opinions expressed in this email are. > > . .personal to the sender and do not represent the official. . > > . .view of the company :: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Thu Jun 28 19:18:43 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 61019 invoked by uid 4004); 4 Nov 2000 19:39:43 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.org Received: (qmail 61016 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2000 19:39:43 -0000 Received: from ws-ber1.win-ip.dfn.de (193.174.75.142) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2000 19:39:43 -0000 Received: from aip.de (marlowe.aip.de [141.33.160.1]) by ws-ber1.win-ip.dfn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA25973; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:40:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from umbra.aip.de by marlowe (4.1/SMI-4.2-apr170795) id AA21246; Sat, 4 Nov 00 20:40:14 +0100 Received: from localhost (iliya@localhost) by umbra.aip.de with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.1) id UAA03424; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:40:13 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:40:11 +0100 (MET) From: Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski To: Brian Krebs Cc: liz@ubermorgen.org Subject: Re: story questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 51 Dear Mr Krebs, actually *I* am not the really the victim here. I just happened to talk to one of the creators of voteauction.com in an open discussion here in Berlin shortly after they realized what had happened (as no official had told them). I thought it was a very interesting new move to stop the site. I am personally willing to believe that NSI/verisign is significantly biased towards accepting US court orders very quickly because of the geographic location of the company. According to my knowledge this is the first time something like this happened in this constellation although I admid that the legal background is complex. I am not affiliated to voteauction.com in any way, please write to liz@ubermorgen.org (also the cc), to contact them. Actually, I also was not entirely certain about the mentioning of "internic" as being responsible, but I quoted the press release on voteauction's website to avoid confusion. I enjoyed reading your very sound and interesting article and are glad that you managed without me! Best regards Iliya Nickelt (who should read his mail more often on weekends) Am 03.11.00 schrieb Brian Krebs: > To: Mr. Iliya Nickelt-Czycykowski > > Dear Sir, > > I'm a reporter for The Washington Post's Newsbytes.com, and I'm working on > a story about your > fiasco there w/ Internic. I had a few questions I was hoping you could > clarify. > > You say Internic yanked your site, but Internic is for all intents and > purposes dead. If anyone, > it was NSI (Network Solutions). My reading on the situation was that the > NSI's parent didn't > have a choice after a court ordered the corporation to shut the site down > b/c it was clearly > in violation of state (possible federal) law. > > However, your latest message to Declan et. al. seems to indicate you feel > like the victim here, > or that NSI or whomever has done something wrong or perhaps engaged in > censorship. > Please tell me if I have mischaracterized your views on this subject, and > correct me where you > think I'm mistaken. > > Thanks for your time on this. I have to have this story in by 5:30 EST, > just about 1.5 hours from now. > IF you could find a way to get back to me before then, I'd be most > grateful. I realize we are on very > different time schedules, tho. > > Thanks for your help. > > Brian Krebs > Newsbytes.com > 703-465-4400 > > -- | Iliya Nickelt | | Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam | | Telegrafenberg, 14473 Potsdam | | Tel. +49 331-288 2308 (Fax 2310) | From genek@pe.net Wed Nov 01 07:16:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 31642 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2000 07:16:22 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 31639 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2000 07:16:22 -0000 Received: from magnolia.pe.net (root@64.38.64.8) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 1 Nov 2000 07:16:22 -0000 Received: from keech (IP-84-128.riv.pe.net [64.38.84.128]) by magnolia.pe.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA23349 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:16:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <39FFC340.46@pe.net> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:16:16 -0800 From: Eugene Keech Reply-To: genek@pe.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Back off from our democratic institutions!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 52 You say your web page is owned by "an Austrian holding company?" Since when do you have any rights to tempt American voters to violate voter's registration laws and use their citizenship right to vote to merely sell out for money to some "high bidder?" Voting is not a business! It is the function in our republic to choose our own leaders, UNINFLUENCED BY PREDATORS SEEKING TO MAKE A BUSINESS OUT OF TEMPTING CITIZENS TO ILLEGALLY "SELL" THEIR VOTE!" Hopefully, the proper police authorities established to protect our nation from such outside intervention will soon be on your case and you will find yourself in hot water! Get out of our internal affairs!!! An American honest voter From voteforfreedom@yahoo.fr Thu Nov 02 14:38:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43152 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 14:38:11 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43149 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 14:38:09 -0000 Received: from web10703.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.211) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 14:38:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20001102143809.6021.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.178.77.43] by web10703.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 02 Nov 2000 15:38:09 CET Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:38:09 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?=20?= Subject: Censure américaine To: pier@lbdsun.epfl.ch, yves@lbdsun.epfl.ch, abdel@lbdsun.epfl.ch, ndesir@mandanet.ch, hkudelski@nagra-kudelski.ch, Florian_Kehlstadt@logitech.com, all@fbwww.epfl.ch, sat@satmail.epfl.ch, all@balelec.ch Cc: pr@[62.116.31.68], civis@europarl.eu.int MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 53 [english version below] Ce qui se passe actuellement est extrêmement grave ! Vous avez sans doute tous entendu parler du projet ECHELON qui est une atteinte à la sphère privée et à la protection des données, mais plus grave encore dans l'échelle du dictat: la censure unilatérale qu'exercent les Etats-Unis sur Internet. J'en veux pour preuve l'affaire voteauction.com (http://62.116.31.68/). (au passage, un site voterauction.com est apparu pour soutenir la campagne de Bush ... y'a pas de petit profits !) Le site hébergé en autriche a été censuré par une décision unilatérale des Etats-Unis (détails: http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm). On peut bien entendu remettre en cause la valeur du contenu du site qui est un pied-de-nez à la démocratie américaine, mais doit-on pour autant accepter que les USA exercent un droit de regard, de contrôle et enfin de censure comme seul arbitre mondial, selon l'exemple des gouvernements les plus totalitaires ? Ne serait-il pas temps que les instances européennes prennent les mesures qui s'imposent pour garantir un minimum de démocratie sur le net, à commencer l'établissement de racines DNS européennes ! Si vous pensez aussi qu'Internet ne doit pas être contrôlé par le cow-boy américain, envoyez donc un mail à la commission Européenne pour qu'ils reagissent: mailto:civis@europarl.eu.int et diffusez ce mail plus loin ... [English] What's going on is a very big threat. You have probaly heard from ECHELON, which is a threat to world's privacy, but now we have much more serious matter: worldwide censorship applied unilaterally by USA, as proven by what happened to http://62.116.31.68/ This site has been DNS censored by US institutions, even if hosted in Europe/Austria. (details: http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm) Even if we might not approve the content of this site, can we accept the Internet beeing ruled without any concertation by the Big Western CowBoy ? Isn't it time now for European Politicians to work on this to warrant some democracy on the Internet, first by setting a DNS root in Europe, under European control ? If you think so, send them a mail: mailto:civis@europarl.eu.int and spread around this e-mail ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Pour dialoguer en direct avec vos amis, Yahoo! Messenger : http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com From Philippe.Rochat@epfl.ch Thu Nov 02 16:46:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43773 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 16:46:52 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43770 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 16:46:51 -0000 Received: from mail0.epfl.ch (128.178.50.57) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 16:46:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 16618 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 16:47:20 -0000 Received: from lbdpc11.epfl.ch (HELO phrochat) (128.178.77.43) by mail0.epfl.ch with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 16:47:20 -0000 From: "Philippe Rochat" To: , , , , , , , , , Cc: , , , Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Censure_am=E9ricaine_V1.1?= Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:47:11 +0100 Message-ID: <004001c044ec$8ca0c150$2b4db280@phrochat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20001102143809.6021.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 54 Addendum: tout s'explique avec l'editorial de Jean-Christophe Camuset et Bruno de La Perrière: http://www.internetactu.com/accueil.html Après le grouvernement, les procédes d'une république bananière : [english version below] Ce qui se passe actuellement est extrêmement grave ! Vous avez sans doute tous entendu parler du projet ECHELON qui est une atteinte à la sphère privée et à la protection des données, mais plus grave encore dans l'échelle du dictat: la censure unilatérale qu'exercent les Etats-Unis sur Internet. J'en veux pour preuve l'affaire voteauction.com (http://62.116.31.68/). (au passage, un site voterauction.com est apparu pour soutenir la campagne de Bush ... y'a pas de petit profits !) Le site hébergé en autriche a été censuré par une décision unilatérale des Etats-Unis (détails: http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm). On peut bien entendu remettre en cause la valeur du contenu du site qui est un pied-de-nez à la démocratie américaine, mais doit-on pour autant accepter que les USA exercent un droit de regard, de contrôle et enfin de censure comme seul arbitre mondial, selon l'exemple des gouvernements les plus totalitaires ? Ne serait-il pas temps que les instances européennes prennent les mesures qui s'imposent pour garantir un minimum de démocratie sur le net, à commencer l'établissement de racines DNS européennes ! Si vous pensez aussi qu'Internet ne doit pas être contrôlé par le cow-boy américain, envoyez donc un mail à la commission Européenne pour qu'ils reagissent: mailto:civis@europarl.eu.int et diffusez ce mail plus loin ... [English] What's going on is a very big threat. You have probaly heard from ECHELON, which is a threat to world's privacy, but now we have much more serious matter: worldwide censorship applied unilaterally by USA, as proven by what happened to http://62.116.31.68/ This site has been DNS censored by US institutions, even if hosted in Europe/Austria. (details: http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm) Even if we might not approve the content of this site, can we accept the Internet beeing ruled without any concertation by the Big Western CowBoy ? Isn't it time now for European Politicians to work on this to warrant some democracy on the Internet, first by setting a DNS root in Europe, under European control ? If you think so, send them a mail: mailto:civis@europarl.eu.int and spread around this e-mail Ph.R. From fgurry@wipo.org Sun Nov 05 18:12:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66448 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 18:12:57 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 66445 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 18:12:57 -0000 Received: from aurora.balcab.ch (213.200.1.126) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 18:12:57 -0000 Received: from jamesbond3 (102.catv19.balcab.ch [213.200.19.102]) by aurora.balcab.ch (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA03742; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:13:16 +0100 (MET) From: "Francis Gurry" To: Cc: , , , Subject: WIPO Office of Legal and Organization Affairs Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:15:40 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 55 Dear Mr. Regan On November 1, Network Solutions (NSI) shut down the domain vote-auction.com without warning or explanation to the owner (Luzius A. Bernhard). This is clearly illegal and the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) will take adequate leagal steps against NSI to reverse this descision. As legal representant of WIPO I request you kindly to reanable the domain within five (5) business days. If NSI doesn't comply in the given time period, further legal steps will be taken. The foregoing is without prejudice to any right, remedy, claim or defense otherwise available to us under the circumstances, all of which are expressly reserved. We look forward to hearing from you at your very earliest opportunity. Kind regards, Francis Gurry Assistant Director General and Legal Counsel WIPO Geneva, Switzerland ------ DISCLAIMER: Any e-mail messages from WIPO Switzerland are sent in good faith, but shall not be binding nor construed as constituting any obligation on the part of the Organization. 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From rlionheart@operamail.com Sun Nov 05 20:56:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 67622 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 20:56:12 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 67619 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 20:56:07 -0000 Received: from marcie.uplink.net (HELO uplink.net) (209.173.80.3) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 20:56:07 -0000 Received: from RobinsNest (pawilk-apx1b-97.tnt.uplink.net [209.173.121.98] (may be forged)) by uplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA05201 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:57:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <012001c0476a$f870a050$a378add1@RobinsNest> From: "Robin Lionheart" To: Subject: Fw: Voteauction.com shut down Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:57:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 56 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Lionheart" To: "RTMark" ; Sent: Sunday, 05 November, 2000 3:25 PM Subject: Voteauction.com shut down > > 3: On November 1, to circumvent this approach, Network Solutions, without > > warning and in clear violation of international law, removed > > Vote-auction.com from its root servers (the computers that provide domain > > information to all others). It is unknown who requested this action, and > > under what authority Network Solutions feels justified in performing it. > > Andy Mueller-Maguhn, a newly-elected director of ICANN, the non-profit > > corporation responsible for all internet domains, agreed this was an > > illegal move and said "I guess we will have to do something about this." > > > > In response to Network Solution's attack, the Voteauction team has begun > > gathering Vote-auction and Voteauction domains around the world and is > > calling on other domain owners to point their domains or sub-domains to > > http://62.116.31.68, the Voteauction IP (IP addresses are not dependent on > > domain name registrars or on Internic). If you have a domain or sub-domain > > that you can point to http://62.116.31.68, please do so and forward the > > information to mailto:pr@[62.116.31.68] to be added to a list of > > supporters. > > OK. Last week I created an Open Directory category > http://dmoz.org/Society/Activism/Media_Activism/Culture_Jamming/Vote_Auction > s/ to cover the issue. I've updated the Vote-auction.com listing to point to > http://62.116.31.68/. > > Personally, I think the site is an excellent satire and that NSI is > exceeding its purview (again). So, I've added a subdomain to my personal > domain. voteauction.robinlionheart.com now points to 62.116.31.68. > > Robin Lionheart > From fk@bln.de Sun Nov 05 22:58:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 68417 invoked by alias); 5 Nov 2000 22:58:35 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 68414 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2000 22:58:35 -0000 Received: from reserve.combox.de (HELO anubis.combox.de) (194.162.192.6) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2000 22:58:35 -0000 Received: from bln.de (fk.bln.de [194.162.193.219]) by anubis.combox.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10203 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:59:35 +0100 Message-ID: <3A05E642.4CEED31F@bln.de> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:59:14 +0100 From: Frank Kunkel Organization: Media Service Berlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: Spin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 57 Hello. wouldn't it be the time to relaunch Brian Springers "Spin" about the last US american presidential election campaign? In case you are not familiar with this one of my favourite video doku's please choose this link at the Open Video Archive (http://ova.zkm.de) Direct Link: http://ova.zkm.de/perl/ova-raplayer?id=927167636&base=ova.zkm.de Best Frank From jnm@rom.fr Mon Nov 06 00:17:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 69100 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 00:17:58 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 69097 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 00:17:58 -0000 Received: from front7m.grolier.fr (195.36.216.57) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 00:17:58 -0000 Received: from [195.36.152.205] (nas6-242.nic.club-internet.fr [195.36.152.242]) by front7m.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id BAA26561 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:18:58 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: jnm@mail2.rom.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light F3.1.1l Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:22:00 +0200 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] From: JNM Subject: mon soutien , de france Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 58 I vote for your work! try to buy the DN in a another language: "vote-aux-encheres-aux-USA" is the french translation of "vote auction in the USA". You can buy it here for 10$ : www.gandi.com Democracy always wins. JN From jnm@rom.fr Mon Nov 06 00:20:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 69126 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 00:20:30 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 69123 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 00:20:30 -0000 Received: from front4m.grolier.fr (195.36.216.54) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 00:20:30 -0000 Received: from [195.36.152.205] (nas6-242.nic.club-internet.fr [195.36.152.242]) by front4m.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id BAA20926 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:21:11 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: jnm@mail2.rom.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light F3.1.1l Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:24:32 +0200 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] From: JNM Subject: mon soutien , de france (error on the registrar) Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 59 You can buy it here, in France, for 10$ : www.gandi.net JN From sethm@motherbrain.retronet.net Mon Nov 06 20:57:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 81228 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 20:56:59 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 81225 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 20:56:59 -0000 Received: from mercury.squeep.com (HELO motherbrain.retronet.net) (216.112.97.80) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 20:56:59 -0000 Received: (from sethm@localhost) by motherbrain.retronet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01884 for pr@[62.116.31.68]; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:03:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:03:39 -0800 From: Seth To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: Redirect to 62.116.31.68 Message-ID: <20001106130339.A1872@loomcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 60 Hello, I own retronet.org and retronet.net, and have added DNS entries for "vote-auction.retronet.net" and "vote-auction.retronet.org", both pointing to 62.116.31.68. I also added MX entries for each, so you may want to handle email destined for "vote-auction.retronet.net" and "vote-auction.retronet.org". Good luck! You have my support. -Seth Morabito sethm@loomcom.com From alvar.freude@merz-akademie.de Tue Nov 07 04:15:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 87397 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 2000 04:15:16 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 87394 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 04:15:16 -0000 Received: from 73.ptr.merz-akademie.de (HELO student.merz-akademie.de) (195.226.105.73) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 04:15:16 -0000 Received: from merz-akademie.de (news.merz-akademie.de [195.226.105.70]) by student.merz-akademie.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14835 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 05:16:03 +0100 Message-ID: <3A0782E4.1F9794FF@merz-akademie.de> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 05:19:48 +0100 From: Alvar Freude Organization: http://www.online-demonstration.org/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" Subject: Re: [V]ote-auction announces END-RESULTS :: PRESS-RELEASE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 61 > -------------------------------------------------------- > > [V]ote-auction announces END-RESULTS of GRAND AUCTION > > -------------------------------------------------------- Supercool! :-))) Ciao Alvar From alex.burns@disinfo.net Tue Nov 07 09:47:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 90012 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 2000 09:47:47 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 90009 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 09:47:47 -0000 Received: from gutmans.chek.com (HELO mailrelay1.chek.com) (208.197.227.23) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 09:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 739 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 09:49:01 -0000 Received: from viebrock.chek.com (208.197.227.194) by mailrelay1.chek.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 09:49:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21251 invoked by uid 99); 7 Nov 2000 09:46:38 -0000 Date: 7 Nov 2000 09:46:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20001107094638.21250.qmail@viebrock.chek.com> From: "Alex Burns" To: pr@[62.116.31.68], voteauction@rtmark.com X-Originating-IP: [131.172.4.45] Subject: Re:Corporate vote-buying OK, satire not OK. Does alex.burns@disinfo.net agree? Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 62 Dear RTMark, Top work! I've done a story for Disinfo.com here: http://www.disinfo.com/disinfo?p=folder&title=Capitol+Punishment%3A+Does+Voteauction%2Ecom+Subvert+Democracy%3F We're about to launch an updated site, so this will have a different URL in a few days. Regards, Alex Burns -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |d|i|s|i|n|f|o|r|m|a|t|i|o|n| http://www.disinfo.com/ Alex Burns - Editor -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From Philippe.Rochat@epfl.ch Tue Nov 07 11:36:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 90916 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 2000 11:36:29 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 90913 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 11:36:26 -0000 Received: from mail0.epfl.ch (128.178.50.57) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 11:36:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1778 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 11:37:41 -0000 Received: from lbdpc11.epfl.ch (HELO lbdpc11) (128.178.77.43) by mail0.epfl.ch with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 11:37:41 -0000 From: "Philippe Rochat" To: "'PR [V]ote-auction.com'" Subject: RE: [V]ote-auction announces END-RESULTS :: PRESS-RELEASE Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:37:39 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c048af$22a4b470$2b4db280@lbdpc11> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 63 What has core.ch to do with this ?? For what I've seen on their website, they are publishing an intranet software: corenet, and I can't see what this has to do with you. Have they been hired by some US administration to do the dirty job or ? Another point is about ICANN you are citing: i've found last week and article explaining that this commitee is in complete Illegal position, i.e. the commitee should have been elected, but is under control by american citizen only (do they sold the votes ?) ... you might find the article here (sorry, it's in french): http://www.internetactu.com/accueil.html Regards, Ph.R. P.S: By the way, you site is down again ... you seem to be really in the middle of an eletronic war ;-) I juste hope this mail will sometimes reach you. > -----Original Message----- > From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 4:56 AM > To: PR@[62.116.31.68] > Subject: [V]ote-auction announces END-RESULTS :: PRESS-RELEASE > > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > [V]ote-auction announces END-RESULTS of GRAND AUCTION > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Vienna/Berlin, November 7th, 2000, 5am CET > > > Below is the latest press release by [V]ote-auction: > > http://62.116.31.68 > http://www.voteauction.de / realname: voteauction > [formerly Vote-auction.com and Voteauction.com]. > > > You can also find this press release at > http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm > > For any further information feel free to contact > pr@[62.116.31.68] or in urgent cases call our > ubermorgen.com hotlines: > > berlin +49-175-2066954 > vienna +43 676 9300061 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > It's different because it's fundamentally different: > > [V]ote-auction http://62.116.31.68 > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > [V] Intro > > [V]ote-auction, the election industry leader, is proud to > annnounce the end-results of the grand - or, perhaps more > accurately, notorious - [V]ote-auction GAME. > > Many participants acted as if they had actually considered it a > real business; in fact, it was indeed a real-life game for voters > who finally had found a way to think about what their vote is > worth on the free market; and to themselves. > > For us, the operators, it turned out to be less of a action- > service and more of a legal rollercoaster. > > > [V] Game? Street Theatre? Comic? Business? > > Lots has been said about how to distinguish between a real business > and a cartoon in a sunday newspaper: > http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram > > Most of these nice sayings are true for the offline world - but on > the net, things are different. > > Whether or not one likes it, the net is NOT a commercial playground > a priori. It is an open space for ANY communication needs between > any people. If you think it is hard to know for sure if our site > was a game or a business, well, then that's a good lesson you have > learned. Try any web-site and try to check out if they are > for "real", > here a small test-environment: > > http://yesrudy.com > http://gatt.org > http://rtmark.com/gwbush/ > http://www.fpo.at > http://www.microsoft.com > > There is no last page with cartoons on the net. That is why > it is called an interlinked system and not a book. > > You'd better learn the differenciate now! If not, you might > fall for a real prank one day! > > > [V] Who is suing whom? > > legal platform coming soon: http://www.ipnic.org > < the nic is the content is the user is the net > > > Here an excerpt of the current situation: > > . Massachussetts is suing vote-auction and our providers > reason: "selling votes" > status: injunction order > > . Missouri is suing vote-auction and our providers > reason: "false promises to consumers" > status: injunction order > > . Chicago Board of Elections is suing vote-auction and our providers > reason: "selling and buying of votes" > status: injunction order > > . Various "investigations" by Attorney Generals > reason: diverse > status: unknown > > . [V]ote-auction is suing CORE in switzerland > reason: breach of contract, damages, denial of service > status: preparation > > It seems that we are witnessing the birth of a new sub-genre > of action-art: DIGITAL LEGAL ART. appearantly it is even not so > much the end-user in front of the terminal to whom we appeal > most, but the people in U.S. legal offices... very sexy! > > Nevertheless, we are sure that the cases will be dropped, as > it will be obvious, even to the legal folk, that there are > people out there buying and selling votes - but that it is > not us. We just gave you the showcase. The real dealers do > their businesses quite openly in Washington. Vive la difference! > > > [V] Campaigning for our rights > > We would like to thank our partners for giving us the support > we need and enjoy. To those who despise us: Thank you also! > > We regard negative and positive feedback alike as active > support and intelligent modes of communication. > > To those who think that we have now given up: Come on! We > have all had our fun. Now, let's face reality. The net is, > at the time, NOT a free place. It is directly and indirectly > controlled by U.S. courts of all names. The root zone is > basically owned by the U.S. Ministry of Commerce [well, then > maybe the Chicago Board of Elections should have sued the > Ministry of Commerce]. > > If they decide to halt the internet tomorrow, then it is Nike > time - they just do it! Cynical? No. Realistic. Or should ICANN > bring Capitalism and DemoCRAZY closer together? Or maybe even > CORE? > > So... if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere! > > > [V] What is new on the Site > > We have opened our site and data to the public, so everyone > can see for him or herself what is happening. Feel free to > access the user database - and do not be surprised to find > no personal data. Asking for data at the frontdesk does not > necessarily imply storing it in the backoffice... > > What you can find is the socio-demographics of everybody > who dared to play [V]ote-auction. If you ask yourself if the > numbers are real - that is an intelligent question - but has > never been answered on the net. Neither can we answer it. > > You will have to be quick to access the site - we will put > it into real legal context by November 8th. > > When the game is over, the players have to go home! > > > > [V] Statistics [Nov. 7th 2000, 3am CET] > > [] polls > > International poll: National poll: > 63.3% gore 45.0% gore > 14.3% bush 44.1% bush > 22.4% nader 10.9% nader > > Vote-auction legal or illegal: > 75.3% legal > 09.4% illegal > 15.3% dont know > > Would you rather go voting if you got paied for it: > 70.0% yes > 30.0% no > > > [] Global media quick-stats > > Topic: numbers % > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > Mailingslists/newsgroups: 13,765 articles 75% > Online-magazines: 898 articles 19% > Print-magazines: 258 articles 03% > Print-newspapers: 812 articles 24% > TV-segments: 147 reports 03% > Radio-segments: 231 reports 05% > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > Press-archive under: http://62.116.31.68/news.htm > > > [] Supporter quick-stats > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > Emails received in the last 9 days 2451 > Support sites 213 > Attorneys offering their services 11 > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > > [] Legal quick-stats > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > Civil-lawsuits filed against [V]ote-auction > and related individuals and companies 18 > General Attorney investigations running 15 > Lawsuits by vote-auction against corenic.org 01 > Legal documents received by postal services > or via Fax [approx. 250 pounds] 112 kg > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > > > [V] Credits > > James Baumgartner > ubermorgen.com > RTMark.com > SILVER SERVER / sil.at > enemy.org > joker.com > hell.com > thinkfactory.de > pixelmassaker.com > cnn.com > etoyACTION.com > ACLU.org > > For a list of support web-sites > http://62.116.31.68/news.htm#support > > > [V] Final note > > We wish all 3 candidates the best of luck for Election Day, > and may the guy with the best looks - oops, sorry, the > best ideas and intentions - win. > > Goodbye to you, you have been a great audience! > > For the Vote-auction team > > lizvlx hans_extrem > the-woman-behind the-guy-who-gets-sued > > [V]ote-auction > “To be or not to be! Just do it!" > > > > PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction via > web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: > > pr@[62.116.31.68] > http://62.116.31.68 > > > We will not be able to receive messages sent to any of > the old addresses. Thank you. > > > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > [] [] > [] [V]ote-auction [] > [] [] > [] pr@[62.116.31.68] [] > [] [] > [] The Election Industry Leader - Bringing [] > [] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] > [] [] > [] _brought to you by ubermorgen.com [] > [] [] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > From vik@econz.co.nz Tue Nov 07 22:31:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 1136 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 2000 22:31:13 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 1132 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 22:31:11 -0000 Received: from econz.co.nz (HELO router.econz.co.nz) (202.27.194.58) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 22:31:11 -0000 Received: from econz.co.nz (IDENT:vik@vik.econz.co.nz [202.20.92.61]) by router.econz.co.nz (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA8BVsA04494 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:31:54 GMT Sender: vik@router.econz.co.nz Message-ID: <3A0882DF.AFD63F7C@econz.co.nz> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 11:31:59 +1300 From: vik@router.econz.co.nz Reply-To: vik@router.econz.co.nz Organization: ECONZ Ltd. http://econz.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: New domains for you Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 64 I've set you up as voteauction.penguinpowered.com and vote-auction.penguinpowered.com as dynamic DNS, so even if the IP has to change I can still get you there. I do not own the penguinpowered.com domain but I am a legitimate user of its DNS services. I suggest that you create your own (free!) account on http://www.justlinux.com and notify me when you have done so. I will then delete the names I have reserved and you can recreate them under your own control instantly. If you want publicity, submit the story and the new addresses to http://www.slashdot.org if you've not already done so. Vik :v) From dave@3dogz.com Tue Nov 07 22:52:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 1610 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 2000 22:52:40 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 1606 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 22:52:40 -0000 Received: from mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.40) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 22:52:40 -0000 Received: from [24.112.164.198] by mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001107225353.EQLV9421.mail1.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.164.198]> for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:53:53 -0800 Date: 07 Nov 00 17:53:54 -0500 From: Dave at 3Dogz Subject: wha? To: pr X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Dave at 3Dogz Disposition-Notification-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <20001107225353.EQLV9421.mail1.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.164.198]> Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 65 Hey, did you guys buy out hell.com or something? Last time I was there, it = looked cool and had a slick design, but your site is bland and makes = little sense with the previous hell. com, so basically what I wanna know = is, what the hell? Regards, Dave Gouveia From olivia@blueridge.net Wed Nov 08 04:49:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 5304 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 2000 04:49:56 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 5301 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2000 04:49:56 -0000 Received: from genesis.blueridge.net (205.152.121.3) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2000 04:49:56 -0000 Received: from blueridge.net (rc2-062.blueridge.net [205.152.120.62]) by genesis.blueridge.net (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) with ESMTP id eA85njI14050 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3A08CD0B.4E42E45A@blueridge.net> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 23:48:35 -0400 From: Phylis Collier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" Subject: Re: [V]ote-auction announces END-RESULTS :: PRESS-RELEASE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 66 Check out our website: www.votescam.com we've enjoyed your work hope you enjoy ours. PR [V]ote-auction.com wrote: > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > [V]ote-auction announces END-RESULTS of GRAND AUCTION > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Vienna/Berlin, November 7th, 2000, 5am CET > > Below is the latest press release by [V]ote-auction: > > http://62.116.31.68 > http://www.voteauction.de / realname: voteauction > [formerly Vote-auction.com and Voteauction.com]. > > You can also find this press release at > http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm > > For any further information feel free to contact > pr@[62.116.31.68] or in urgent cases call our > ubermorgen.com hotlines: > > berlin +49-175-2066954 > vienna +43 676 9300061 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > It's different because it's fundamentally different: > > [V]ote-auction http://62.116.31.68 > ------------------------------------------------------- > > [V] Intro > > [V]ote-auction, the election industry leader, is proud to > annnounce the end-results of the grand - or, perhaps more > accurately, notorious - [V]ote-auction GAME. > > Many participants acted as if they had actually considered it a > real business; in fact, it was indeed a real-life game for voters > who finally had found a way to think about what their vote is > worth on the free market; and to themselves. > > For us, the operators, it turned out to be less of a action- > service and more of a legal rollercoaster. > > [V] Game? Street Theatre? Comic? Business? > > Lots has been said about how to distinguish between a real business > and a cartoon in a sunday newspaper: > http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram > > Most of these nice sayings are true for the offline world - but on > the net, things are different. > > Whether or not one likes it, the net is NOT a commercial playground > a priori. It is an open space for ANY communication needs between > any people. If you think it is hard to know for sure if our site > was a game or a business, well, then that's a good lesson you have > learned. Try any web-site and try to check out if they are for "real", > here a small test-environment: > > http://yesrudy.com > http://gatt.org > http://rtmark.com/gwbush/ > http://www.fpo.at > http://www.microsoft.com > > There is no last page with cartoons on the net. That is why > it is called an interlinked system and not a book. > > You'd better learn the differenciate now! If not, you might > fall for a real prank one day! > > [V] Who is suing whom? > > legal platform coming soon: http://www.ipnic.org > < the nic is the content is the user is the net > > > Here an excerpt of the current situation: > > . Massachussetts is suing vote-auction and our providers > reason: "selling votes" > status: injunction order > > . Missouri is suing vote-auction and our providers > reason: "false promises to consumers" > status: injunction order > > . Chicago Board of Elections is suing vote-auction and our providers > reason: "selling and buying of votes" > status: injunction order > > . Various "investigations" by Attorney Generals > reason: diverse > status: unknown > > . [V]ote-auction is suing CORE in switzerland > reason: breach of contract, damages, denial of service > status: preparation > > It seems that we are witnessing the birth of a new sub-genre > of action-art: DIGITAL LEGAL ART. appearantly it is even not so > much the end-user in front of the terminal to whom we appeal > most, but the people in U.S. legal offices... very sexy! > > Nevertheless, we are sure that the cases will be dropped, as > it will be obvious, even to the legal folk, that there are > people out there buying and selling votes - but that it is > not us. We just gave you the showcase. The real dealers do > their businesses quite openly in Washington. Vive la difference! > > [V] Campaigning for our rights > > We would like to thank our partners for giving us the support > we need and enjoy. To those who despise us: Thank you also! > > We regard negative and positive feedback alike as active > support and intelligent modes of communication. > > To those who think that we have now given up: Come on! We > have all had our fun. Now, let's face reality. The net is, > at the time, NOT a free place. It is directly and indirectly > controlled by U.S. courts of all names. The root zone is > basically owned by the U.S. Ministry of Commerce [well, then > maybe the Chicago Board of Elections should have sued the > Ministry of Commerce]. > > If they decide to halt the internet tomorrow, then it is Nike > time - they just do it! Cynical? No. Realistic. Or should ICANN > bring Capitalism and DemoCRAZY closer together? Or maybe even > CORE? > > So... if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere! > > [V] What is new on the Site > > We have opened our site and data to the public, so everyone > can see for him or herself what is happening. Feel free to > access the user database - and do not be surprised to find > no personal data. Asking for data at the frontdesk does not > necessarily imply storing it in the backoffice... > > What you can find is the socio-demographics of everybody > who dared to play [V]ote-auction. If you ask yourself if the > numbers are real - that is an intelligent question - but has > never been answered on the net. Neither can we answer it. > > You will have to be quick to access the site - we will put > it into real legal context by November 8th. > > When the game is over, the players have to go home! > > [V] Statistics [Nov. 7th 2000, 3am CET] > > [] polls > > International poll: National poll: > 63.3% gore 45.0% gore > 14.3% bush 44.1% bush > 22.4% nader 10.9% nader > > Vote-auction legal or illegal: > 75.3% legal > 09.4% illegal > 15.3% dont know > > Would you rather go voting if you got paied for it: > 70.0% yes > 30.0% no > > [] Global media quick-stats > > Topic: numbers % > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > Mailingslists/newsgroups: 13,765 articles 75% > Online-magazines: 898 articles 19% > Print-magazines: 258 articles 03% > Print-newspapers: 812 articles 24% > TV-segments: 147 reports 03% > Radio-segments: 231 reports 05% > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > Press-archive under: http://62.116.31.68/news.htm > > [] Supporter quick-stats > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > Emails received in the last 9 days 2451 > Support sites 213 > Attorneys offering their services 11 > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > > [] Legal quick-stats > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > Civil-lawsuits filed against [V]ote-auction > and related individuals and companies 18 > General Attorney investigations running 15 > Lawsuits by vote-auction against corenic.org 01 > Legal documents received by postal services > or via Fax [approx. 250 pounds] 112 kg > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- > > [V] Credits > > James Baumgartner > ubermorgen.com > RTMark.com > SILVER SERVER / sil.at > enemy.org > joker.com > hell.com > thinkfactory.de > pixelmassaker.com > cnn.com > etoyACTION.com > ACLU.org > > For a list of support web-sites > http://62.116.31.68/news.htm#support > > [V] Final note > > We wish all 3 candidates the best of luck for Election Day, > and may the guy with the best looks - oops, sorry, the > best ideas and intentions - win. > > Goodbye to you, you have been a great audience! > > For the Vote-auction team > > lizvlx hans_extrem > the-woman-behind the-guy-who-gets-sued > > [V]ote-auction > “To be or not to be! Just do it!" > > PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction via > web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: > > pr@[62.116.31.68] > http://62.116.31.68 > > We will not be able to receive messages sent to any of > the old addresses. Thank you. > > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > [] [] > [] [V]ote-auction [] > [] [] > [] pr@[62.116.31.68] [] > [] [] > [] The Election Industry Leader - Bringing [] > [] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] > [] [] > [] _brought to you by ubermorgen.com [] > [] [] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] From eran@er3.com Fri Nov 10 20:11:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 22939 invoked by alias); 10 Nov 2000 20:11:52 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 22936 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2000 20:11:44 -0000 Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (205.188.156.49) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2000 20:11:44 -0000 Received: from tot-mtc-ta.proxy.aol.com (tot-mtc-ta.proxy.aol.com [64.12.105.1]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA11724 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from er3.com (ACAB951E.ipt.aol.com [172.171.149.30]) by tot-mtc-ta.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id eAAKD0V16784; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:13:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A0C56C4.4AC02D02@er3.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:12:52 -0500 From: Eran Redick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68], admin@rtmark.com, pr@62.116.31.68 Subject: elector gifts? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Aren1@aol.com Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 67 Greetings, How about a new focus for vote auction, since the voting is over? What about donating, money to electors to change their vote as a gift? The electors were given the position of elector as a gift from their party, now why can't they trade that gift in for a cash gift? A few changed elector votes could change the Presidential outcome. There is enough anger and concern about this election that this idea might generate some serious interest/controversy/publicity. What do you think? Eran er3.com From admin@er3.com Sat Nov 11 16:36:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 28294 invoked by alias); 11 Nov 2000 16:36:20 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 28291 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2000 16:36:20 -0000 Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.160) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2000 16:36:20 -0000 Received: from tot-we.proxy.aol.com (tot-we.proxy.aol.com [205.188.195.1]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id LAA05498 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:37:38 -0500 (EST) From: admin@er3.com Received: from er3.com (ACA53C4C.ipt.aol.com [172.165.60.76]) by tot-we.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id eABGbaJ29813 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:37:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A0D75C9.E102E75B@er3.com> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:37:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: pointing to your IP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Aren1@aol.com Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 68 vote.er3.org pointing to your IP From edis.cafe@aon.at Mon Nov 27 11:13:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 28763 invoked by alias); 27 Nov 2000 11:13:05 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 28760 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2000 11:13:05 -0000 Received: from warsl401pip3.highway.telekom.at (HELO email02.aon.at) (195.3.96.75) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2000 11:13:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 2123324 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2000 11:17:11 -0000 Received: from n007p029.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO piii733) ([213.33.0.221]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail2.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Nov 2000 11:17:11 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c05863$b1533200$8c00000a@piii733> From: "edis.cafe" To: Cc: Subject: the latest development Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:17:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0586C.12C3ADA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 69 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0586C.12C3ADA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sir, Greatly intrigued by your venture. My name is Dominic Hipkins and I am a = freelance journalist living In Austria. Would be interested in an = interview withyou regarding freedom of speech etc, with the aim of = speedy publication in the UK. My number is 0664 782 8437 . Please mail me. Yours sincerely. D.Hipkins =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0586C.12C3ADA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Sir,
Greatly intrigued by your venture. = My name is=20 Dominic Hipkins and I am a freelance journalist living In Austria. Would = be=20 interested in an interview withyou regarding freedom of speech etc, with = the aim=20 of speedy publication in the UK.
My number is 0664 782 8437 . = Please mail=20 me.
Yours sincerely.
D.Hipkins   
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0586C.12C3ADA0-- From max.victory@eurobell.com Tue Nov 28 16:35:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 32322 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 2000 16:35:32 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 32319 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2000 16:35:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ntscramhex01.eurobell.com) (212.24.86.2) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2000 16:35:32 -0000 Received: by ntscramhex01.eurobell.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:38:46 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Victory To: "'pr@[62.116.31.68]'" Subject: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:38:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 70 I'm in the UK and I think this is a marvelous idea- the wealthiest wins an election through cascading their wealth to the people directly- fantastic. cheers Max ---------------------------------------- Eurobell (Holdings) PLC, Registered in England No 02904215 Registered Office: Eurobell House, Churchill Court, Manor Royal, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 2PN Tel (National): 01293 400444, Tel: (International) +44 1293 400444 This message is subject to and does not create or vary any contractual relationship between Eurobell (Holdings) PLC, its subsidiaries or affiliates ("Eurobell") and you. Internet communications are not secure and therefore Eurobell does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any view or opinions expressed are those of the author. The message is intended for the addressee only and its contents and any attached files are strictly confidential. If you have received this message in error, please telephone the number above. ---------------------------------------- From drs45@netzero.net Sat Dec 09 18:22:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 68357 invoked by alias); 9 Dec 2000 18:22:01 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 68354 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2000 18:22:00 -0000 Received: from mail7.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.57) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2000 18:22:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 26656 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2000 18:28:01 -0000 Received: from dialup-209.244.84.164.washington2.level3.net (HELO gpb9q) (209.244.84.164) by mail7.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 9 Dec 2000 18:28:01 -0000 Message-ID: <00f201c0620d$88c850a0$369dd73f@gpb9q> From: "David R Smith" To: Subject: A Question Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:23:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C061E3.3E4A48A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 71 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C061E3.3E4A48A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sir, I found your website at = http://vote-auction.robinlionheart.com/index00.htm here in the US. Am I = being redirected to your true location in Europe? Also, are the = end-results correct in Bid-Check?=20 Thank you. David ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C061E3.3E4A48A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sir, I found your = website at http://vote-a= uction.robinlionheart.com/index00.htm here=20 in the US.  Am I being redirected to your true location in = Europe? =20 Also, are the end-results correct in Bid-Check?
 
