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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:20:56 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 15975 invoked by alias); 28 Oct 2000 06:56:17 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 15972 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2000 06:56:17 -0000 Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.160) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 28 Oct 2000 06:56:17 -0000 Received: from tot-wg.proxy.aol.com (tot-wg.proxy.aol.com [205.188.196.1]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id CAA16244 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (AC817014.ipt.aol.com [172.129.112.20]) by tot-wg.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e9S6tFO07468 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39FA785C.C77471F0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:55:24 -0400 From: Martin Stone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: newsrelease X-Apparently-From: Martinstone1@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 Article printed in newspaper "NRC Handelsblad", The Netherlands, dated October 27, 2000. Sincerely, pvdb@nirvanet.net From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:20:56 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 14911 invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2000 19:02:48 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 14908 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 19:02:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO exchange.kpam.com) (207.109.34.219) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 19:02:47 -0000 Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <429AX2HH>; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:03:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: Norm Gunning To: "'pr@vote-auction.com'" Subject: Interview Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:03:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 Please let me know how I can contact you via phone for a possible interview on our morning news program on KPAM AM 860 here in Portland, Oregon. Thanks Norm Gunning AM 860 News DIRECT: (503) 552-3296 Newsroom (503) 417-8783 FAX (503) 226-3994 www.radiofreeoregon.com From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:20:57 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 8980 invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2000 21:01:59 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 8977 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 21:01:59 -0000 Received: from ctcnot10.ap.org (HELO CTCMail2.ap.org) (165.1.22.58) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 21:01:59 -0000 Received: from ap.org ([165.1.69.100]) by CTCMail2.ap.org (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.4) with ESMTP id 2000102617034365:15717 ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:03:43 -0400 Message-ID: <39F871BB.D8546755@ap.org> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:02:35 -0400 From: aacooper X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" Subject: Re: Mr Bernhard-- References: X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on CTCMail2/TheAP(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 10/26/2000 05:03:44 PM, Serialize by Router on CTCMail2/TheAP(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 10/26/2000 05:03:45 PM, Serialize complete at 10/26/2000 05:03:45 PM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 My deepest apologies, but I was under the impression you were Mr. Bernhard, since I was told he answered the pr email address. Also, I thought he told me during an earlier conversation that he was the ceo of ubermorgan, so you can understand my confusion. I appreciate you letting me know about this and thank you for your timely response to my questions. I would be interested in knowing where you saw the article, since it did not play in any of California's major newspapers. Thank you. And by the way, what is your name so that I do not make such assumptions in the future. Yours, Audrey Cooper The Associated Press aacooper@ap.org "[V]ote-auction.com PR" wrote: > > dear audrey, > > thank you for the article, we are finding > it all over the place... :) > > just one note, i do not quite understand > why you quote the answers i gave you as > "after mr. bernhard" - as it was me who > answered your questions. > > don't get me wrong, it's not a problem or > anything, i am really just wondering - > basically mr. bernhard was thinking he had > gone mad (hihi) because he did not remeber > himself saying the things quoted in the > ap article... > > best > lizvlx > ceo ubermorgen.com > > > dear audrey, > > > > thanks for your enquiry. > > here are our answers. > > > > best > > lizvlx > > ceo ubermorgen.com > > > >>We are doing another story on the vote-auction.com Web site and I was > >>hoping you could answer a few questions for us. We spoke last week about a > >>pending investigation by the Secretary of State in California. > >> > >>1. Why did you change the name of the Web site? > > > >we registered the new domain because of marketing reasons. > >we had found out during usability tests that lots of users > >typed in vote-auction.com instead of voteauction.com. in > >order not to miss these users, we registered the new domain > >name. > >the new name came along with a redesign of the site, and > >we put that up online almost at the same time when the > >judge's order from chicago forced the voteauction.com > >domain offline. > > > >>2. Why is the message board offline? > > > >because we are doing a new message board, one of our > >own. we took the other one offline due to potential > >privacy concerns of our users. > > > >>3. Are you still claiming to "sell" votes? > > > >yes. we do not see any differnce in the phrase "buying a vote" > >and "donating funds". > > > >>4. How