Thank you.
David
------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C061E3.3E4A48A0-- ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ From jrothman@webrise.net Sat Dec 16 12:07:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 73039 invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2000 12:07:50 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 73036 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2000 12:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO backup.safepages.com) (216.127.146.2) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2000 12:07:48 -0000 Received: from webrise (05-039.050.popsite.net [64.24.145.39]) by backup.safepages.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 781EF709C5 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:21:21 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Joel Rothman" To: "[V] ote-auction. com (E-mail)" Subject: FW: EFFector 13.11: Fair Use Rights Harmed by DMCA; Pioneer Awards CFN Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 07:17:10 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c0675a$26569560$0501000a@webrise.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 72 I would like to nominate you and anyone else instrumental in putting together voteauction.com for the 2001 EFF Pioneer awards. Please read the info below. If you agree to be nominated I will need the info EFF requires in order to submit the nomination. Joel B. Rothman Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. 2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West Boca Raton, FL 33431 561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com http://www.seidenlaw.com NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: owner-effector@eff.org [mailto:owner-effector@eff.org]On Behalf Of EFF Newsletter Editor Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:06 PM Subject: EFFector 13.11: Fair Use Rights Harmed by DMCA; Pioneer Awards CFN EFFector Vol. 13, No. 11 Dec. 13, 2000 editor@eff.org A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation ISSN 1062-9424 IN THE 159th ISSUE OF EFFECTOR (now with over 25,900 subscribers!): * DMCA Takes Full Effect - Millions of Americans Become Criminals * Call for Nominations: The Tenth Annual International EFF Pioneer Awards + Intro + The 2001 Awards + How to Nominate Someone + Past Pioneers of the Electronic Frontier + About EFF * Administrivia For more information on EFF activities & alerts: http://www.eff.org _________________________________________________________________ DMCA Takes Full Effect - Millions of Americans Become Criminals By Robin D. Gross, November 2000 Librarian of Congress Unable to Preserve Fair Use in Digital Age On October 28, 2000 the controversial Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) took full effect, criminalizing the act of circumvention of a technological protection system put in place by a copyright holder -- even if one has a fair use right to access that information. Maximum penalties allow up to 10 years in prison or $1 million fine for willful violators of the new law. This dramatic change in copyright law should serve as a wake-up call for all Americans that their First Amendment rights are rapidly eroding in the digital realm. Ignited by the copyright industry, this legislative trend is spreading through national legislative bodies around the world like wild fire. The DMCA outlawed making or providing tools that could be used to circumvent technological protection systems when the legislation was first enacted in 1998. Another provision of the DMCA banned the act of circumvention, although it did not take effect until two-years later. Congress directed the Register of Copyrights to conduct a rulemaking procedure during the interim and recommend to the Librarian of Congress classes of works that should be exempted from the general ban against circumvention because people were likely to be adversely affected in their ability to make lawful uses of works. During the course of its proceeding the Copyright Office received an incredible 392 written comments from the public and heard testimony from 34 witnesses on the subject. Despite the repeated requests for exemptions from those who need to circumvent in order to exercise their legal fair use rights such as library, educational, and civil liberties groups, the Librarian's final rule only exempted two narrow circumstances in which one will be allowed to circumvent. This leaves the vast majority of the public's fears unaddressed with little choice but to seek help from Congress or the courts. In making its determination, Congress directed the Register to consult with the Assistant Secretary for Communications and Information in the Department of Commerce. The Assistant Secretary recommended an exemption analogous to fair use based upon a factual examination of the uses to which works are put. In a letter to the Register presenting his views, the Assistant Secretary stated that his principal concern is to ensure that the Librarian will preserve fair use principles in this new digital age. He echoed the fears of the Commerce Committee that a legal framework may be developing that would "inexorably create a pay-per-use society." He stated that the "right" to prohibit circumvention should be qualified in order to maintain a balance between the interests of content creators and information users, by means of carefully drawn exemptions. Despite the Assistant Secretary's recommendation for a use-based exemption, the Copyright Office ultimately rejected it as "beyond the scope of the Librarian's authority." Librarian's Two Narrow Exemptions Ignore Majority of Public's Concerns On the recommendation of the Register of Copyrights, the Librarian of Congress James Billington announced two narrow classes of works exempted from the DMCA's prohibition on circumvention of technological measures that control access to copyrighted works. 1. Compilations consisting of lists of Web sites blocked by filtering software applications. The first exemption, while narrow in scope, addresses one real and specific danger created by the DMCA's blanket ban on circumvention: the criminalization of decrypting lists of Web sites blocked by content filtering software. The ruling stated that the reproduction or display of the lists for the purpose of criticizing them could constitute fair use. Citing the controversial injunction issued in Microsystems Software, Inc. v. Scandinavia Online AB, No. 00-1503 (1st Cir. Sept. 27, 2000) ("Cyber Patrol case") the Librarian recognized the public's legitimate interest in accessing the lists of Web sites in order to critique, comment and criticize them. According to the Librarian: "A persuasive case was made that the existence of access control measures has had an adverse effect on criticism and comment, and most likely news reporting, and that the prohibition on circumvention of access control measures will have an adverse effect ... on noninfringing users since persons who wish to criticize and comment on them cannot ascertain which sites are contained in the lists unless they circumvent." The public has a significant First Amendment interest in exploring the scope and reliability of content filtering software. The Librarian should be commended for crafting an exemption that addresses this particular danger caused by the DMCA. Unfortunately, this exemption only covers a tiny fraction of the public's needs to circumvent while the vast majority of legitimate fair uses remain criminalized. 2. Literary works, including computer programs and databases, protected by access control mechanisms that fail to permit access because of malfunction, damage or obsolescence. The Librarian recognized the adverse impact from the DMCA's general ban on circumvention "in cases where legitimate users are unable to access works because of damaged, malfunctioning, or obsolete access controls." Explaining the rationale for the second exemption, the Librarian stated, "the access controls are not furthering the purpose of protecting the work from unauthorized users. Rather, they are preventing authorized users from getting the access to which they are entitled." This prevents non-infringing uses that could otherwise be made. The Librarian found "this situation is particularly troubling in the context of libraries and educational institutions." The Librarian's second exemption is intended to exempt users of software, databases, and other literary works in digital formats who are prevented from accessing such works because the access control protections "are not functioning in the way that they were intended." A 'dongle' or hardware lock attached to a computer that prevents unauthorized access to software is an example of the type of access control that can be circumvented under the ruling. Access controls may only be considered obsolete where a machine necessary to perceive a work is no longer made or commercial available. While attempting to correct failures in the statute's broad prohibition, this final exemption is only applicable in a few narrow circumstances and ultimately falls far short of adequately protecting the public's interests. The Librarian's impotence in issuing exemptions is particularly disturbing since he declared that this exemption is "probably the outer limits of a permissible definition of 'class'." Librarian Asks Congress For Clarification on DVDs The Librarian rejected all other requests for exemptions from the public seeking relief from the DMCA's harsh penalties. Most notably absent was an exemption for DVDs, which would have allowed Linux users (among others) to view their DVDs on non-standard machines without fear of criminal prosecution. According to the Librarian, "More comments and testimony were submitted on the subject of motion pictures on DVDs and the technological measures employed on DVDs, primarily Content Scrambling System (CSS), than on any other subject in this rulemaking." During the course of the proceeding, the Electronic Frontier Foundation submitted official Comments (initial, reply, and post-hearing) and testified at the public hearings requesting that the Librarian exempt DVD movies protected by CSS from the DMCA's circumvention ban. Even though Congress banned circumventing access controls, it did not intend to prevent circumvention for legal use. DVDs protected by CSS bypass Congress' intent by merging the access and use control together into one technological protection system that prevents fair use altogether. To its credit, the Librarian recognized the "significant concern" presented by the "merger of access and use controls" that CSS represents: "The merger of technological measures that protect access and copying does not appear to have been anticipated by Congress. Congress did create a distinction between the conduct of circumvention of access controls and the conduct of circumvention of use controls by prohibiting the former while permitting the latter, but neither the language of section 1201 nor the legislative history addresses the possibility of access controls that also restrict use. It is unclear how a court might address this issue. It would be helpful if Congress were to clarify its intent, since the implementation of merged technological measures arguably would undermine Congress's decision to offer disparate treatment for access controls and use controls in section 1201." Despite this recognition of a significant problem, the Librarian meagerly tossed the ball back to Congress to fix the mess it created by the sloppy statute. Although charged with primarily ensuring the public's fair use rights continue in the digital realm, the Librarian acquiesced to the demands of the copyright industry who repeatedly threatened that it would not 'create' if its conditions for control over the architecture were not met and who's only objective is to maximize revenue from creative expression by creating a pay-per-use society. Consequently, the DMCA has deformed copyright law to only advance the narrow interests of a few corporations at the expense of the broader public good. The Librarian mis-characterized the lack of an open source Linux DVD player in the marketplace as a "problem of preference and inconvenience" not warranting an exemption. The public is under no legal obligation to view DVDs only on machines pre-approved by the movie studios or according to the viewing restrictions of a CSS license. Moreover, the entire open source development model, which is currently fueling the bulk of technological innovation, is dependent upon having the ability to adapt software to customize for one's own specific needs. In dismissing the DVD exemption, the Librarian stated: "While it does not appear that Congress anticipated that persons who legitimately acquired copies of works should be denied the ability to access these works, there is no unqualified right to access works on any particular machine or device of the user's choosing." What the Librarian fails to recognize, however, is the distinction between an "unqualified right" to access a work on another machine, and the DMCA's criminalization of the act of building a new device that allows access to a work that one legally owns. "That which is not prohibited is generally allowed." Consequently, the public will have fewer rights in the digital realm than it enjoyed in traditional space to use and access information. Additionally, the statute paves the way for stifling innovation, restricting competition, and fostering a breeding ground for monopolistic business practices in the market for DVD players and other devices. One of most popular reasons cited as needing to circumvent DVDs was in order to bypass the restrictive region-coding scheme incorporated in CSS where DVDs purchased in one part of the world will not play on DVD players manufactured in another part of the world. Despite the extraordinary public outcry, the Librarian dismissed this concern as merely an "inconvenience" not warranting an exemption. Astonishingly, the fact that the region coding restrictions correlate with the movie studios' contractual divisions of the world was cited as a "legitimate purpose" served by legally enforcing the restrictions. The degree of deference given to the business plans of a select few multinational corporations when writing legislation to govern how information may be accessed in a democracy is frightening. Congress and Courts Must Intercede to Preserve Fair Use and Free Expression The implementation of technological protections that deny society its due in the copyright right bargain combined with the DMCA's criminalization of attempts to bypass those restrictions prevents copyright from ever achieving its Constitutional objectives to promote the progress of science and useful arts. The balance continues to tip even further in favor of the movie and record companies at the expense of individuals' rights and freedom of expression. Now that the Copyright Office has punted, Congress and the courts will be forced to repair the imbalance in the law created by the DMCA and its criminalization of exercising media rights in the digital realm. RELATED LINKS: Librarian of Congress and Copyright Office Final Report (October 28, 2000): http://www.loc.gov/copyright/fedreg/65fr64555.html Letter from Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information, conveying the views of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration on DMCA Rule-making (September 29, 2000) http://www.loc.gov/copyright/1201/commerce.pdf American Library Association Statement on Copyright Office Ruling: "Fair use in the digital age reduced to nothing more than a hollow promise..." http://www.ala.org/washoff/dmca.html Statement of U.S. Rep. Rick Boucher on Copyright Office Ruling and Fair Use Rights: http://www.house.gov/boucher/docs/payperuse.htm EFF's Initial Comments to U.S. Copyright Office on DMCA (February 17, 2000): http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/20000217_eff_dmca_comments.html EFF's Reply Comments to U.S. Copyright Office on DMCA (March 31, 2000): http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/20000331_eff_dmca_reply_comments.html EFF's Testimony Before U.S. Copyright Office on DMCA (May 19, 2000): http://www.virtualrecordings.com/EFFtestimony.htm EFF's Post-Hearing Comments to U.S. Copyright Office on DMCA (June 23, 2000): http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/20000623_eff_dmca_dvd_comments.html _________________________________________________________________ Seeking Pioneers of the Electronic Frontier Call for Nominations: The Tenth Annual International EFF Pioneer Awards Please redistribute this notice in appropriate fora. Intro In every field of human endeavor, there are those dedicated to expanding knowledge, freedom, efficiency, and utility. Many of today's brightest innovators are working along the electronic frontier. To recognize these leaders, the Electronic Frontier Foundation established the Pioneer Awards for deserving individuals and organizations. The Pioneer Awards are international and nominations are open to all. The deadline for nominations this year is Feb. 1, 2001 (see nomination criteria and instructions below). The 2001 Awards The Tenth Annual EFF Pioneer Awards will be presented in Toronto, Canada, at the 11th Conference on Computers, Freedom, and Privacy (see http://www.cfp2001.org ), Boston, MA. The ceremony will be held on the evening of Thu., March 8, 2001, at the Boston Aquarium. All nominations will be reviewed by a panel of judges chosen for their knowledge of the technical, legal, and social issues associated with information technology, some of them Pioneer Award recipients themselves. This year's EFF Pioneer Awards judges are: * Herb Brody (Senior Editor, Technology Review) * Moira Gunn (Host, "Tech Nation", National Public Radio) * Donna L. Hoffman (Associate Professor of Management, Vanderbilt University) * Peter G. Neumann (Principal Scientist, SRI Intl.; Moderator, ACM Risks Forum) * Drazen Pantic (Media & Tech. Director, NYU Center for War, Peace, & the News Media) * Barbara Simons (President, Association for Computing Machinery) * Karen G. Schneider (Technical Director, Shenendehowa Public Library, NY) How to Nominate Someone There are no specific categories for the EFF Pioneer Awards, but the following guidelines apply: 1. The nominees must have made a substantial contribution to the generation, growth, accessibility, and/or freedom of computer-based communications. 2. The contribution may be technical, social, economic, or cultural. 3. Nominations may be of individuals, teams, systems, or organizations in the private or public sectors. 4. Nominations are open to all, and you may nominate more than one recipient. You may nominate yourself or your organization. 5. All nominations, to be valid, must contain your reasons, however brief, for nominating the individual or organization, along with a means of contacting the nominee, and your own contact information. Anonymous nominations will be allowed, but we prefer to be able to contact the nominating parties in the event that we need further information about the nominee. 6. Any entity is eligible for an EFF Pioneer Award, with the exceptions of current EFF staff and board members, current Pioneer Award judges, and previous Pioneer Award recipients (unless nominated for something new and different.) 7. Honorees (or representatives of honoree organizations) receiving an EFF Pioneer Award will be invited to attend the ceremony at the Foundation's expense. You may send as many nominations as you wish, but please use one e-mail per nomination. (This is not a vote or a popularity contest, so you do not need to campaign, or send multiple nominations for the same nominee.) Submit all entries to: pioneer@eff.org Just tell us: 1. the name of the nominee; 2. a phone number or e-mail address at which the nominee can be reached; and, most importantly, 3. why you feel the nominee deserves the award. You may attach supporting documentation in plain text, or Microsoft Word or other common binary formats. URLs to documentation elsewhere may also be helpful. Past Pioneers of the Electronic Frontier 1992: Douglas C. Engelbart, Robert Kahn, Jim Warren, Tom Jennings, and Andrzej Smereczynski; 1993: Paul Baran, Vinton Cerf, Ward Christensen, Dave Hughes and the USENET software developers, represented by the software's originators Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis; 1994: Ivan Sutherland, Whitfield Diffie and Martin Hellman, Murray Turoff and Starr Roxanne Hiltz, Lee Felsenstein, Bill Atkinson, and the WELL; 1995: Philip Zimmermann, Anita Borg, and Willis Ware; 1996: Robert Metcalfe, Peter Neumann, Shabbir Safdar and Matthew Blaze; 1997: Marc Rotenberg, Johan "Julf" Helsingius, and (special honorees) Hedy Lamarr and George Antheil; 1998: Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, and Barbara Simons; 1999: Jon Postel, Drazen Pantic, and Simon Davies; 2000: Tim Berners Lee, Phil Agre, and librarians everywhere, represented by librarian Karen G. Schneider. See http://www.eff.org/awards for further information. 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You can also get, via the web: http://www.eff.org/pub/EFF/Newsletters/EFFector/current.html _________________________________________________________________ From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:41 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 18424 invoked by alias); 28 Oct 2000 22:22:36 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 18418 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2000 22:22:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.84.244.173?) 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:41 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 31848 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 00:39:36 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 31845 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 00:39:36 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.ne.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.ne.home.com) (imail@24.2.4.66) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 00:39:36 -0000 Received: from cx180090c ([24.181.211.84]) by mail.rdc1.ne.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001024003944.XWIA19282.mail.rdc1.ne.home.com@cx180090c> for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:39:44 -0700 Message-ID: <00d901c03d52$e52a4860$54d3b518@cx180090c> From: "Steve Whitcher" To: Subject: Registration section has an error Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:39:40 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 Registration section has an error
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Steve
 
From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:42 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 8232 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 17:29:02 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 8229 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 17:29:02 -0000 Received: from smtppop1pub.gte.net (HELO smtppop1pub.verizon.net) (206.46.170.20) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 17:29:02 -0000 Received: from Shawn (lsanca1-ar10-141-013.dsl.gtei.net [4.40.141.13]) by smtppop1pub.verizon.net with SMTP for ; id MAA10273493 Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:24:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Shawn Frazier" To: Subject: corruption in the united states political processe. Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:32:36 -0000 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 75 The people who want to sell their vote is good example of the alienation of the voting public. For example we had both democrat and republican national conventions where only the rich and famous special interesrts are allowed behind the chain link fences with there special passes worn around their necks thumbing their noses at us the pathetic media vierwer. we as a nation are being starved and over taxed by a corrupt governmant. this government is so corrupt that it is allowing knowingly a flood of immigrants into tis country in order to create hatred and chaos so that we can be controlled by hate crimes bills as well having our guns taken from us for the most minor of offenses. Our politicians in the mean time hide behind multimillion dollar homes in private communitties like those of sierra madria hieghts here in la and so many others throughout this country. I am an undecided voter who if it was not illegal to sell my vote would sell for profit just as our congrewssmen senators and president have sold this country to pacts special intrest groups China and whoever in the hell will give them a dollr so that they can build ther mansion on the hill send their children to private schools and drive around or use "air force won" to fly to La play latin rock to the illigals in this country from Hecho and on the east coast the cuban and black community rap and crack exploiting these racists thinking they've got it so good in this country. So more power to who ever and what ever becauase papparently 17 sailors in the middle east floating in the water proves this country is sunk or adrift listing with our politicians with saliva dripping from their mouths clammering for the next greenbacck to be handed to them from the next oil company when they shake either Al Gores or hillary clintons hand . P.S So thesis money making capotilist or whatever good luck because one thing I know for sure GOD know longer blesse this now third world country. Thank you Michael Frazier of covina the most honest person nad best con in the world. 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You can reach me via this email address or on my cell phone at (603) 860-3111. It will be interesting to discuss this matter with you. Scott W. Flood, President iBallot.Com 746 Chestnut Street Manchester, NH 03104 (800) 545-9604 SFlood@iBallot.Com Http://www.iBallot.Com (the complete voting, surveying or testing solution) From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:44 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 20271 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 19:05:05 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 20268 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 19:05:04 -0000 Received: from saga22.stanford.edu (171.64.15.152) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 19:05:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sanagol@localhost) by saga22.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08418 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: saga22.Stanford.EDU: sanagol owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Shrikant Anagol To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: economics of vote auctions Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 77 hello, my name is santosh anagol i ama junior studying economics at stanford university. the idea of a free market for political votes occurred to me a few weeks ago, and i was excited to find your website (a professor of mine linked me to it). Anyway, i wanted to ask you if you were familari with economics literature on this subject. i have done some reading on voting schemes ( plurality, unanimous etc.)but the free market idea seems to be diferent. i am thinking of writing a a fairly theoretical paper on this idea as to the gains in efficiencies frome this sort of market, and any help you could give me on previous studies or past societies that have used this sort of system would be great. thanks for you time. santosh From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:44 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 12674 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 22:39:46 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 12671 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 22:39:45 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc2.mi.home.com (HELO mail.rdc2.mi.home.com) (24.2.68.68) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 22:39:45 -0000 Received: from cc113325a ([24.0.58.59]) by mail.rdc2.mi.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001024223942.DMKT4372.mail.rdc2.mi.home.com@cc113325a> for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:39:44 -0700 From: "Phiber OPtik" To: Subject: By the Way... Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:33:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 78 Just an addition to my previous email. I live in Michigan, if that makes any difference. I'm ready to offer my vote! reply to: phiberoptik@yahoo.com From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:45 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 19733 invoked by alias); 29 Oct 2000 03:49:16 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 19730 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2000 03:49:15 -0000 Received: from unicorn.it.wsu.edu (michaels@134.121.1.1) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 29 Oct 2000 03:49:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (michaels@localhost) by unicorn.it.wsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11306 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Charles Schneider X-Sender: michaels@unicorn.it.wsu.edu To: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" Subject: Re: Think you are smart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 79 Well it doesn't matter what the world t hinks o fthe US elections. The basic purpose of holding elcetions in the US fo rthe US is so that we can govern ourselves. I know some people in the media who are gonna love that you are trying to hijack an election. I hope you have the money its gonna take when this goes public. Hve a nice week. Michael On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, [V]ote-auction.com PR wrote: > > dear michael, > > glad you are getting back to us. > > basically, the whole world is interested > in the american elections. > > why? very basic reason: the u.s. is - among > other things - very often acting as the world > police. now, one might regard this as bad > or good. but either way, the u.s. is > politically and finacially investing in the > whole world, and therefore the whole world > is interested in the new "manager" to be > elected into washington. > > the world is a small place after all... :) > > best > lizvlx > > >What is Germanies interest in our political elections? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: [V]ote-auction.com PR > >To: Michael C Schneider > >Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 9:20 AM > >Subject: Re: Think you are smart > > > > > >> > >> dear michael, > >> > >> thank you for sharing your opinion with us. > >> > >> it is the so many differnet opinions > >> which make our world this interesting > >> place! > >> > >> concerning your advice for goint to russia: > >> as we are currently not even in the u.s., > >> but in east-berlin - i guess from your > >> standpoint we are in russia anyhow. > >> > >> best > >> lizvlx > >> > >> >Well this is illegal to buy and sell votes, not only is it illegal > >> >but its immorral, unethical, unamerican, and just flat out wrong. > >> >Its another sorry attempt by the liberals to cheat this country out > >> >of its American Heritage. Why don't you people go to Russia I'm sure > > > >you'd like their system better. You worthless peices of SHIT > >> > > -- > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:45 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 10117 invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2000 23:31:54 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 10114 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 23:31:53 -0000 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (HELO imo-r07.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.7) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 23:31:53 -0000 Received: from MatthewWOW@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id x.b8.d01e2e2 (3877) for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:31:26 -0400 (EDT) From: MatthewWOW@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:31:25 EDT Subject: Re: What's my vote worth? To: pr@vote-auction.com X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 80 Thanks LIZ ! I am registered as a voter. I will wait for your information on SUNDAY! Thanks for helping bring FREE ENTERPRISE to the Republic! :) , MATTHEW From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:45 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 1231 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 08:46:34 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 1228 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 08:46:34 -0000 Received: from test.big-netz.de (HELO kreta.sofha.de) (root@195.126.133.135) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 08:46:34 -0000 Received: from [128.0.0.169] ([128.0.0.169]) by kreta.sofha.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04483 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:51:26 +0200 Message-Id: <200010240751.JAA04483@kreta.sofha.de> Subject: Missing "-" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:47:07 +0200 x-sender: marc@sofha.sofha.de x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Marc Stibane To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 81 in the dialog: Thank you for registering your vote with voteauction.com. /\ BTW: You should definitely have an email-address "webmaster@vote-auction.com", so web-related stuff could be sent there. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:46 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 13927 invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2000 14:27:27 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 13924 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 14:27:25 -0000 Received: from law2-f16.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.16) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 14:27:25 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:27:02 -0700 Received: from 38.197.222.162 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:27:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [38.197.222.162] From: "Kiley Sullivan" To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Re: A couple questions Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:27:02 CDT Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2000 14:27:02.0792 (UTC) FILETIME=[F95A5880:01C04021] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 82 Thank you anyway! You have been very kind to answer my questions so quickly! I hate to ask, but I have thought of just a couple more questions. This is the end. I promise. As we get closer to Election Day, I began to wonder: when does the bidding end? And how is it possible to verify how the voter votes? I know you say that is the responsibility of the winning bidder to make those arrangements, but I've been researching this and I don't know how they could verify this information. I am very sorry to be such a bother, but there is little information out there about you and your endeavor, or even anything like it! Thank you again, for being so kind as to answer my questions! Kiley ----Original Message Follows---- From: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" To: "Kiley Sullivan" Subject: Re: A couple questions Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:55:20 +0200 dear kiley, no, we do not keep this on record. sorry. best lizvlx >Dear lizvlx: >Thank you so much for your quick reply! You have been a great help. >However, I beg to differ with you on the age question. First, >statistically the "type" of person that is participating in this is >VERY important. Second, you DO in fact ask for age. I saw it where >people sign up to "request donations". You don't keep this on >record? >Thank you again! >Kiley > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" >To: "Kiley Sullivan" >Subject: Re: A couple questions >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:15:07 +0200 > > >dear kiley, > >thanks for the email. > >and, here is a madam... > >nice to see that some people in political >and system theory are thinking about what >we are doing. > >we are not asking for age, as in the >voting process age is such an important >factor. this is why we want to ignore >this factor. > >and then, most people are not honest concerning >their age anyway, so we thought, better forget >about it at all. > >abd it would be great to receive a copy of your >paper, yo! > >bestz >lizvlx > >>Dear Sirs, >>I am sure with all of the recent legal attention, you are being >>inundated with questions and requests. I must say I am fascinated >>by your endeavor. In fact, so much so, I am incorporating your site >>in my thesis on the modern political campaign process. I have >>already received offers to publish the draft of my paper in a couple >>popular political magazines here in the US. I am revising my paper >>to incorporate [V]ote-auction.com and the legal issues you are >>facing. One very important piece of information is missing in your >>User Statistics page: What is the age variation on your registered >>voters? You show gender, occupation, education, race, etc. but not >>age. Any reason why? Could you please share that information with >>me for the sake of my paper? It is very important. I would, of >>course, be happy to send you a copy of the paper before publication, >>if you would like. >>Thank you in advance for your help. >>Kiley Sullivan >>_________________________________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. >> >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >-- >. . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. -- . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:46 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 27715 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 20:59:05 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 27712 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 20:59:04 -0000 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.22) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 20:59:04 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (ip85.dallas49.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.36.52.85]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06579 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010252059.NAA06579@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:59:05 -0500 Subject: advertising your site From: "Ken Savage" To: pr@vote-auction.com X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 83 I work for a company the represents 27 statewide news networks across the country. We run 60 second commercials inside the news broadcasts to all our radio station affiliates across each state. Please give me a call if you are interested. We can still get you on the air. We can get you on in your target states in 48 hours as long as there are spots available. Call me at StateNets Radio Sales 972-931-1099 Hope to hear from you--Ken Savage From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:47 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 4789 invoked by alias); 30 Oct 2000 08:56:54 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 4786 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2000 08:56:53 -0000 Received: from pop.gmx.net (HELO mail.gmx.net) (194.221.183.20) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 30 Oct 2000 08:56:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23965 invoked by uid 0); 30 Oct 2000 08:56:25 -0000 Received: from pc19eb3b4.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO piii500) (193.158.179.180) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 30 Oct 2000 08:56:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c0424f$571c5ca0$b4b39ec1@piii500> From: "Josef Stakemeier" To: Cc: "Spiess Michael" , "Gastinger Markus" Subject: my-vote.de Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:56:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 84 Sehr geehrter Herr Bernhard, über n-tv habe ich von Ihrem Geschäftsansatz mit www.vote-auction.com erfahren. Mein Name ist Josef Stakemeier und ich begleite die Firma my-de beim Aufbau eines Verbundes von Internetmarktplätzen. Unter anderem beabsichtigt die my-de auch das Thema Meinungsumfragen, Stimmenabgaben, etc. über das Internet mit my-vote.de zu bearbeiten. Für dieses Geschäftsfeld der my-de werden entsprechende Business Partner mit branchenerfahrung bzw. technologischen Lösungen gesucht. Als ersten Marktplatz hat die my-de das Geschäftsfeld my-hardware.de online geschaltet. Um mehr über die my-de zu erfahren, schauen Sie bitte unter www.my-hardware.de nach. Bei Interesse Ihrerseits würden wir uns über ein Gespräch mit Ihnen freuen. mit freundlichen Grüßen Josef Stakemeier Privat: Bgm.-Grandauer-Str. 17 83052 Bruckmühl Tel: 0 80 62 - 7 80 03 Fax: 0 80 62 - 7 80 04 Email: stakemeier@gmx.de Geschäftlich: Siemens Finance & Leasing Seidlstr. 22 - 24 80335 München Tel: 089 - 636 35681 Fax: 089 - 636 35605 Email: josef.stakemeier@sfl.siemens.de Mobil: 0170 - 4 56 90 51 ------------------------------------------------------------- From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:47 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 26842 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 19:56:32 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 26839 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 19:56:31 -0000 Received: from cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com (HELO smtp.email.msn.com) (207.46.181.19) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 19:56:31 -0000 Received: from Dave - 64.55.138.73 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:56:57 -0700 Message-ID: <000801c03ebd$60599ac0$0200000a@Dave> From: "jmcleary1" To: Subject: Donation Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:54:24 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Return-Path: jmcleary1@email.msn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 85 Donation
I offered a donation of $8400 yesterday for Massachusetts.  Your site does not relect my offer as the high offer.  Is this site legitimate and why isn't it updated to reflect the most recent offers.
 