long can this name changing go on and are you still getting the same > >>number of hits you got before changing the domain name? > > > >yes, actually almost more because of the incredible press > >coverage that we are receiving. and also, the number of visits > >seem to increase the closer election day is coming. > > > >if you need anything else, do not hesitate to contact us > >anytime. ans also, do check out the new section on our > >site, where you can find the legal correspondence from chicago. > > > >http://www.vote-auction.com/legal > > > >best > >lizvlx > > > >> > >>I would appreciate anything you can tell us on this matter, in the interest > >>of fair and accurate reporting. > >> > >>Thank you again, > >>Audrey Cooper > >>The Associated Press > >>aacooper@ap.org > >>916-448-9555 > -- > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:20:57 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 6001 invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2000 17:34:48 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 5998 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 17:34:47 -0000 Received: from f255.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.14.130) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 17:34:47 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:34:24 -0700 Received: from 168.166.12.70 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:34:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.166.12.70] From: "Lauren Shepherd" To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Re: vote-auction.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:34:24 EDT Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2000 17:34:24.0285 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB644CD0:01C03F72] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 Thanks for answering a few questions...Here they are: 1. How does the vote-auction.com site work? If a person, for example, in the state of Missouri wants to sell their vote, what happens after they register on the site? 2. What is the profile of the typical person who sells their vote? 3. Who is buying the votes? How does the bidding work? 4. Is this legal? On the website, you say that under the free speech cause of the First Amendment, vote buying and selling is a legal way to exercise free speech. Can you explain this? 5. In Illinois, the Board of Elections seems to have gotten a permanent injunction against the site www.voteauction.com. How is the site still in operation? Does the name change to vote-auction.com mean you don't need to follow the injunction? 6. How many people in total have sold their votes? How many bidders have you had since taking over the site? 7. When did you buy the site--in August? 8. How much effect has your site had on voting? Will the votes bought or sold effect this presidential election in swing states? For which candidate? 9. After a person sells their vote, how long does it take for someone to buy it? When does the seller see their money? Are they told who to vote for? 10. Have any other states, besides Illinios, tried to prosecute? 11. What's next for vote-auction.com? Planning on continuing this site for other elections? 12. Please give me your full name and title. hank you for your time. Please write me back sometime this afternoon, if at all possible. Thanks again, Lauren Shepherd ----Original Message Follows---- From: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" To: "Lauren Shepherd" Subject: Re: vote-auction.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:02:20 +0200 dear lauren, thanks for getting in contact with us. sure we could talk with you, you can reach us at the following tel number: 011-49-175-20.66.954 that is a number in berlin, germany. you can of course also email us your questions. best lizvlx >Hello, >My name is Lauren Shepherd and I am a reporter at the Missouri >Digital News--a news service in Jefferson City, Missouri. I wanted >to speak with someone about the vote-auction website--legal issues, >the goal of the site, the permanent injunction in the state of >Illinios and basically how the site works. Please e-mail me and let >me know if someone would be available later today to talk. My number >is 573-751-2888. >Thank you, >Lauren Shepherd >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. -- . . 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:20:59 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 5924 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 17:32:15 -0000 Received: from www.micromusic.net (root@62.116.31.69) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 17:32:15 -0000 Received: from [212.84.244.179] ([212.84.244.179]) by www.micromusic.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA30597; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:36:17 +0200 X-Sender: hans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001c03f6c$e0fb5740$4101a8c0@n4n8u9> References: <000001c03f6c$e0fb5740$4101a8c0@n4n8u9> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:31:53 +0200 To: From: net_CALLBOY Subject: Re: Artikel auf NET-BC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 >Hallo Herr Bernhard, hi there http://www.net-bc.de/business/bus_3.hbs?newsid=972405693&nachricht=a958652296e danke fuer die info, die yahoo news sind bestens, wobei es zuviele fehler und unkorrekte zitate beinhaltet, speziell erstaunlich da dies ja AP texte sind... der artikel ist erstklassig! einer der wenigen substantiellen berichte ueber vote-auction.com. gruesse aus berlin hans bernhard ubermorgen.com vote-auction.com >Wieder ein Artikel über Sie auf NET-BC www.net-bc.com. 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:20:59 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 5127 invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2000 16:50:13 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 5124 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 16:50:13 -0000 Received: from f273.