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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:48 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 9889 invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2000 23:08:48 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 9886 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 23:08:48 -0000 Received: from sm4.texas.rr.com (root@24.93.35.211) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 23:08:48 -0000 Received: from cs16777-198.austin.rr.com (cs16777-198.austin.rr.com [24.167.77.198]) by sm4.texas.rr.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e9QN8tQ31784 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:08:55 -0500 Received: by cs16777-198.austin.rr.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C03F77.CBD0F0E0@cs16777-198.austin.rr.com>; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:08:51 -0500 Message-ID: <01C03F77.CBD0F0E0@cs16777-198.austin.rr.com> From: Jennifer Loraine To: "'[V]ote-auction.com PR'" Subject: RE: Your legal position Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:08:50 -0500 Return-Receipt-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 86 Dear Bernhard, Allow me to congratulate you! I was not aware that the legal boundaries and powers of the city of Chicago includes the entire country of Austria. What are they planning to do? Parachute police into your country to serve a city warrant from Chicago. You are making a great statement about International law and the Internet. The whole world is watching! I think that you are a great fighter for Internet freedom for everyone in the world. Those of us who love freedom are watching intently. Not all Americans are as stupid as the lawyers for the city of Chicago. The Americans who love freedom applaud you and your fight for freedom! Regards, Jenn -----Original Message----- From: [V]ote-auction.com PR [SMTP:pr@vote-auction.com] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:48 AM To: Jennifer Loraine Subject: Re: Your legal position dear jennifer, vielleicht waere es besser sie wuerden sich fuer eine sprache entscheiden? best lizvlx >Herr Bernhard, > >Allow me my congratulations give! That the city of Chicago includes >the entire country of Austria true not is, nicht wahr? Parachute >troops of Chicago Polizi upon you they perhaps planning dropping >are? A great statement to the world about the Internet and >International law you making are! The whole world watches! American >cities or the U.S. Federal Government not the Internet does own! You >a great fighter for freedom are! We who love freedom to you are >on-looking. Even Americans for you applaud! > >Danke Shön, >Frau Jennifer Loriane >Auf Texas, USA -- . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:50 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 34703 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2000 17:51:34 -0000 Received: from cslsun1.csl-gmbh.net (HELO core.nrw.net) (194.245.101.94) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 1 Nov 2000 17:51:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28344 invoked by uid 60003); 1 Nov 2000 17:52:16 -0000 Date: 1 Nov 2000 17:52:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20001101175216.28343.qmail@core.nrw.net> From: info@joker.com To: liz@ubermorgen.com Subject: order: 173124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 87 order: 173124
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Es folgt der Teil des Vertrages in deutscher Sprache, danach folgt der Teil in enlischer Sprache. Beide gehšren zusammen und sind nicht zu trennen.

First you find the german part of the agreement, below you find the english part. Both are to be considered as one piece.

1   Vertragsgegenstand - object of agreement
1.1 Computer Service Langenbach GmbH (CSL), mit Sitz in DŸsseldorf registriert unter der Top- Level-Domains (TLD) .com , ..net , .org durch Internet Councel of Registrars (CORE), mit Sitz in Genf, Schweiz, Second-Level-Domain (SLD) im Auftrage des Kunden.
1.1 Computer Service Langenbach GmbH (CSL), located in DŸsseldorf - Germany, will register second-level-domains (SLD) under the top-level-domains (TLD) .com , .net , .org through Internet Councel of Registrars (CORE), located in Geneva, Swizerland.
1.2 Die Domain und die dazugehšrenden zusŠtzlichen Angaben werden in Datenbanken aufgenommen und interessierten Personen zum Zwecke der FunktionalitŠt des Internet zur VerfŸgung gestellt.
1.2 The domain and all related data will be stored in data-bases and be available for internet-related inquiries.
1.3 Der Kunde akzeptiert auch eine Teillieferung falls eine oder mehrere Domains nicht registriert werden kšnnen.
1.3 In case the customer intended to register more then one domain and not all could be registered, he will accept those which could be registered.
1.4 CORE ist durch Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), mit Sitz in Californien, USA , anerkannter Registrar und handelt gemŠ§ dem Vertrag mit ICANN.
1.4 CORE is accredited by Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), located in California, USA and acts accordingly.

2     Laufzeiten - life of contract
2.1 Der Vertrag wird auf unbestimmte Zeit geschlossen. Er kann mit einer Frist von 10 Tagen zum Ende des Monats gekŸndigt werden. Die KŸndigung mu§ schriftlich erfolgen.
2.1 The duration is open ended. The contract can be finished by giving notice 10 days before the end of a month. The notice must be written.
2.2 Die Domain wird beim Erstantrag fŸr die Dauer von 1 bis 10 Jahren, Ihren Wünschen entsprechend, registriert.
2.2 A new domain will be registered for 1 to 10 years, according to your choise.
2.3 Bei †bernahme der Domain von anderen Registrars betrŠgt die erste Laufzeit ebenfalls 1 bis 10 Jahre.
2.3 In case a domain is transfered from another registrar the renewal starts from transfer-date and is also regitered for 1 to 10 years.
2.4 Die VerlŠngerung danach ist jeweils fŸr den Zeitraum von 1 bis 10 Jahre.
2.4 Normal renewals are for 1 to 10 year.

3        VergŸtung - pricing
3.1 Die Preise der Registrierung und damit verbundenen Dienstleistung sind in der aktuellen Preisliste von CSL vom 1. Jan. 2000 veršffentlicht.
3.1 The price for domains and additional services can be found at the CSL-pricelist dated Jan 1. 2000.
3.2 Die VergŸtung ist im Voraus zu bezahlen und verfŠllt im Falle vorzeitiger KŸndigung durch eine der beiden Parteien.
3.2 All fees must be paid in advance and are not refundable in case of finishing the contract or services.
3.3 Der Kunde wird rechtzeitig ( 30 Tage ) vor VerlŠngerung auf seine Zahlungspflicht hingewiesen. Falls bis zum Jahrestag die GebŸhr nicht vollstŠndig entrichtet ist, wird die Registrierung gelšscht.
3.3 The customer will get an eMail 30 days before of renewal asking for payment. In case of no payment the domain will be deleted.

4    Rechtliche Auseinandersetzung bezŸglich des Domainnamens - Domain Name Dispute Policy
4.1 Der Kunde bestŠtigt, da§ er nicht wissentlich Namensrechte anderer verletzt.
4.1 The customer assures that he does not interfere with or infringe upon the rights of any third party.
4.2 Der Kunde erklŠrt sich einverstanden bei namensrechtlichen Auseinandersetzungen die in der Dispute Policy beschriebenen Regeln und Vorgehensweisen zu folgen und anzuwenden, diese Regeln sind Bestandteil dieses Vertrages.
4.2 You agree to be bound by the current CORE Domain Name Dispute Policy ("Dispute Policy") which is incorporated into this Agreement by reference.
4.3 Die Dispute Policy kann aus wichtigem Grunde jederzeit verŠndert werden. Die Fortsetzung der Registrierung kann nur bei Anerkennen der geŠnderten Dispute Policy stattfinden.
Falls Sie nicht einverstanden sind, kann auf Ihrem Wunsch hin die Domain gelšscht werden. 4.3 The Dispute Policy can be changed anytime for importand reasons. Your continued registration of your domain name after modification to the Dispute Policy becomes effective constitutes your acceptance of those modifications. If you do not agree to such a modification, you may request that your domain name be deleted.
5   Datenschutz - privacy of data
5.1 Der Kunde erklŠrt ausdrŸcklich, da§ die Veršffentlichung der benannten persšnlichen Daten mit Wissen der betroffenen Personen stattfindet und die Beteiligten wissen, da§ diese Daten innerhalb des Internet zu Auskunftszwecken šffentlich zur VerfŸgung stehen.
5.1 You declare that you only use personal data from persons which agreed and are aware that these data will be published in internet data-bases (like whois).

6       Schlu§bestimmungen - final
6.1 FŸr den Vertrag zwischen Kunden und CSL und dessen DurchfŸhrung gilt das Recht der Bundesrepublik Deutschland, der Gerichtsstand ist DŸsseldorf.
6.1 Governing law for the contract between the customer and CSL is the law of Germany. Any action shall be brought exclusively in the courts of Germany, located in DŸsseldorf.
6.2 AnsprŸche der Vertragspartner mŸssen nach diesem Vertrag innerhalb eines Jahres nach ihrer Entstehung gerichtlich geltend gemacht werden, andernfalls sind sie verjŠhrt.
6.2 Any claims must be made within one year of occurence, otherwise it is barred.
6.3 Sollte eine Bestimmung dieser Vereinbarung rechtsunwirksam sein oder werden, so wird die GŸltigkeit der Ÿbrigen Bestimmungen nicht berŸhrt.
6.3 In the event that any provision of this Agreement shall be unenforceable or invalid under any applicable law or be so held by applicable court decision, such unenforceability or invalidity shall not render this Agreement unenforceable or invalid as a whole.
6.4 Der Kunde erklŠrt sich damit einverstanden, da§ alle Unklarheiten oder Streitigkeiten Ÿber den Gebrauch von Domain-namen der gŸltigen dispute-policy unterliegen.
6.4 You agree that any disputes regarding the right to use your domain name will be subject to the dispute-policy.
6.5 Die nachfolgenden Bestimmungen zwischen ICANN und CORE / CSL gelten als Vertragsbestandteil und sind entsprechend anzuwenden. Dies gilt insgesonders fŸr die HaftungsbeschrŠnkung.
6.5 The following agreement between ICANN and CORE / CSL shall be part of these agreement. These includes also the Limitation of Liability.


DŸsseldorf, den 30.07.1999
CSL GmbH, Siegfried Langenbach

REGISTRATION AGREEMENT
This Registration Agreement ("Agreement") sets forth the terms and conditions of your use of the Internet Council of Registrars ("CORE") through Computer Service Langenbach GmbH ("CSL"), to register a domain name on the Internet. To complete the registration process, you must read and agree to be bound by all terms and conditions of this Agreement, the accompanying fee schedule and dispute policy, and any rules or policies that are or may be published by CORE. This Agreement will become effective if accepted by CORE. CORE is an accredited registrar with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ("ICANN") under an agreement between CORE and ICANN ("ICANN Agreement"). You acknowledge that CORE may modify this Agreement if necessary to comply with its ICANN Agreement, or otherwise.

1. Fees
As consideration for the domain name registration services provided by CORE, CSL through which your application is processes shall pay all applicable initial registration fees and renewal fees. You will be notified when renewal fees are due, and it shall be your responsibility to ensure that such fees are paid. Should these fees go unpaid by the time specified in the renewal notice, your registration will be cancelled. You agree that CORE / CSL shall have no liability whatsoever with respect to any such cancellation.

2. Dispute Policy
You agree to be bound by the current CORE Domain Name Dispute Policy ("Dispute Policy") which is incorporated into this Agreement by reference. The Dispute Policy can be found at dispute-policy. Any disputes regarding the right to use your domain name will be subject to the Dispute Policy. CORE may modify the Dispute Policy in its sole discretion at any time. Your continued registration of your domain name after modification to the Dispute Policy becomes effective constitutes your acceptance of those modifications. If you do not agree to such a modification, you may request that your domain name be deleted.
You agree that you will be subject to the provisions specified in the Dispute Policy in effect at the time your domain name is challenged by a third party. You also agree that in the event a domain name dispute arises with any third party, you will indemnify and hold CORE / CSL harmless pursuant to the terms and conditions contained in the Dispute Policy.

3. Use of Your Information
As part of the registration process, you are required to provide certain information and to update this information to keep it current, complete and accurate. This information includes (i) your full name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number, and fax number if available; (ii) the name of an authorized person for contact purposes in the case of a registrant that is an organization, association, or corporation; (iii) the IP addresses of the primary nameserver and any secondary nameservers for the domain name; (iv) the corresponding names of those nameservers; (v) the full name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number, and fax number if available of the technical contact for the domain name; (vi) the full name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number, and fax number if available of the administrative contact for the domain name; (vii) the name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number, and fax number if available of the zone contact for the domain name; and (viii) any remark concerning the registered domain name that should appear in the Whois data.

You acknowledge that willfully providing inaccurate information or willfully failing to update information promptly will constitute a material breach of this Agreement and will be a basis for cancellation of your domain name. If you license use of a domain name to a third party, you are nonetheless the holder of record of the domain name and are responsible for providing your own full contact information and for providing and updating accurate technical, administrative, and zone contact information.

You acknowledge that CORE will make some of the information that you provide during the registration process publicly available as required by ICANN. Additionally, you acknowledge that ICANN may impose guidelines, limits and/or requirements that relate to the amount and type of information that CORE may or must make available to the public or to private entities. CORE will not otherwise disclose your information to any third party unless it is required to maintain your domain name. You may request a copy of your information in CORE's possession to review, modify or update such information.

4. Use Policies
CORE reserves the right to suspend or cancel your domain name in the event that you use the domain name to send unsolicited commercial advertisements in contradiction to either applicable laws or customary acceptable usage policies of the Internet, or if you use your domain name in connection with unlawful activity.

5. Agents and Licenses
You agree that, if your domain name is registered on your behalf by anyone acting as your agent (e.g., an Internet Service Provider, employee, etc.), you are nonetheless bound as a principal by all terms and conditions provided herein, including the Dispute Policy.

You agree that if you license the use of your domain name to a third party, you re-main the domain name holder, and remain responsible for all obligations under this Agreement.

6. Limitation of Liability
YOU AGREE THAT CORE / CSL WILL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR ANY LOSS THAT MAY OCCUR DUE TO (a) ANY LOSS OF REGISTRATION OF A DOMAIN NAME, (b) THE USE OF YOUR DOMAIN NAME, (c) ACCESS DELAYS OR ACCESS INTERRUPTIONS TO CORE'S / CSL's REGISTRATION SYSTEM; (d) THE NON-DELIVERY OR MISDELIVERY OF DATA BETWEEN YOU AND CORE / CSL; (e) EVENTS BEYOND CORE'S /CSL's REASONABLE CONTROL; (f) THE PROCESSING OF THIS APPLICATION; (g) THE PROCESSING OF ANY MODIFICATION TO THE RECORD ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR DOMAIN NAME, (h) THE FAILURE OF YOU OR YOUR AGENT TO PAY ANY FEES HEREUNDER; OR (i) THE APPLICATION OF THE DISPUTE POLICY. FURTHER, CORE /CSL WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OF ANY KIND (INCLUDING LOST PROFITS) REGARDLESS OF THE FORM OF ACTION WHETHER IN CONTRACT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), OR OTHERWISE, EVEN IF CORE /CSL HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. IN NO EVENT SHALL CORE'S / CSL's MAXIMUM LIABILITY EXCEED THE TOTAL AMOUNT PAID BY YOU TO CORE / CSL FOR REGISTRATION OF YOUR DOMAIN NAME DURING THE PRIOR 3 YEARS UNDER THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. BECAUSE SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, IN SUCH STATES, OUR LIABILITY IS LIMITED TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW.

7. Indemnity
You agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless CORE / CSL and any applicable domain name registry, including Network Solutions, Inc., and the directors, officers, employees and agents of each of them, for any loss, damages or costs, including reasonable attorneys' fees, resulting from any third party claim, action, or demand related to your domain name or the use thereof. This indemnification is in addition to any indemnification required under the Dispute Policy.

8. Representations and Warranties
You represent and warrant that all information provided by you in connection with your registration is complete and accurate. CORE / CSL makes no representation or warranties of any kind in connection with this Agreement. CORE / CSL does not represent or warrant that registration of your domain name will immunize you from challenges to your domain name.

9. Breach and Revocation
Any breach by you of this Agreement or the Dispute Policy must be remedied by you within 30 days of notice by CORE / CSL. If you fail to cure the breach, CORE / CSL may revoke your registration of the domain name.

You also agree that CORE / CSL shall have the right in its sole discretion to revoke, suspend, transfer or otherwise modify a domain name registration upon seven (7) calendar days prior written notice, or at such time as CORE / CSL receives a properly authenticated order from a court of competent jurisdiction, or arbitration award, re-querying the revocation, suspension, transfer or modification of the domain name registration.

10. Governing Law
This Agreement, your rights and obligations and all actions contemplated by this Agreement shall be governed by the laws of Switzerland, as if the Agreement was a contract wholly entered into and wholly performed within Switzerland. Any action to enforce this Agreement or any matter relating to your use of the CORE site shall be brought exclusively in the courts of Switzerland located in Geneva.

11. General
This Agreement, the CORE / CSL fee schedule and the Dispute Policy, together with all amendments or modifications to any of them, constitute the complete and exclusive agreement between you and CORE / CSL , and supersede and govern all prior proposals, agreements, or other communications.

Nothing contained in this Policy shall be construed as creating any agency, partner-ship, or other form of joint enterprise between the parties. The failure of CORE / CSL to require your performance of any provision hereof shall not affect the full right to require such performance at any time thereafter; nor shall the waiver by CORE / CSL of a breach of any provision hereof be taken or held to be a waiver of the provision itself. In the event that any provision of this Agreement shall be unenforceable or invalid under any applicable law or be so held by applicable court decision, such unenforceability or invalidity shall not render this Agreement unenforceable or invalid as a whole. CORE / CSL will amend or replace such provision with one that is valid and enforceable and which achieves, to the extent possible, the original objectives and intent of CORE / CSL as reflected in the original provision. No provision of this Agreement, including the CORE / CSL fee schedule and the Dispute Policy, may not be amended or modified by you except by means of a written document signed by CORE / CSL.