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.14.148) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 16:50:13 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:49:51 -0700 Received: from 168.166.12.70 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:49:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.166.12.70] From: "Lauren Shepherd" To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: vote-auction.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:49:50 EDT Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2000 16:49:51.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[C2088510:01C03F6C] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 Hello, My name is Lauren Shepherd and I am a reporter at the Missouri Digital News--a news service in Jefferson City, Missouri. I wanted to speak with someone about the vote-auction website--legal issues, the goal of the site, the permanent injunction in the state of Illinios and basically how the site works. Please e-mail me and let me know if someone would be available later today to talk. My number is 573-751-2888. Thank you, Lauren Shepherd _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:20:59 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 1813 invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2000 13:02:04 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 1810 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 13:02:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ccdns2sat.clearchannel.com) (216.142.92.254) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 13:02:03 -0000 Received: from ccdex2cvg.clearchannel.com ([192.168.12.52]) by ccdns2sat.clearchannel.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24923 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:55:19 -0600 From: JohnDobeck@wgar.com Received: by ccdex2cvg.clearchannel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: interview Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:01:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 we do the morning show at wgar in cleveland ohio and would like to talk to somebody from the website... thank you John Dobeck From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:20:59 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 26602 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 19:43:53 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 26599 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 19:43:53 -0000 Received: from pop.wnyc.org (HELO wnycradio1.wnyc.org) (209.208.218.28) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 19:43:53 -0000 Received: by pop.wnyc.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:45:03 -0400 Message-ID: <40EC438273E1D311AE4200508B8BD1C9CA4CB8@pop.wnyc.org> From: ontheline@wnyc.org To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Interview for WNYC Radio Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:44:58 -0400 Return-Receipt-To: ontheline@wnyc.org X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 Thank you for getting back to me in reference to the interview for our show. It would be on November 7th at 11:05am until 11:30am, by phone would be fine. Our guest from vote auction would join Brian Lehrer our host for dialogue and then we would take some calls from interested listeners. Please let me know if this could work for you. Thank you very much Nuala McGovern 212-669-2200 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:00 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 24345 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 17:41:43 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 24342 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 17:41:42 -0000 Received: from mgsys40.media-general.com (207.243.40.40) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 17:41:42 -0000 Received: from inet-mail2.themeganet.com (pix-i.media-general.com [10.254.2.3]) by mgsys40.media-general.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06520 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:41:38 -0400 (EDT) From: BFancher@kimt.com Received: by smegricvam03x.themeganet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:40:46 -0400 Message-ID: <69DE1817E456D411871E00E018C357AB046AB5@webmail35.themeganet.com> To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: media request Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:40:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 hello: i understand who have had over 200 people sign up to sell their vote from the state of Iowa. what are the chances of finding out who these people are? please let me know as soon as possible. my e-mail address is bfancher@kimt.com or you can call me at 641-421-2618. thanks. brian fancher assignment editor kimt-tv mason city, iowa From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:00 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 20783 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 15:02:54 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 20780 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 15:02:53 -0000 Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (212.198.0.202) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 15:02:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 2797442 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 15:02:56 -0000 Received: from r145m61.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO guillaub) ([195.132.145.61]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Oct 2000 15:02:56 -0000 Message-ID: <004201c03e95$634b43a0$3d9184c3@cybercable.fr> From: "guillaume bonjean" To: Subject: Some questions about your initiative Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:08:09 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 Some questions about your initiative
Hello,
 