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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:51 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 34809 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2000 18:10:59 -0000 Received: from cslsun1.csl-gmbh.net (HELO core.nrw.net) (194.245.101.94) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 1 Nov 2000 18:10:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 28751 invoked by uid 60003); 1 Nov 2000 18:11:40 -0000 Date: 1 Nov 2000 18:11:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20001101181140.28750.qmail@core.nrw.net> From: info@joker.com To: liz@ubermorgen.com Reply-to: info@joker.com Subject: notify: modify Domain:vote-auction.net succeeded! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 88 Dear Customer, the Data of vote-auction.net are: updated by: liz@ubermorgen.com (212.84.244.173) The holdership for domain [vote-auction.net] has not been changed, possible other modifications to the holder record have been proceeded. please inform the admin-c of vote-auction.net admin-contact-handle:803202 ns1-handle:7960 ns2-handle:7961 owner-contact-handle:803202 sld:vote-auction tech-contact-handle:803202 tld:net zone-contact-handle:803202 with regards CSL-GmbH Rathausufer 16 40213 Duesseldorf Germany From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:51 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 8639 invoked by uid 4000); 31 Oct 2000 15:15:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Oct 2000 15:15:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:15:51 +0100 (CET) From: hans_extreme To: Andreas Broeckmann cc: liz@ubermorgen.com, inke@snafu.de Subject: Re: vote-auction In-Reply-To: <973001397.39fed2b53fe1b@webmail.in-berlin.de> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 89 hi danke fuer die antwort. ich werde in dem fall zum 3.x versuchen diese email ueber die liste zu posten und gegebenenfalls kurz bei dir nach- fragen ob du checken kannst wieso es nicht geklappt hat, falls es wieder nicht durch- gehen sollte. hans On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Andreas Broeckmann wrote: > 1. die syndicate liste ist offen, und wer subskribiert ist, kann auch posten; > wer nicht, der bounct. siehe auch 2. > > 2. ich bin kein moderator. der list-owner ist eine mailbox, auf die verschiedene > leute zugreifen, wenn sie zeit haben. siehe auch 1. > > > ich hab dir bereits 2x infos ueber > > vote-auction.com geschickt, um sie ueber > > syndicate zu posten. bis jetzt ist nix > > durchgekommen. warum nicht? und sag mir > > bitte nicht die emails seien nie angekommen, > > ich habe sie sowohl an list-owner, an abroeck@v2.nl > > und an die liste direkt geschickt... > > > > > > . .if you dont get help from us,please get help somewhere! . . > > > > ja genau.. wo denn.. , ich moecht das > > von dir als list-owner wissen. ich werd > > dich dann das naechste mal im mikro/ > > ubermorgen office darauf ansprechen, > > vieleicht finden wir eine loesung wie > > das in zukunft einfacher geht. > > > > hans > > > > -- > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . : ::ubermorgen.com:: : . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . .mob +43-676-9300061. . . .ema hans@ubermorgen.com. . > > . . . . .fax +43-1-9681022. . . . .icq 38302022 . . . . . . . > > . . . . .mob +49-175-2066954 . . . .pgp 0xBA42D1B7 . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .www.keyserver.net. . . . . > > > > . .if you dont get help from us,please get help somewhere! . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > . http://www.vote-auction.com "bringing capitalism and demo- > > . crazy closer together" :: brought to you by ubermorgen.com: > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > uberDISCLAIMER 01 :: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . .:: the contents of this email, and any attachments, are . . > > . .CONFIDENTIAL and intended only for the person[s] to whom. . > > . .they are addressed:: if you have received the email in. . . > > . .error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it . > > . .from your computer system:: do not copy or distribute it. . > > . .or disclose its contents to any person:: unless otherwise . > > . .stated, the views and opinions expressed in this email are. > > . .personal to the sender and do not represent the official. . > > . .view of the company :: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > transmediale.01 - 4-11 feb 2001 - www.transmediale.de > a. broeckmann - klosterstr.68-70 - d-10179 berlin > From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:54 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 95508 invoked by uid 4004); 7 Nov 2000 17:08:39 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 95495 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 17:08:21 -0000 Received: from mail.rpi.edu (root@128.113.100.7) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 17:08:21 -0000 Received: from [128.113.172.15] (corenet-978.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.172.15]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA220780; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:09:27 -0500 X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:19:37 -0500 To: RTMark admin , net_CALLBOY From: frank guerrero Subject: Re: confidental Cc: liz@ubermorgen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 90 could put some work into this later... gotta go vote... frank At 10:28 AM -0500 11/7/00, RTMark admin wrote: >> >i think it's pretty good, but could change it a bit, and how about waiting >> >till after the election to release it? as a kind of summing up. could have >> >a phrase then like "the results are in--the campaign with millions of >> >dollars of corporate funding won" or "corporate funding won" or >> >something.... could explain the system: like "hundreds of millions of >> >dollars made their way from corporate coffers all the way to the voters, >> >via p.r. agencies and television ads. unfortunately, the voters never >> >received a penny, though their votes were bought as surely as if they had >> >been paid in cash." (that's very poorly phrased, but that sort of thing.) >> >> ok, thx for feedback, release is out. we had to >> send it out before the elections start.. couldnt >> wait, although i would have wanted to.. > >that's ok, i guess there's always time for another. i didn't get a copy of >this one, i don't think--can you send another? > >> >could really sum up the basic idea very clearly and concisely, a >> >post-election wrap-up, the media love to do that sort of thing. could try >> >to step into opinion pieces across america by coming off as experts on >> >election ethics... dunno.... >> >> exactly, this is gone happen, suggestions very >> much appreciated! if you have ammunition for this >> just drop it over and we will build it in.. > >ok, frank and i could start working on something that takes off from the >"hundreds of millions" phrase in first para maybe... > >> ok, at this point of time, have to say thank you >> very much for bringing this action/mess to us :), >> thank you very much for the collaboration, consulting >> and press.release... greetz to james if you hear him, >> i hope he and we will be invited to some panels and >> festivals, so at last i will meet him and we can >> discuss the thing and the future of it, credits, etc.. > >you're welcome! and thank YOU, it's really you who saved this mess from a >premature death--james wanted to get rid of it, and you saved it. your >nerves of steel allowed it to continue through these countless lawsuits. >it was very fun. > >take care >ray > > >> >> >r >> > >> >http://rtmark.com/ >> >Turning information resources into emotional capital. >> > >> >On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, net_CALLBOY wrote: >> > >> >> > > >unbelievably cool. this could be worse than voteauction!! >> >> >> >> >> >> hey ray >> >> >> >> ola >> >> >> >> thx a lot for the corrections.. ! >> >> i am just implementing them.. >> >> >> >> so whaddaya think ? this version >> >> just a beta.. >> >> >> >> is this a way it could be played? >> >> any better way? any input would be >> >> appreciated.. >> >> >> >> hans >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> we are just changing directions.. sort of have to.. >> >> >> hehehe... >> >> >> >> >> >> could you give us some of the best fake sites you >> >> >> know.. some of y/own, however.. just the best ones.. >> >> >> >> >> >> would be very happy if you could read our beta- >> >> >> version of the press.release and give me quick-feed- >> >> >> back.. >> >> >> >> >> >> thx: >> >> >> hans >> >> > >> >> >wow! ok, here goes: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----just beta!!!-----> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SUBJECT: [V]ote-auction announces end-results >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> [V]ote-auction announces end-results of grand auction >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> Vienna/Berlin, November 6th, 2000, 6pm CET >> >> >> >> >> >> Below you find the latest press release by [V]ote-auction: >> >> > >> >> >Below is the... >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://62.116.31.68 >> >> >> [formerly Vote-auction.com and Voteauction.com]. >> >> >> >> >> >> You can also find this press release at >> >> >> http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> For any further information feel free to contact >> >> >> pr@[62.116.31.68] or in urgent cases call our >> >> >> ubermorgen.com hotlines: >> >> >> >> >> >> berlin +49-175-2066954 >> >> >> vienna +43 676 9300061 >> >> >> >> >> >> it's different because it's absolutely different:: >> >> >> [V]ote-auction http://62.116.31.68 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [V] Intro >> >> >> >> >> >> Vote-auction, the election industry leader, is proud to annnounce >> >> >> the end-results of the grand - or acurately said - notorious >> >> > >> >> >the grand - or, perhaps more accurately, notorious - vote-auction game. >> >> > >> >> >> vote-auction game. Many acted as if they had actually considered >> >> > >> >> >Many participants acted... >> >> > >> >> >> it a real business, well, in fact it was a real-life game for >> >> > >> >> >business; in fact, it was indeed a >> > > > >> >> >> voters who finally had found a way to face what their vote was >>worth. >> >> >> And for us, the creators, it turned out to be les of a service and >> >> > >> >> >less >> >> > >> >> >> more of a legal rollercoaster. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [V] Game? Street Theatre? Comic? Cartoon? Business? >> >> >> >> >> >> Lot has been said about how to distinguish between a real business >> >> > >> >> >Lots >> >> > >> >> >> and a "cartoon in a sunday newspaper". Most of the nice sayings >> >> > >> >> >no quotes >> >> >Most of these nice sayings >> >> > >> >> >> are true for the offline world - on the net, things are different. >> >> > >> >> >- but on the net, >> >> > >> >> >> Whether or not one likes it, the net is NOT a commercial >>playground >> >> >> a priori. It is an open space for ANY communication needs between >> >> >> any people. If you think it is hard to know for sure if our site >> >> >> was a game or a business, well, then that's a good lesson you have >> >> >> learned. Try these sites and check out if you know it if they are >> >> >> for real: >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.mslinux.com >> >> >> http://www.fpo.at >> >> >> http:// >> >> > >> >> >ours: >> >> >http://yesrudy.com >> >> >http://gatt.org >> >> >http://rtmark.com/gwbush/ >> >> > >> >> >will find others >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> There is no last page with cartoons on the net. That is why >> >> >> it is called an interlinked system and not a book. You better >> >> > >> >> >You'd >> >> > >> >> >> learn the differnence now, if not, you might fall for a real >> >> >> prank. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [V] Who is suing whom? >> >> >> >> >> >> . Massachussetts is suing vote-auction and our providers >> >> >> reason: "selling votes" >> >> >> status: injunction order >> >> >> . Missouri is suing vote-auction and our providers >> >> >> reason: "false promises to consumers" >> >> >> status: injunction order >> >> >> . Chicago Board of Elections is suing vote-auction and our >>providers >> >> >> reason: "selling and buying of votes" >> >> >> status: injunction order >> >> >> . diverse "investigations" by attorney generals e.a. running >> >> > >> >> >what's e.a.? >> >> > >> >> >> reason: diverse >> >> >> status: unknown >> >> >> . Vote-auction is suing CORE in switzerland >> >> >> reason: breach of contract, damages, denial of service >> >> >> status: preparation >> >> >> >> >> >> it seems that we are witnessing the birth of a new sub-genre >> >> > > of action-art: legal art. appearantly it is even not so much the >> >> >> end-user in front of the terminal to whom we appeal most, but >> >> >> the people in u.s. legal offices... >> >> >> >> >> >> Nevertheless, we are sure that the cases will be dropped, as >> >> >> it will turned out, even to the legal folk, that there are >> >> > >> >> >as it will be obvious, even... >> >> > >> >> >> people out there buying and selling votes - but that it is >> >> >> not us. We gave you the showcase. The real dealers do their >> >> >> business in the shady rooms of expensive clubs. >> >> > >> >> >actually, they do it in the halls of power, in washington and >>elsewhere, >> >> >quite openly, in front of everyone... lobbyists and campaign funding is >> >> >entirely open... >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [V] Campaigning for our rights >> >> >> >> >> >> We would like to thank our partners for giving us the support >> >> >> we need and enjoy. To those who dispise us: Thank you also! >> >> > >> >> >despise >> >> > >> >> >> We regard negative and positive feedback alike as active >> >> >> support and intelligent moves of communication. >> >> > >> >> >modes >> >> > >> >> >> To those who think that we have now given up: Come on. We >> >> >> have all had our fun. Now, let's face reality. The net is, >> >> >> at the time, NOT a free place. It is controlled by U.S. >> >> >> courts of all names. The root zone is basically owned by >> >> >> the U.S. ministry of commerce [well, then maybe the Chicago >> >> >> Board of Elections should have sued the Ministery]. If >> >> >> they decide to halt the internet tomorrow, then it is Nike >> >> >> time - just do it! >> >> >> Zynical? No. Realistic. >> >> > >> >> >Cynical >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [V] What is new on the Site >> >> >> >> >> >> We have opened our site to the public, so every-one can see >> >> > >> >> >everyone >> >> > >> >> >> for themselves what is happening. Feel free to access the >> > > > >> >> >for him or herself what is... >> >> > >> >> >> user database - and do not be surprised to find no personal >> >> >> data. Asking for data at the frontdesk does not necessarily >> >> >> imply storing it in the backoffice... >> >> >> What you can find is the socio-demographics of everybody >> >> >> who dared to play vote-auction. If you ask yourself if the >> >> >> numbers are real - that is an intelligent question, but has >> >> >> never been answered on the net. Neither can we. >> >> >> You will have to be quick to access the site - we will put >> >> >> it offline by November 8th - when the game is over, the >> >> >> players have to go home. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [V] Final note >> >> >> >> >> >> We wish all 3 candidates the best of luck for Election Day, >> >> >> and may the guy with the best looks - oops, sorry, the >> >> >> best ideas and intentions, win. >> >> > >> >> >intentions - win. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Good bye to you, you have been a great audience! >> >> > >> >> >Goodbye >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [V] credits >> >> >> >> >> >> James Baumgartner >> >> >> SILVER SERVER >> >> >> enemy.org >> >> >> joker.com >> >> >> hell.com >> >> >> pixelmassaker.com >> >> >> cnn.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> For the Vote-auction team >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lizvlx hans >> >> >> the-woman-behind the-guy-who-gets-sued >> >> >> >> >> >> [V]ote-auction >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction via >> >> >> web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: >> >> >> >> >> >> pr@[62.116.31.68] >> >> >> http://62.116.31.68 >> >> >> >> >> >> We will not be able to receive messages sent to any of >> >> >> the old addresses. 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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:45:44 -0700 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 91 Dear Hans, Congrats on championing this great project (vote-auction.com)! One VERY IMPORTANT aspect of this concept I don't see addressed in your site. In an ordinary auction, bidders individually compete between themselves because there is only one winner, the high bidder. In your vote-auction, there is a SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE!! That is, MULTIPLE bidders win when THEIR candidate wins the auction! So WHY NOT ADD ALL THEIR BIDS TOGETHER?? This is IMPORTANT to me, as an individual investor (contributer, whatever), because by myself I don't have a realistic chance of influencing the outcome of a state's auction, but if YOU ADD MY BID TO ALL OTHERS bidding for the sake of the same candidate, we've got a REAL GAME! Also, of course, the payoff to all those offering their votes will be all the greater! I see no flaws in this proposal, perhaps you can point out why not to do this. Looking forward to your response (or seeing this implemented at vote-auction.com!) Regards, Eric Foster From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:56 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 3742 invoked by alias); 30 Oct 2000 01:05:27 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 3739 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2000 01:05:26 -0000 Received: from relay02.valueweb.net (216.219.253.236) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 30 Oct 2000 01:05:26 -0000 Received: from smtp.valueweb.net ([207.36.123.48]:26899 "EHLO smtp.valueweb.net") by relay02.valueweb.net with ESMTP id ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:05:23 -0500 Received: from ACAC6D97.ipt.aol.com ([172.172.109.151]:63748 "HELO 0018259153") by smtp.valueweb.net with SMTP id ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:05:15 -0500 From: "election" To: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" Cc: , Subject: RE: electionauction.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:05:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 92 Hi, My name is Damian Guzzi, owner of ElectionAuction.com Will ElectionAuction.com be in competition with you? No I don't think so.. I am open to all offers, partnership opportunities, and thensome : ) As far as ElectionAuction.com goes, I am still trying to figure out what shall be the main services and features. As much as I would like to have a venue for vote buying and selling as your site does, I cannot go that route (at this time)unless I had the website served/hosted out of US jurisdiction, naturally. I live in NY. With that said, I would much rather find some sort of legal loophole which perhaps I can do auctions for 'soft money', or voter info, mailer lists, campaign supplies, etc. Anything pertaining to an election is what I want to cover with the auction website. Even if it is 'morally wrong', I don't care. I want to generate business and income a.s.a.p. with a large site. Until I work out the major stuff, I can always hold auction for 'election memorabilia' or junk like that. If I have to get foreign hosting for the critical stuff, then that's what I may do before any implement any 'questionable' auctions. ; ) Right now I have several different website projects Im trying to get started on top of ElectionAuction.com. ElectionAuction.com will not be ready till sometime in 2001 because I am waiting on my CGI script affiliate to release an all new auction/reverse auction/barter cgi script within a few months. Until then, I am researching what I can about election and vote laws, international laws, and different ways I can implement the site so EVERYONE benefits from it ... voters, candidates, political parties, whoever. Of course I want to turn a nice profit at the same time. There is much to think about it. Lots of stuff I can do with this website, so right now I am just thinking everything out (doing the same with the other projects I want to start). I understand what your website is about and I have read some of the legal woes you have had, as well as the history of VoteAuction.com. I had saw a CNN interview and I said to myself that an auction site dealing with elections would be great, if it is implemented right with the right features and services. If you feel that we can partner in any way, let me know, I'm all ears. If you have an idea, I can definitely help with it. - Damian G. -----Original Message----- From: [V]ote-auction.com PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 12:56 PM To: info@spacevibe.com Subject: electionauction.com hi there so you wanna compete against us, or partner up? tellme whats the deal... best lizvlx -- . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:56 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 8296 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 17:30:46 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 8293 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 17:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cb-exc.coolboard.com) (209.191.76.50) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 17:30:46 -0000 Received: by CB-EXC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:24:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Park To: "'pr@vote-auction.com'" Subject: Message Board Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:24:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 93 Hello, I just read about your site on ZDNet and went to your site. I noticed that you don't have a message board area on your site. If you'd like to use a great free message board service, you should check out coolboard.com (http://www.coolboard.com). We provide one of the best, customizable message boards on the Net. Regards, David --------------------------------------------- David Park President/CTO CoolBoard.com, Inc. 544 Golden Gate, Suite 200 San Francisco, CA 94110 (415) 627-9000 x1012 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:56 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 14148 invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2000 15:21:24 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 14143 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 15:21:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.activeresearch.com) (216.136.200.111) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 15:21:24 -0000 Received: from marketing ([216.88.158.26]) by mail.activeresearch.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 542 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:19:07 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001027082338.014d6910@mail.activeresearch.com> X-Sender: daniel@mail.activeresearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:26:53 -0700 To: pr@vote-auction.com From: "Daniel Greenberg" Subject: FYI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 94 I read about you guys in yesterdays' USAToday. More power to you! I think what you're doing is awesome and you've got guts to stand up to the state legislatures. And as far as I can tell you're doing nothing wrong. Here's a link you might want to add to your links page: http://presidentialcandidates.activebuyersguide.com/ Its one of the best sites for objectively figuring out which candidate best meets a person's needs. All the best, Daniel Greenberg VP Marketing Active Research From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:57 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 14303 invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2000 15:57:19 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 14300 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 15:57:19 -0000 Received: from exchange.caregroup.harvard.edu (12.6.222.55) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 15:57:19 -0000 Received: by exchange.caregroup.harvard.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) id ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:56:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: ckarasch@caregroup.harvard.edu To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Northeastern University News Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:56:32 -0400 Return-Receipt-To: ckarasch@caregroup.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 95 Voteauction.com, I am a student at Northeastern University and I am going to write a story for the university's paper concerning our presidential election nand your website. I came across your website and I believe it accurately confronts the biggest problem with our democracy, which is the electoral process. Most Americans do not understand the complexity of the voting system, nor the fact that we are not a demoracy, but rather an oligarchy based on self interest. Both of the candidates are merely concerned with bringing prosperity to large corporations because that is where their power lies. Debates and small town visits etc. are simply an attempt to bridge the gap and gain minority votes. I feel strongly that public opinion should be leading this country and not by big business mediating through political campaigns. I would like to register my vote with your site, but I am worried of the legal consequences. Could you answer a few questions for my news article: 1) What brought about the desire to create your website? 2) Has the response been positive from the bids as well as the sells? 3) Has Cook County been the only system to impose legal action? 4) What are your plans of action if legal actions are imposed against your site and its users? 5) Is there anything you would like me to include in the article that could help further your cause? Thanks, Chris Karasch Northeastern University Student From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:57 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 10916 invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2000 00:40:51 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 10913 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 00:40:51 -0000 Received: from imo-r15.mx.aol.com (HELO imo-r15.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.69) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 00:40:51 -0000 Received: from chefrlj@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id x.3d.2aee831 (4560) for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:40:09 -0400 (EDT) From: chefrlj@aol.com Message-ID: <3d.2aee831.272a28e8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:40:08 EDT Subject: want to seel my vote To: pr@vote-auction.com X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 111 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 96 how do you sell your vote want to sell mine From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:58 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 13847 invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2000 14:13:08 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 13844 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 14:13:08 -0000 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (192.232.119.69) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 14:13:08 -0000 Received: from knotes.kodak.com (knotes2.kodak.com [150.221.122.53]) by kodakr.kodak.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA22838 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: boatman@kodak.com Received: by knotes.kodak.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 85256985.004E1308 ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:12:46 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KODAK@INTERNET To: pr@vote-auction.com Message-ID: <85256985.004DE460.00@knotes.kodak.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:12:02 -0400 Subject: question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 97 From: BILL OATMAN I realize this is a press email address, but it's the only one listed. I live in New York and noticed that NY is the only state with no vote-auction.com voters registered. Is there some open legal issue preventing New Yorkers from taking part? I would be interested in signing up, but I am not interested in being New York States whipping boy. Thanks. Bill Oatman From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:58 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 26114 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 19:10:08 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 26111 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 19:10:08 -0000 Received: from dns1.dedicationchannel.com (root@64.70.48.119) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 19:10:08 -0000 Received: from rocket ([63.237.160.170]) by dns1.dedicationchannel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e9PJ3UC28180 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:03:30 -0700 Message-ID: <001001c03eb6$e28f8380$0501a8c0@dedicationchannel.com> From: "Alan Lasky" To: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" References: <004501c03eb3$64ae8180$0501a8c0@dedicationchannel.com> Subject: Re: You have a great site! I have a question! Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:07:05 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 98 Hi Lizvlx, Thanks for your reply. We would be honored to be linked on your site offering your users to send political greetings! I have enclosed some graphics if you would like to put them up on your site. I have the URL to link to below: http://dedicationchannel.com/jsp/special-election.jsp I appreciate your help and will be sending people to your site! Sincerely, Alan Alan Lasky DedicationChannel.com alan@dedicationchannel.com 818-548-5047 ----- Original Message ----- From: [V]ote-auction.com PR To: Alan Lasky Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 11:47 AM Subject: Re: You have a great site! I have a question! > dear alan, > > we will be doing another small redesign this week > which will also allow us to place banner ads on > our page. > > so, if you send us your advertizing materials, > we can put them online. > > best > lizvlx > > ps: i guess we would get a link back..? right. > > >Hi Hans, > > > >I first wanted to let you know that I really enjoy your site and > >what you have to offer your audience for the Election 2000! You did > >a great job collecting and aggregating information in a nice > >user-friendly format! I work for a company called > >www.DedicationChannel.com which is > >a second generation Free greeting card site that I would love to > >have as a link on your vote-auction.com site. Our Election 2000 > >page is at the URL: > > > >http://dedicationcha nnel.com/jsp/special-election.jsp > > > >From the creators of Ren & Stimpy, DedicationChannel.com offers a > >personalized greeting card site with cool graphics, customizable > >greetings, a library of over 2 million songs, sound effects, and > >"talking Email" where animated cartoon characters speak your voice! > >Our users can send a greeting card and win cash weekly. Our Election > >2000 page which links off of our homepage and contains aggregated > >Electorial/Party information and Free Election Greetings by > >a well-known political caricaturist. > > > >Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Our site > >would give your audience a card solution where they could actually > >win cash with no strings attached. We also have great creative > >banners and buttons with Political themes if you would like to > >showcase them on your site. I look forward to hearing from you soon. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Alan > > > >Alan Lasky > >DedicationChannel.com > >alan@dedicationchannel.com > >818-548-5047 > > -- > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Attachment converted: Mac OS 9:election120x60.gif (GIFf/ogle) (00006B5F) Attachment converted: Mac OS 9:election125x125.gif (GIFf/ogle) (00006B60) From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:43:59 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 17063 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 05:45:35 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 17047 invoked by uid 33); 22 Oct 2000 05:45:35 -0000 To: Subject: Vote-auction.com back online Message-ID: <972193535.39f27effa76a9@www.ubermorgen.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:45:35 +0200 From: User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.0 X-Originating-IP: 212.84.244.173 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 99 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -------------------------------------------------------- Vote-auction.com back online -------------------------------------------------------- Berlin, October 22, 2000 Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant information on the latest developments of the site and the people and users behind it. You can also find this press release at http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm For any further information feel free to contact pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. ------------------------------------------------------- [V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com has regained access to the web via its new domain http://www.vote-auction.com During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has been passed concerning the website which explores the high-risk consumer markets of the American election industry. The site's original domain had been ordered shut down by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost everybody related to the existence of the website, the owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy paper for version 2.0 of the project. [V] Sue 'em 'til they drop... The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every effort to get the site out of service during the last 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest to sue: . domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. . silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as well as of one of the top technical staff are also named defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is vote-auction.com's internet access provider. [V] (Il)legal Battle? It remains open for discussion how it should be possible that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider could ever be responsible for contents accessible via domains they are providing routing services for. Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total violation of standards set by ICANN. We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- bank being involved in the legal case, the provider "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by domainbank, as they had at that time already made a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- bank's executives. Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide you with a clear statement from their president: "SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com in russia and japan." [V] Users give full support - despite potential respression Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their support in various emails. This is another reason why we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on protecting any data which has been submitted to us by trusting users. Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to user rights. The court has ordered all data of users registered with the site to be disclosed to the authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually for so-called "voter fraud". [V] Where to go from here Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services to the vital elections markets. We will keep on focusing on the American elections until mid-November this year. In the meantime we will also finish our redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready for upcoming elections worldwide. For the Vote-auction.com team: lizvlx [V]ote-auction.com PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: pr@vote-auction.com http://www.vote-auction.com We will not be able to receive messages sent to the old address. Thank you. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] [] [] [] [V]ote-auction.com [] [] [] [] pr@vote-auction.com [] [] [] [] The Election Idustry Leader - Bringing [] [] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] [] [] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www.ubermorgen.com From autoresponder@gmx.net Thu Mar 08 15:42:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 18789 invoked by alias); 8 Mar 2001 15:42:53 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 18786 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 15:42:53 -0000 Received: from mx0.gmx.net (213.165.64.100) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 15:42:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29982 invoked by alias); 8 Mar 2001 15:49:16 -0000 X-Autoresponse-From: c.schlingensief@gmx.net Date: Thu, 8 Mar 01 15:49:15 GMT Message-ID: <20010308154915.29969vac1@mx02.gmx.net> Reply-To: c.schlingensief@gmx.net From: autoresponder@gmx.net (Autoresponder) To: pr@vote-auction.net Subject: Ihre Mail an / Your message to : c.schlingensief@gmx.net Status: O X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 100 Folgende Nachricht wurde fuer Sie hinterlassen: Please find below a message for you: WIR MACHEN URLAUB ! Dieses Postfach wird bis 20.3.2001 nicht mehr abgefragt oder beantwortet ! In dringenden Fällen wenden Sie sich bitte an die Volksbühne am Rosa Luxemburgplatz, Frau Elke Becker: 030 - 24065601. Presseanfragen bitte an die Pressestelle der Volksbühne, Frau Barbara Schindler. Herzlichen Dank und eine schöne Zeit ! Ihr Katarin vom Schlingensiefteam ! =================================== GMX - Ihr E-Mail-Dienst im Internet http://www.gmx.net =================================== Copyright (c) 2000 GMX Aktiengesellschaft From chris@turm-f.com Thu Mar 08 20:06:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 20124 invoked by alias); 8 Mar 2001 20:06:41 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 20121 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 20:05:52 -0000 Received: from natmail2.webmailer.de (HELO post.webmailer.de) (192.67.198.65) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 20:05:52 -0000 Received: from chris (dsl-641359157.wdc.internetconnect.net [64.13.59.157]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA24212; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:12:41 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: From: "Christian Schaumann" To: "[V]ote-auction PR" Subject: AW: PressRelease: Ubermorgen bietet Kunden aktuelle Branchen-Infos aus New York, USA Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:22:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0A7E3.8FD9BC00" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 101 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0A7E3.8FD9BC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hallo Herr Liz, Erstmal vielen Dank fuer die schnelle Antwort. Die Pressemitteilung ist zunaechst einmal als Aufhaenger zu sehen ;-) Was wir Ihnen eigentlich anbieten moechten ist unser turm f ny - newsfeed service. Ich habe Ihnen eine ausfuerhliche Beschreibung beigefuegt. Leider kennen wir uns noch nicht - ich habe Ihre Email-Adresse von Manuel Schmidt (turm f Hamburg) erhalten. Hier noch Informationen ueber turm f: turm f lebt im internet. turm f visionen wecken den pioniergeist. turm f strategien bilden die basis. turm f konzepte werden maßgeschneidert. turm f kunden setzen maßstäbe. seit der erste hyperlink im netz auftauchte, leisten die mitglieder von turm f pionierarbeit. ihre begeisterung bei online projekten, sowie ihre innovative vorgehensweise übertragen sich immer auf alle beteiligten. spass sowie professionalität werden dabei zu qualitätsmerkmalen. turm fler trugen schon zu mancher erfolgs-story im internet bei. 1996 brachte a. schönfeld mit seinen partnern die beiersdorf marke nivea ins internet und gründete damit die erste agentur, fork unstable media. seitdem haben sich die projekte der turm mitglieder immer auf den aufbau der internet kompetenzen beim kunden konzentriert. neben der beiersdorf ag wurden die haspa, spar, mobilcom, universal music, jaxx lotto, provinzial, fleurop, polygram, new business verlag oder blondmag direkt oder in kooperation mit agenturen wie razorfish, büro x, fluxx,... ins internet geführt. interessiert an der zukunft? Ich freue mich von Ihnen zu hoeren und verbleibe mit sonnigen Gruessen aus dem Silicon Alley! cHr:S -- ------------''|.||'------------ turm f new york new media consulting l.l.c. christian schaumann chief operating officer fon :: +1 [212] 463 0361 -------------------------------'' :: -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- :: Von: [V]ote-auction PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.net] :: Gesendet: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:17 AM :: An: chris@turm-f.com :: Betreff: Re: PressRelease: Ubermorgen bietet Kunden aktuelle :: Branchen-Infos aus New York, USA :: :: :: :: hi there :: :: ist ja nett dass ihr uns press releases anbietet - oder :: was macht ihr sonst so noch? :: :: und dann, kennen wir uns oder ist die email einfach nur :: im verteiler drinnen? :: :: best :: lizvlx :: :: >Hallo Herr Liz! :: > :: >So koennte die Pressemitteilung von "Ihrem" neuen Service aussehen. :: > :: >Ubermorgen bietet seinen Kunden durch turm f ny einen neuen News- und :: >Mehrwertedienst an: "turm f ny - newsfeed". Über individuell :: recherchierte, :: >kundenrelevante Infos aus den fuehrenden Industriezweigen, kann :: Ubermorgen :: >seinen Kunden eine weitreichende Branchenkompetenz :: entgegenbringen und so :: >für mehr Kundenbindung sorgen. :: > :: >Ubermorgen sitzt dadurch mit einem Trend-Sensor direkt im :: Herzen der neuen :: >Economy - dem Silicon Alley, in dem die Ideen von morgen :: wachsen. Von hier :: >aus wird die Informationsgesellschaft in Bewegung gehalten und :: Ihre Kunden :: >waeren immer gemeinsam mit Ihnen einen Schritt voraus! :: > :: >Dieser Service ist ein inhaltlich und technisch vollstaendig :: auf den Kunden :: >ausgerichteter Informationsdienst ueber Hightech und Business in der New :: >Economy. :: > :: > :: >Hier ein Beispiel: :: >AMAZON LAUNCHT ONLINE TRINKGELDER FUER WEBSITES :: >Amazon.com hat seinen neuen Online-Service "Amazon Honor System" :: >freigeschaltet. Damit kann der User "Trinkgeld" an seine :: beliebteste Website :: >oder fuer hochwertigen Content bezahlen. :: >http://www.amazon.com/honor/ :: > :: > :: >Moechten Sie und Ihre Kunden auch Up-To-Date mit den :: Entwicklungen in den :: >USA sein? 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voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 47830 invoked by alias); 2 Apr 2001 09:41:23 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 47827 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2001 09:41:22 -0000 Received: from web.aec.at (195.3.98.5) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2001 09:41:22 -0000 Received: from kultur (kultur.aec.at [195.3.98.19]) by web.aec.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01775; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:52:15 +0200 Message-Id: <200104020952.LAA01775@web.aec.at> From: To: maria haas Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:48:42 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Reply-To: info@prixars.orf.aec.at X-mailer: AspMail 3.52 (SMTP00FF57) Subject: Your Prix Ars Electronica Login Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 102 Dear maria haas, following login allows you to enter the Ars Electronica Prix-Entry more easily: Login : L_HANSEXTREM Passwort : uhO0WuS4 or simply click this link http://prixars.aec.at/2001/registration/login.asp?LOGIN=L_HANSEXTREM&PASS=uhO0WuS4 Your Prix Ars Electronica WebTeam From info@prixars.orf.aec.at Thu Apr 05 13:28:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 65567 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 2001 13:28:07 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 65564 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 13:28:07 -0000 Received: from evil.aec.at (195.3.98.15) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 13:28:07 -0000 Received: from kultur (kultur.aec.at [195.3.98.19]) by evil.aec.at (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f35DcZ403609; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:38:52 +0200 Message-Id: <200104051338.f35DcZ403609@evil.aec.at> From: To: Maria Haas Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:35:01 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.52 (SMTP00FF57) Subject: Prix Ars Electronica Confirmation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 103 Dear Participant, We have received and registered your entry [V]ote-auction for the Prix Ars Electronica 2001. You will find more information about the course of the competition below. Jury Meeting: April 20 - 22, 2001 Winners notified (Golden Nicas, Awards of Distinction, Honorary Mentions): By May 31, 2001 All participants notified: By the end of July 2001 Awards Presentation Monday, September 3, 2001, ORF Upper Austrian Regional Studio in Linz This event will be broadcast on television throughout Austria by ORF and throughout Europe via the satellite program 3sat. Ars Electronica Festival >From September 1 - 6, 2001, in Linz/Austria. For information please see www.aec.at To thank you for your participation, the book 'Prix Ars Electronica Cyberarts 2001' will be mailed to you by the end of 2001. Thank you for taking part in the competition. The Prix Ars Electronica 2001 Team From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Fri Apr 6 03:11:36 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ubermorgen@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 80737 invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2001 16:20:08 -0000 Delivered-To: office@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 80734 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2001 16:20:08 -0000 Received: from atlmail1.turner.com (HELO smtpgw1.turner.com) (198.81.230.196) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2001 16:20:08 -0000 Received: from atlmx04.turner.com (atlmx04.turner.com [157.166.99.174]) by smtpgw1.turner.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0MGXmX11873 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by atlmx04.turner.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:33:28 -0500 Message-ID: <5D9A184FEEEDD211A4050000F81FD0E8067462B3@cnncmx04.turner.com> From: "Tom, Allison" To: "'ubermorgen.com'" Subject: RE: voteauction - video from 24.10.2000 - burden of proof Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:30:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 104 Hi, This email request is not one I handle. You can contact CNN's public information line @ 404-827-2030 and they can assist you. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: ubermorgen.com [mailto:office@ubermorgen.com] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:22 AM To: Tom, Allison Subject: voteauction - video from 24.10.2000 - burden of proof video - 24th october - voteauction - tv show "burden of proof" dear alison, hans took part in the discussion about voteauction in the tv show "burden of proof", released by cnn on the 24th october. unfortunately we have problems downloading the whole video and therefore we would be very pleased if you could help us. do you think there is a possibility to send us the whole tv show on video to the following address:: ubermorgen.com kurrentgasse 10/22 1010 vienna, austria or to send us any relevant information how we can receive this video. in advance we thank your for your help and kindness many greetings from austria the voteauction public relations office -- . . . . . . . . . . : ::ubermorgen.com:: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .mob +43-676-6148108. . . .ema moni@ubermorgen.com. . . . . . .fax +43-1-9681022. . . . .icq 92010402 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere! From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Fri Apr 6 03:16:58 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 87062 invoked by uid 4004); 24 Jan 2001 18:07:45 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 87059 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 18:07:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stargate.fdch.com) (208.46.113.194) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 18:07:45 -0000 Received: from [63.237.90.20] by stargate.fdch.com for liz@ubermorgen.com id NAA25547; Wed Jan 24 13:21:49 2001 Received: (qmail 20432 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2001 18:21:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO emediamillworks.com) (63.237.90.84) by pluto.emediamillworks.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 18:21:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3A6F1D3B.7107CACF@emediamillworks.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:21:48 -0500 Organization: eMediaMillworks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: CNN Ordering Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: liz@ubermorgen.com From: Wendy Blair Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 105 For digital information on videos you need to contact 1-800-959-4228 ext 143. From lavendergreen@dmozed.org Tue Apr 24 20:23:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 77014 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 2001 20:23:46 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 77011 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2001 20:23:46 -0000 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.226) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2001 20:23:46 -0000 Received: from RobinsNest (pawilk-apx1-120-144.du.uplink.net [209.173.120.145]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21001 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002701c0ccfe$8035e8b0$9178add1@RobinsNest> From: "Robin Lionheart" To: Subject: ODP: Vote-auction.com -> Vote-auction.net Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:35:35 -0400 Organization: Open Directory Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 106 Great, I'm glad you have a real URL again. Updated your listing in the Open Directory from "62.116.31.68" to "vote-auction.net". From lionheart@robinlionheart.com Sat Apr 28 14:40:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 2669 invoked by alias); 28 Apr 2001 14:40:43 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 2665 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2001 14:40:43 -0000 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.243) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2001 14:40:43 -0000 Received: from RobinsNest (pawilk-apx1-122-228.du.uplink.net [209.173.122.229]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22193 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007c01c0cff3$543d7410$e57aadd1@RobinsNest> From: "Robin Lionheart" To: "[V]ote-auction PR" References: <002701c0ccfe$8035e8b0$9178add1@RobinsNest> Subject: Re: ODP: Vote-auction.com -> Vote-auction.net Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:55:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 107 > why is it, that when i look for voteauction > in dmoz.org that i get lots of results, but > they are all articles about voteauction, but > i do not get the website itself? > seems strange to me... Those articles were written when your site had the name voteauction.com, so "voteauction" matches the quotes like "Voteauction.com, a site that enables citizens to sell their votes, shut down Friday amid legal questions." If you did a search on "vote-auction" with the hyphen, your site would come up as the first site match. If I were to tweak the description from "Founded by James Baumgartner" to "Founded by James Baumgartner (as voteauction.com)", then in the future, your site would come up for both searches. Robin From km@salon.com Mon May 21 17:03:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 32677 invoked by alias); 21 May 2001 17:03:01 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 32674 invoked from network); 21 May 2001 17:03:00 -0000 Received: from mail.salonmagazine.com (HELO salon.com) (208.48.211.123) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 21 May 2001 17:03:00 -0000 Received: from KatherineM98 (dhcp-208.48.211.180.salon.com [208.48.211.180]) by salon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA10581; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:05:17 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Katharine Mieszkowski" To: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" Cc: Subject: RE: hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:49:43 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Status: O X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 108 Hi there Lizvlx, Sorry about that. That's what I wrote down in my notes from my conversation with James Baumgartner. I may have simply mis-understood. If you like, I can change it. Katharine -----Original Message----- From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:pr@vote-auction.net] Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 5:51 AM To: km@salon.com Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? hi there dear katharine, hi my name is lizvlx and i am the partner of hans bernhard, the two of us operated voteauction from september 2000. just read your story about voteauction, precisely about james baumgartner and his current legal financing roundtrip. it is cool to see that salon's readers are still interested in the political side of the prank, even one year after inauguration. but i have one question: who come you are writing that hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? because neither me or him are rtmark agents. hans and i are running ubermorgen.com as a label and company. for more info feel free to look at the v-a website http://www.vote-auction.net [they forgot to block that one] rtmark and us are friends, but surely we all do our own thing. same is true concerning james and rtmark. i wonder where you got that hans-is-rtmark information from...maybe you can tell me? thanks in advance and have a sunny day, lizvlx -- . . 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From km@salon.com Wed May 23 22:33:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43567 invoked by alias); 23 May 2001 22:33:22 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 43564 invoked from network); 23 May 2001 22:33:22 -0000 Received: from mail.salonmagazine.com (HELO salon.com) (208.48.211.123) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 23 May 2001 22:33:22 -0000 Received: from KatherineM98 (dhcp-208.48.211.180.salon.com [208.48.211.180]) by salon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA08509 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:35:45 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Katharine Mieszkowski" To: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" Subject: RE: hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:31:15 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 109 We fixed it. KM -----Original Message----- From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:pr@vote-auction.net] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:37 PM To: km@salon.com Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: RE: hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? hiback katharine, thanks for the reply. would be nice if you could change it, yeah. this story is coming all the time and its getting kinda nervewrecking. thanks again for the info, and have a formidable day, lizvlx >Sorry about that. That's what I wrote down in >my notes from my conversation with James Baumgartner. >I may have simply mis-understood. > >If you like, I can change it. > >Katharine > >-----Original Message----- >From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:pr@vote-auction.net] >Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 5:51 AM >To: km@salon.com >Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >Subject: hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? > > > > hi there dear katharine, > > hi my name is lizvlx and i am the partner of hans bernhard, > the two of us operated voteauction from september 2000. > > just read your story about voteauction, precisely about > james baumgartner and his current legal financing > roundtrip. > > it is cool to see that salon's readers are still > interested in the political side of the prank, even > one year after inauguration. > > but i have one question: who come you are writing that > hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? because neither me > or him are rtmark agents. hans and i are running > ubermorgen.com as a label and company. > > for more info feel free to look at the v-a website > http://www.vote-auction.net [they forgot to block that one] > > rtmark and us are friends, but surely we all do our own > thing. same is true concerning james and rtmark. > > i wonder where you got that hans-is-rtmark information > from...maybe you can tell me? > > thanks in advance and have a sunny day, > lizvlx >-- > . . 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Thu Jun 14 15:48:40 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 47817 invoked by uid 4004); 14 Jun 2001 10:56:51 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 47811 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2001 10:56:47 -0000 Received: from ws-ber1.win-ip.dfn.de (193.174.75.142) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2001 10:56:47 -0000 Received: from aip.de (marlowe.aip.de [141.33.160.1]) by ws-ber1.win-ip.dfn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11598; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:02:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from umbra.aip.de by marlowe (4.1/SMI-4.2-apr170795) id AA00710; Thu, 14 Jun 01 13:02:55 MES Received: from localhost (iliya@localhost) by umbra.aip.de with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.1) id NAA23323; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:02:54 +0200 (METDST) X-Authentication-Warning: umbra.aip.de: iliya owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:02:51 +0200 (METDST) From: Iliya Nickelt X-X-Sender: To: net_CALLBOY Cc: , Subject: Re: [V]ote-auction In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 110 Lieber Lucius Hans etc., liebe Steffi & Liz, normalerweise bin ich etwas schneller beim antworten, aber die letzten 10 Tage konnte ich mich nur um das allernotwendigste kuemmern. Mittlerweile bin ich aber in Teneriffa angekommen (Beobachtungssession am Sonnenteleskop) und werde jetzt mal versuchen, auf die breite Front von Fragen zu antworten. Soweit es eben geht. > aussehen, hahaha... ], auch nett, die erwartung der klage > seitens CORE.. Werner Staub ist eigentlich ein Techie und ihn interessiert der juristische Kram auch nicht so sehr. Seine Entscheidung allerdings zeugt, vorsichtig ausgedrueckt, von geringer Lust zum Widerstand. Das Interesse am Ausgang der Klage ist aber kein haemisches 'Komm doch', sondern eher der Wunsch, dass dieser Fall mal entgueltig geklaert wird. > das nachhacken eines "members of CORENIC" aus den USA > find ich aus sehr interessant, anscheinend haben auch > die digitalen US amerikaner diesen globalen machtanspruch; > na ja, du wirst es ja sehr gut aus der ICANN kennen, Christ, he's american, how could he fail to do good? (um mal eine zynische Zeile aus Miss Saigon zu zitieren). Leider ist 'good' ja ein sehr relativer Begriff. > das ganze pro-squatting, die marken-kacke.. ich bewundere > alle die idealistisch oder auch konkret zielorientiert > ohne primaere wirtschaftliche interessen an diesen > regulationen und "gesetzen" arbeiten; Die Business-Fraktion gewinnt stetig an Einfluss. Ich sehe ICANN zur Zeit auch am abrutschen. Allerdings kann ich auch negativen Eindruecken etwas abgewinnen (z. B. Juristen-Tagungen! Immerhin habe ich ja so Steffi kennengelernt :-) Tschuldigung fuer den Seitenhieb). Schmerzhaft wird es nur, wenn man zu viel Hoffnung in eine Sache hineingesteckt hat. Seufz. > wie sollen wir deiner meinung nach vorgehen? > -- [oder soll ich darueber mit steffi reden, da ihr das > eh schon besprochen habts?] -- Verstehe ich etwas vom juristischen Weg? Ich bin Astrophysiker, falls das unklar sein sollte. Ich kann nur sagen, dass die ganze Sache ein absoluter Praezendenzfall ist: das DNS als Zensurmechanismus vor dem Hintergrund des aufkommenden Machtkonfliktes USA-Europa. Aus der Provider- und Internet-Junkie-Szene werden alle das mit Interesse verfolgen. Das Problem bei diesen Themen ist nur, dass es fuer's oeffentliche Interesse meist viel zu kompliizert ist, aber damit habt ihr ja nun wohl mehr Erfahrung. > dazu, publicity.. wie sollten wir sowas aus deiner sicht > optimal publizieren? als was? schwerpunkt? Habe keine praktische Erfahrung mit Meidenkampagnen. Ich denke, der einfachste Einstieg ist: Kuenstlerischer Protest wird von den Amis nicht verstanden und sie verpassen Oesterreichisch/ Deutschen Aktionskuenstlern Maulkorb in dem sie die Site 'irgendwie' aus dem Netz mogeln. Das kann man mit Details den klassischen Internet-Medien vermitteln (c't, Spiegel-Online etc) und von dortaus das Fernsehen ansprechen, vermutlich aber nur die Computer-Shows dort. > wie siehst du die praezedenz wenn wir gegen CSL > mit mini-schadensersatz durchkommen? bringt das was > fuer die dns-kunden in europa? muss CORE dann die > policies aendern oder ist das scheiss-egal? Das wird CORE, glaube ich, sehr intensiv verfolgen. Ich habe sowieso den Eindruck, dass es ziwschen CSL und CORE gerade etwas kriselt, und fuerchte, dass es dann zum Konflikt kommt, aber ich stecke da nicht so drin. CORE ist irgendwie ja schon auf ein gutes Verhaeltnis zu ihren Registraren angewiesen. (2. Mail) > ein gutes gespraech mit dir hatte.. und auch, > dass du moeglichkeiten siehst, finanzielle mittel > fuer diesen fall aufzustellen. Tjaha, das beschraenkt sich leider auf ACLU, von denen ich schon geschrieben habe. Ich weiss nicht, inwiefern ihr Unterstuetzung von einer US-Organisation moechtet, aber sie sind die einzigen, die ich mir vorstellen kann, die so etwas aufgreifen wuerden. Inwieweit sie deutsche Rechtsanwaeltinnen sponsoren, weiss ich nicht, aber sie koennten auf jeden Fall eine Analyse der Klagewege aus US-Sicht erstellen. Das Thema sollte sie jedenfalls interessieren. Das ist leider schon das konkreteste, was ich zu bieten habe. Den Kontakt zu ACLU solltet ihr schon selbst aufnehmen (s. meine letzte Mail), ich kenne die auch nicht besser als ihr. Das ist dann auch am transparentesten fuer alle Seiten. Zu Deutschland: So weit ich mich an die damalige Explorer-Abmahnwelle erinnere, gibt es wenig Chancen, in so einem Fall nur wegen des oeffentlichen Interesses Unterstuetzung zu erwarten. Vielleicht wird sich das in den naechsten Jahren aendern, im Zuge der staerkeren Angleichung an die US-Verhaeltnisse, also privates Sponsoring statt staatlicher Aufgabe. Habe von einigen Ideen gehoert, Stiftungen auch fuer solche Probleme ins Leben zu rufen -natuerlich vor allem in Bezug auf ICANN- aber das ist so wage und so weit weg, dass euch das wenig helfen wird. Ich kann nochmal mit Andy Mueller-Maguhn darueber reden, das habe ich im ICANN-Stress vergessen, aber groessere Hoffnungen kann ich euch da nicht machen. Falls ihr sonst noch Ideen habt, helfe ich gerne wo ich kann. Mein Verein, die SPD, laedt mich nicht mal von sich aus zu ihrem Internet-Kongress ein, also erwarte ich nicht, dass dort jemand auch nur das Problem begreift. Ihr solltet natuerlich -- wie beim Fall Explorer -- ein Spendenkonto einrichten, das ihm im Internet abrechnet und bei jedem groesseren Medienkontakt die Oeffentlichkeit um Spenden bitten. Good luck... > uns zu "informieren" und zu kontaktieren. im hinblick > auf finanzielle unterstuetzung halten wir es fuer > wichtig, dass allfaellige zahlungen an mich, luzius > bernhard [ich trete als privat-klaeger auf] gehen, > damit unsere rechtsanwaeltin nicht in irgendeiner > form "beeinflusst" wird. zusaetzlich sollten auch > vorab allfaellige bedingungen oder interessen von > geldgebern geklaert werden, damit das transparentr > ist und alle wissen wer welche interessen vertritt > und welche gelder fliessen, > > waer nett wenn du mir sagst ob das ein ok ansatz > ist, wir/ich kennen uns damit noch nicht wirklich > aus... Das wuerde ich auch so machen, wenn auch die eventuellen Mittel von Organisationen natuerlich zweckgebunden fliessen wuerden, also fuer Anwaltkosten (vorauss.) 