I'm a french journalist for the site ZDNet.fr.
I'm about to write an article on the "vote-auction case" and i would like to have from you some commentaries on the subject.
 
Could you please answer (Hans Bernhard or anyone in charge of the operations) the following few questions :
 
- Could you precise the history of the initiative (i.e date of the purchase from James Baumgartner, date of the closure of the first site, etc.) ?
 
- Vote-auction is obviously more a question of activism than pure business (you don't earn money from this !) : what is the goal of the operation ?
 
- What is your situation now : Where are the servers ? Can the american law hurt you in any way ?
 
- What were the reactions on your initiative (e-mail, felicitations, hacking, threaths, etc.) so far ?
 
- You say you are planning to extend "business" on E.U elections and others outside America. Can you tell me more ?
 
- Finally, can you tell us more about Ubermorgen.com ? Wieving from you web site, it's pretty unclear what your activity really is...
 
Excuse my bad english, anyway :)
 
Thank you for answering
 
Guillaume Bonjean
ZDNet France
06 68 58 17 01
From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:01 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 23541 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 17:18:29 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 23538 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 17:18:29 -0000 Received: from ctcnot10.ap.org (HELO CTCMail2.ap.org) (165.1.22.58) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 17:18:29 -0000 Received: from ap.org ([165.1.69.87]) by CTCMail2.ap.org (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.4) with ESMTP id 2000102513200891:12041 ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:20:08 -0400 Message-ID: <39F6EBD7.929F5F4E@ap.org> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:19:04 -0400 From: aacooper X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Mr Bernhard-- X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on CTCMail2/TheAP(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 10/25/2000 01:20:09 PM, Serialize by Router on CTCMail2/TheAP(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 10/25/2000 01:20:11 PM, Serialize complete at 10/25/2000 01:20:11 PM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 We are doing another story on the vote-auction.com Web site and I was hoping you could answer a few questions for us. We spoke last week about a pending investigation by the Secretary of State in California. 1. Why did you change the name of the Web site? 2. Why is the message board offline? 3. Are you still claiming to "sell" votes? 4. How long can this name changing go on and are you still getting the same number of hits you got before changing the domain name? I would appreciate anything you can tell us on this matter, in the interest of fair and accurate reporting. Thank you again, Audrey Cooper The Associated Press aacooper@ap.org 916-448-9555 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:01 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 16478 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 07:16:55 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 16475 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 07:16:55 -0000 Received: from mail.gatrixx.de (HELO bln-fw.gatrixx.de) (195.127.198.135) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 07:16:55 -0000 Received: from mail.gatrixx.de by bln-fw.gatrixx.de via smtpd (for [62.116.31.68]) with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 07:16:56 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <97754A2768C7D311BD11009027DCC9936222FB@mail.gatrixx.de> From: Achim Sawall To: "'[V]ote-auction.com PR'" Subject: AW: AW: interview Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:16:54 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 Könnten wir noch einen Namen kriegen, damit wir wissen, mit wem wir sprachen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [V]ote-auction.com PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2000 19:48 An: Achim Sawall Betreff: Re: AW: interview >okay here we go > >de.internet.com: Ihr satirisches Konzept, US-Briefwähler-Stimmen stimmen >meistbietend zu versteigern, hat die US-Justiz auf den Plan gerufen, ihr >Surver mußte ins Ausland emigrieren. Hatten Sie so starken Gegenwind >erwartet? nicht im so extremen ausmass, nein. aber wir sind nicht naiv, wir sind nicht davon ausgegangen, dass man nicht darauf regaiert. was uns allerdings bestuertzt ist die extreme vorgangsweise, dass man nicht mit uns spricht, sondern ganz im gegenteil alle leute verklagt, die auch nur im geringsten damit zu tun haben. > >de.internet.com: Welche Reaktionen haben Sie von Nutzern Ihrers Angebots >erfahren, wie laufen die Geschäfte? die reagktionen sind sehr polarisierend, wie man sich erwarten kann. einige hate-mails aus den usa, und viele viele uinterstuetzermails. interessant sind auch die mails, in denen angefragt wird, wie man den jetzt stimmen kaufen koenne. > >de.internet.com: Ihr Angebot scheint an die Grundfesten des Demokratiespiels >zu gehen, eigentlich verwunderlich, in den USA werden Abgeordnete über >Lobbying eingekauft, selten war jemand Präsident der nicht Millionär war. >Wozu der Trubel? das fragen wir uns auch, wir sagen dazu: wir haben die election industry nicht erfunden, wir wollen nur den b2c markt erobern. und da ist viel geld und viel macht drinnen. > > > > > > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >Von: Vote-auction PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] >Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2000 15:45 >An: Susanne Schädlich; achim@de.internet.com >Betreff: Re: interview > > > > sicher gerne. > > koennen wir machen. > > bitte mailen sie uns ihre fragen, wir > werden umgehend darauf antworten. > > mfg > lizvlx > ceo ubermorgen.com > >>Dear Hans Bernhard, dear Operators of Vote-auction.com: >> >>de.internt.com is a German Online News Magazine, specializing in Marketing >>and Technology News. We have been reporting recently about your Site >>(supporting your efforts of "Bringing Capitalism and Democracy Closer >>Together"). We would like to do an e-Mail interview with you about your >>Site, your motives etc. >> >>Please, contact Achim Sawall, Editor, at: achim@de.internet.com >> >>In hope for a positive resonse and looking forward to hearing from you >soon. >> >>Susanne Schädlich >>Editor >>de.internet.com >>Am Kalrsbad 11 >>10875 Berlin >>Germany >>Tel: 49-30-206 03 223 > >-- > . . 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:01 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 14956 invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2000 02:05:56 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 14953 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2000 02:05:56 -0000 Received: from imo-r13.mx.aol.com (HELO imo-r13.