10.000 Euro und dann im Nachhinein abgerechnet werden sollten. Immer alles auf die Website stellen, das schafft Vertrauen. > betreffend der "genehmigung" ueber [V]ote-auction > reden zu duerfen [steffi hat uns das mitgeteilt, > das wir dir da gruenes licht geben muessen]... > sag uns doch wie weit du den fall offenlegen musst, > damit du potentiellen "sponsoren" die brisanz er- > klaeren und das interesse wecken kannst.. wir haben > bis zur klage einreichung noch ziemliche verschwiegen- > heit vereinbart, damit nicht in der oeffentlichkeit > oder beim "gegner" zu viel know how im voraus da > ist.. auch hier, wir haben zuwenig erfahrung und > wuerden uns freuen wenn du uns da hilfst.. Ich habe den Fall selber allgemein erlaeutert soweit allgemein bekannt und dann erwaehnt, dass da unter Umstaenden eine Klage erwogen wuerde (ohne zu sagen gegen wen) und das in so einem Fall natuerlich Unterstuetzung willkommen, wenn nicht sogar unbedingt notwendig waere. Das haben die zwei, drei Leute, mit denen ich gesprochen habe eingesehen, ohne weiteres Interesse zu zeigen bzw. Hans Klein (CPSR) hat mich dann auf ACLU verwiesen. Wenn jemand groesseres Interesse gezeigt haette, haette ich ihn eh zu euch durchgestellt. Puh, eine lange Email. 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/=20 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Oct 15 09:44:34 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 25903 invoked by uid 4004); 9 Oct 2001 17:26:22 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 25900 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2001 17:26:17 -0000 Received: from n9.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.59) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2001 17:26:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2384993-2-1002648513-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.56] by n9.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2001 17:25:51 -0000 X-Sender: trouwborst@euronet.nl X-Apparently-To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 9 Oct 2001 17:28:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 67567 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2001 17:28:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Oct 2001 17:28:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n34.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.30) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2001 17:28:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: trouwborst@euronet.nl Received: from [10.1.2.25] by n34.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2001 17:28:32 -0000 To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <9pvc40+29o1@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 213.84.66.194 From: trouwborst@euronet.nl MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com; contact vote-auction-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:28:32 -0000 Reply-To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Subject: [vote-auction] Reminder to vote Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 114 Here is your daily reminder to vote for me. 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ID=96&user=emeralds&area=world http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php? action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormfc Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=998658244 A click and clickthru will do http://www.ultimatetopsites.com/bin/topsite.cgi? faewanda&cat=religion&ID=75 slow site Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormf Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormf Just click on "nieuw bericht" to write in it http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/gastenboek/clubnet/fatansy/ ********************************************************************** ****** Darkness & Witchblade. DarkWitch Site url http://fan.clubs.nl/DarkWitch Vote url fantasy fights: I'm in Enchanted Jungle http://www.webcompetition.net/~tigers/vote.html vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc? id=stormdw You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. A click will do. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php? action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormdw Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999155313 Vote url Top 100 Fantasy Site. You can rate the sites here too. http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi? ID=313&user=bexboomer&area=bestsites Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormdw Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormdw ********************************************************************** ****** Leesvoer Site url http://familie.clubs.nl/leesvoer Vote URL Fantasy Fights: I'm in Dream Magick http://www.webcompetition.net/~spells/votebooth.html Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormlv You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php? action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormlv http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi? ID=124&user=HarryPotterTop100&area=bestsites Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999155055 Vote url Top 100 Fantasy Site. You can rate the sites here too. http://new.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi? ID=312&user=bexboomer&area=bestsites Guest books View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormlv Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormlv ********************************************************************** ****** Boekenleggers Site url http://hobby.clubs.nl/boekenleggers Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc? id=stormbl You can also rate sites. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi? ID=123&user=HarryPotterTop100&area=bestsites http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php? action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormbl ********************************************************************** ****** The Dragon Realm Site url http://cultuur.clubs.nl/dragon Vote url fantasy fights: I'm in Camelot http://www.webcompetition.net/~camelot/voting.html Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormtdr Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormtdr ********************************************************************** ****** The Coca-Cola Club Site url http://hobby.clubs.nl/Coca-Cola Guestbooks (cick on nieuw bericht to write in it) http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/gastenboek/clubnet/ccclub/ ********************************************************************** ****** SIms 4 Ever Site url http://internet.clubs.nl/thesims Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormsim You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php? action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormsim Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999156164 ******************************************* HerbaLife Distributeurs Inge O Trouwborst-Terlouw en Patrick JA Terlouw tel: 010-4977260 fax: 010-4977721 email: herbs@herbalifenet.com of herbs@pating.nl http://www.herbsforlife.nl http://sport.clubs.nl/HerbsForLife http://distributor.herbalifenet.com/Herbs http://www.earnmoneycentral.com/herbs ******************************************* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: vote-auction-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Oct 15 09:44:39 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 40908 invoked by uid 4004); 12 Oct 2001 19:07:47 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 40905 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2001 19:07:45 -0000 Received: from n33.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.83) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2001 19:07:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2384993-3-1002913835-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by n33.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2001 19:10:35 -0000 X-Sender: trouwborst@euronet.nl X-Apparently-To: vote-auction@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0); 12 Oct 2001 19:10:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 27249 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2001 19:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Oct 2001 19:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl) (194.109.127.141) by mta2 with SMTP; 12 Oct 2001 19:04:54 -0000 Received: from Inge (213-84-66-194.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.66.194]) by smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id f9CJ4iat094456; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 21:04:44 +0200 (CEST) To: "A touch of Scottish" , "Alicia Shunk" , "Anastasia" , "Angie Hakner" , "Aqua Uni" , "AquaUni" , "Ashley-Vote@Egroups. Com" , "Carrie Mueller" , "Connie Lady Saphire" , "David CC" , "Electoral_vote" , "Electoral_vote@egroups. com" , "Gwendolyn" , "HarryPotterbookfan-site_vote" , "HarryPotterbookfan-site_vote_eo" , "Jacey" , "Janice Adams vote" , "Jessica" , "Jessica Rabbit" , "Jessine Pleasant Designs" , "Kari" , "Lisa" , "Magelet" , "Maralyn Cook" , "Mary Anne Cook" , "Mary Schmidt" , "Michelle Moyer" , "MPP_Vote" , "Myrefugedaily" , "Natalie" , "OliviasGarden" , "Rain Angel" , "Robert" , "Robin" , "Rowan" , "Sherrie" , "Single-Transferable-Vote@Yahoogroups. Com" , "Steve Z" , "Ted Moes" , "Togepi" , "Vote_Swap-n_Exchange" , "Vote-Auction@Egroups. Com" , "Vote-Exchangers@yahoogroups. com" , "Whitney" Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal From: "IO Trouwborst-Terlouw" X-Yahoo-Profile: storm1970_2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com; contact vote-auction-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 21:04:18 +0200 Reply-To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Subject: [vote-auction] reminder to vote Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 115 Sorry if some got it twice Something went wrong hte forst time So http://thewebbrawls.com/dragon/champ.html This one is important to me Scroll down and vote for my Fantasy en Magie clubsite Thnx Inge ******************************************* HerbaLife Distributeurs Inge O Trouwborst-Terlouw en Patrick JA Terlouw tel: 010-4977260 fax: 010-4977721 email: herbs@herbalifenet.com of herbs@pating.nl http://www.herbsforlife.nl http://sport.clubs.nl/HerbsForLife http://distributor.herbalifenet.com/Herbs http://www.earnmoneycentral.com/herbs ******************************************* [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Oct 17 10:38:30 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 59971 invoked by uid 4004); 16 Oct 2001 12:46:29 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 59968 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2001 12:46:26 -0000 Received: from n34.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.84) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 12:46:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2384993-7-1003236590-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.55] by n34.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2001 12:49:50 -0000 X-Sender: trouwborst@euronet.nl X-Apparently-To: vote-auction@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 16 Oct 2001 12:49:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 82272 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2001 12:49:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Oct 2001 12:49:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl) (194.109.127.141) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 12:49:47 -0000 Received: from Inge (213-84-66-194.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.66.194]) by smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id f9GCn1at001098; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:49:07 +0200 (CEST) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal From: "IO Trouwborst-Terlouw" X-Yahoo-Profile: storm1970_2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com; contact vote-auction-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:48:04 +0200 Reply-To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Subject: [vote-auction] Reminder to vote for Inge Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 116 Here is your daily reminder to vote for me. It is a lot ..... See what you can do if you have the time. If you do not have the time for all I'll understand, just vote form in the Fatasy Fights and Webbrawls and Bards Of Fortune then. Just scroll through my email. Greetings Inge **************************************************************************** Fantasy en Magie. FantasyClub. FantasyPlaatjes (updated) A site about all sorts of Fantasystuff like dragons, wizards, witches etc. site url http://net.clubs.nl/fantasyplaatjes vote url webbrawls (just the weekdays) (remains) http://thewebbrawls.com/dragon/champ.html vote url fantasy fights (just the weekdays) http://www.webcompetition.net/~unicorns/vote.html I'm in Mysterious Mountains (remain again) vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=storm You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. A click is enough. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Vote url Top 100 Fantasy Site. (slow site) Now on 24!! You can rate the sites here too. But you do not have to. A click is enough. http://new.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=307&user=bexboomer&area=bestsite s Just a click will do http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=96&user=emeralds&area=world (now on 5!!) http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormfc Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=998658244 A click and clickthru will do. Now on 14!! http://www.ultimatetopsites.com/bin/topsite.cgi?faewanda&cat=religion&ID=75 slow site Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormf Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormf Just click on "nieuw bericht" to write in it http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/gastenboek/clubnet/fatansy/ **************************************************************************** Darkness & Witchblade. DarkWitch (updated) A site about The Darkness & Witchblade, about the comics, movie and the series. Site url http://fan.clubs.nl/DarkWitch Vote url fantasy fights: (just the weekdays) I'm in Mythical Lair (moved up) http://www.webcompetition.net/~tigers/vote.html vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormdw You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. A click will do. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormdw Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote. Now on 226 not enough to be in the rank. http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999155313 Vote url Top 100 Fantasy Site. You can rate the sites here too. http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=313&user=bexboomer&area=bestsite s Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormdw Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormdw **************************************************************************** Leesvoer >From Fantasybooks to childrensbooks, from literature to poems. Site url http://familie.clubs.nl/leesvoer (updated) Vote URL Fantasy Fights: (just the weekdays) I'm in Spells level 2 (moved up) http://www.webcompetition.net/~spells/votebooth.html Vote URL Bards Of Fortune: (just the weekdays) Look up Leesvoer and vote for me http://bardsoffortune.4t.com/poevote.htm Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormlv You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormlv http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=124&user=HarryPotterTop100&area= bestsites Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote. I'm on 171 that's not enough to be in the rank. http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999155055 Vote url Top 100 Fantasy Site. You can rate the sites here too. http://new.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=312&user=bexboomer&area=bestsite s Guest books View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormlv Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormlv **************************************************************************** Boekenleggers (updated) A site about collecting bookmarks Site url http://hobby.clubs.nl/boekenleggers Vote URL Bards Of Fortune: (just the weekdays) Look up Boekenleggers and vote for me http://bardsoffortune.4t.com/shakesvote.htm Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormbl You can also rate sites. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=123&user=HarryPotterTop100&area= bestsites http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormbl **************************************************************************** The Dragon Realm (updated) A site about Dragons Site url http://cultuur.clubs.nl/dragon Vote url fantasy fights: (just the weekdays) I'm in Grail 3rd level (moved up) http://www.webcompetition.net/~camelot/voting.html Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormtdr Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormtdr **************************************************************************** The Coca-Cola Club (updated) A site for CokeLovers and collectors Site url http://hobby.clubs.nl/Coca-Cola Guestbooks (cick on nieuw bericht to write in it) http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/gastenboek/clubnet/ccclub/ **************************************************************************** Sims 4 Ever (updated) About the PC Game Sims Site url http://internet.clubs.nl/thesims Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormsim You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormsim Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999156164 **************************************************************************** Settlers IV About the PC Game Settlers site url http://game.clubs.nl/thesettlerIV **************************************************************************** HerbsForLife About healthy living site url http://sport.clubs.nl/HerbsForLife **************************************************************************** Plaatjes All sorts of pictures and animations site url http://hobby.clubs.nl/plaatjes **************************************************************************** ******************************************* HerbaLife Distributeurs Inge O Trouwborst-Terlouw en Patrick JA Terlouw tel: 010-4977260 fax: 010-4977721 email: herbs@herbalifenet.com of herbs@pating.nl of Herbs@intHealthCare.com http://www.herbsforlife.nl http://sport.clubs.nl/HerbsForLife http://distributor.herbalifenet.com/Herbs http://distributor.intHealthCare.com/Herbs http://www.herbal-nutrition.net/members/herbsforlife http://www.herbalifedistributors.net/members/herbsforlife http://www.earnmoneycentral.com/herbs ******************************************* ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Oct 17 10:38:52 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 64200 invoked by uid 4004); 17 Oct 2001 07:55:19 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 64187 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 07:54:55 -0000 Received: from n13.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.63) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 07:54:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2384993-8-1003305482-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.223] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2001 07:57:26 -0000 X-Sender: trouwborst@euronet.nl X-Apparently-To: vote-auction@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 17 Oct 2001 07:58:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25970 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 07:57:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.223 with QMQP; 17 Oct 2001 07:57:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl) (194.109.127.139) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 07:57:58 -0000 Received: from Inge (213-84-66-194.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.66.194]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id f9H7vivH068714; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:57:50 +0200 (CEST) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal From: "IO Trouwborst-Terlouw" X-Yahoo-Profile: storm1970_2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com; contact vote-auction-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:57:32 +0200 Reply-To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Subject: [vote-auction] Reminder to vote for Inge Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 117 Here is your daily reminder to vote for me. It is a lot ..... See what you can do if you have the time. If you do not have the time for all I'll understand, just vote form in the Fatasy Fights and Webbrawls and Bards Of Fortune then. Greetings Inge **************************************************************************** Fantasy en Magie. FantasyClub. FantasyPlaatjes (updated) A site about all sorts of Fantasystuff like dragons, wizards, witches etc. site url http://net.clubs.nl/fantasyplaatjes vote url webbrawls (just the weekdays) (remains) http://thewebbrawls.com/dragon/champ.html vote url fantasy fights (just the weekdays) http://www.webcompetition.net/~unicorns/vote.html I'm in Mysterious Mountains (remain again) vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=storm You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. A click is enough. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Vote url Top 100 Fantasy Site. (slow site) Now on 24!! You can rate the sites here too. But you do not have to. A click is enough. http://new.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=307&user=bexboomer&area=bestsite s Just a click will do http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=96&user=emeralds&area=world (now on 5!!) http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormfc Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=998658244 A click and clickthru will do. Now on 14!! http://www.ultimatetopsites.com/bin/topsite.cgi?faewanda&cat=religion&ID=75 slow site Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormf Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormf Just click on "nieuw bericht" to write in it http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/gastenboek/clubnet/fatansy/ **************************************************************************** Darkness & Witchblade. DarkWitch (updated) A site about The Darkness & Witchblade, about the comics, movie and the series. Site url http://fan.clubs.nl/DarkWitch Vote url fantasy fights: (just the weekdays) I'm in Mythical Lair (moved up) http://www.webcompetition.net/~tigers/vote.html vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormdw You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. A click will do. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormdw Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote. Now on 226 not enough to be in the rank. http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999155313 Vote url Top 100 Fantasy Site. You can rate the sites here too. http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=313&user=bexboomer&area=bestsite s Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormdw Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormdw **************************************************************************** Leesvoer >From Fantasybooks to childrensbooks, from literature to poems. Site url http://familie.clubs.nl/leesvoer (updated) Vote URL Fantasy Fights: (just the weekdays) I'm in Spells level 2 (moved up) http://www.webcompetition.net/~spells/votebooth.html Vote URL Bards Of Fortune: (just the weekdays) Look up Leesvoer and vote for me http://bardsoffortune.4t.com/poevote.htm Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormlv You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormlv http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=124&user=HarryPotterTop100&area= bestsites Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote. I'm on 171 that's not enough to be in the rank. http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999155055 Vote url Top 100 Fantasy Site. You can rate the sites here too. http://new.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=312&user=bexboomer&area=bestsite s Guest books View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormlv Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormlv **************************************************************************** Boekenleggers (updated) A site about collecting bookmarks Site url http://hobby.clubs.nl/boekenleggers Vote URL Bards Of Fortune: (just the weekdays) Look up Boekenleggers and vote for me http://bardsoffortune.4t.com/shakesvote.htm Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormbl You can also rate sites. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.topsitelists.com/topsites.cgi?ID=123&user=HarryPotterTop100&area= bestsites http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormbl **************************************************************************** The Dragon Realm (updated) A site about Dragons Site url http://cultuur.clubs.nl/dragon Vote url fantasy fights: (just the weekdays) I'm in Grail 3rd level (moved up) http://www.webcompetition.net/~camelot/voting.html Guestbooks View: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?Login=stormtdr Sign: http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/sign.rc?Login=stormtdr **************************************************************************** The Coca-Cola Club (updated) A site for CokeLovers and collectors Site url http://hobby.clubs.nl/Coca-Cola Guestbooks (cick on nieuw bericht to write in it) http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/gastenboek/clubnet/ccclub/ **************************************************************************** Sims 4 Ever (updated) About the PC Game Sims Site url http://internet.clubs.nl/thesims Vote url dutch top http://www.heetonzeclub.nl/top100/in.hoc?id=stormsim You can also rate sites, but you don't have to. I'm not always on it cause it gets reset a lot Just a click will do http://www.top4tops.com/refer.php?action=in&site=bloody17&member=stormsim Just a click will do. Every hour you can vote http://www.top100nl.net/cgi-bin/lspro/lspro.cgi?click=999156164 **************************************************************************** Settlers IV About the PC Game Settlers site url http://game.clubs.nl/thesettlerIV **************************************************************************** HerbsForLife About healthy living site url http://sport.clubs.nl/HerbsForLife **************************************************************************** Plaatjes All sorts of pictures and animations site url http://hobby.clubs.nl/plaatjes **************************************************************************** ******************************************* HerbaLife Distributeurs Inge O Trouwborst-Terlouw en Patrick JA Terlouw tel: 010-4977260 fax: 010-4977721 email: herbs@herbalifenet.com of herbs@pating.nl of Herbs@intHealthCare.com http://www.herbsforlife.nl http://sport.clubs.nl/HerbsForLife http://distributor.herbalifenet.com/Herbs http://distributor.intHealthCare.com/Herbs http://www.herbal-nutrition.net/members/herbsforlife http://www.herbalifedistributors.net/members/herbsforlife http://www.earnmoneycentral.com/herbs ******************************************* ------------------------ Yahoo! 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