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 25 Oct 2000 02:05:56 -0000 Received: from SImparl@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id x.21.290fc4a (4209) for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:05:30 -0400 (EDT) From: SImparl@aol.com Message-ID: <21.290fc4a.272799ea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:05:30 EDT Subject: More News Coverage To: pr@vote-auction.com X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18 Here is more news coverage. http://www.eprairie.com/news/viewnews.asp?newsletterID=979 Steve Imparl From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:02 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 9412 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 18:28:55 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 9409 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 18:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MVMAIL.mvisionmedia.com) (207.223.244.50) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 18:28:54 -0000 Received: from stevexxxxxx (SERVER1 [209.54.86.30]) by MVMAIL.mvisionmedia.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 41PXG3AQ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:27:18 -0700 From: "Steven Bainnson" To: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" Subject: RE: News coverage on Vote-auction.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:27:32 -0700 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 Are you non-profit, if so I could give you a 30% discount. -----Original Message----- From: [V]ote-auction.com PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 11:18 AM To: Steven Bainnson Subject: RE: News coverage on Vote-auction.com thanks for the offer. but it is a bit expensive for 1 minute of footage. best lizvlx >Length is approximately 1 minute, and it was about an incorrect rumor of >your company shutting down due to a temporary outage over the weekend. Clip >includes various footage of the site. > >The price is a very competitive industry rate, please see attached rate >sheet. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact >me. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [V]ote-auction.com PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:49 AM >To: Steven Bainnson >Subject: Re: News coverage on Vote-auction.com > > >if you could briefly tell us first: >.what kind of length the segment is >.what the core story is >.why it is so expensive. > >best >lizvlx > >> >> >>Your company received news coverage on the TECHTV Cable Network >>which airs nationally. We can provide you with a VHS tape or a >>digital version of this news clip. We can also provide any other >>segments that might have aired. >> >>We can provide you with a VHS tape ($95.00) or a digital version of >>this news clip can be emailed to you today ($210.00) >> >> >> >>If you are interested please reply or contact at the number below so >>that we may discuss this further and check for additional >>coverage. >> >>Multivision is a national news monitoring services capable of >>delivering to you, all of your media retrieval needs. Attached >>please find some information on our company including a price and >>market list. You may visit our website at >>www.mvisionmedia.com where you can find >>additional information and samples of our digital service. >>Thank you for your interest in our service. >> >>Steven Bainnson >>Sales Manager >>Multivision Media Monitoring >>(212) 244-4830 x 112 >>(917) 861-3797 (cell) >> > >-- > . . 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:03 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 8904 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 18:00:20 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 8901 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 18:00:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MVMAIL.mvisionmedia.com) (207.223.244.50) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 18:00:15 -0000 Received: from stevexxxxxx (SERVER1 [209.54.86.30]) by MVMAIL.mvisionmedia.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 41PXGN9W; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:58:17 -0700 From: "Steven Bainnson" To: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" Subject: RE: News coverage on Vote-auction.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:58:28 -0700 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 Length is approximately 1 minute, and it was about an incorrect rumor of your company shutting down due to a temporary outage over the weekend. Clip includes various footage of the site. The price is a very competitive industry rate, please see attached rate sheet. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me. -----Original Message----- From: [V]ote-auction.com PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:49 AM To: Steven Bainnson Subject: Re: News coverage on Vote-auction.com if you could briefly tell us first: ..what kind of length the segment is ..what the core story is ..why it is so expensive. best lizvlx > > >Your company received news coverage on the TECHTV Cable Network >which airs nationally. We can provide you with a VHS tape or a >digital version of this news clip. 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What does your name mean? Richard Stenger Sci-Tech Writer CNN.com richard.stenger@cnn.com 404.827.4376 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:04 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 8938 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 18:01:24 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 8935 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 18:01:23 -0000 Received: from ns2.auctionwatch.com (HELO whitestar.auctionwatch.com) (64.14.24.2) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 18:01:23 -0000 Received: from exchange.auctionwatch.com (exchange.corp.auctionwatch.com [10.128.0.10]) by whitestar.auctionwatch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09036 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:01:27 -0700 Received: by exchange.corp.auctionwatch.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:01:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michelle Dennehy To: "'[V]ote-auction.com PR'" Subject: RE: Vote-auction.com back online Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:01:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 22 So the site is not a joke? -----Original Message----- From: [V]ote-auction.com PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:56 AM To: Michelle Dennehy Subject: RE: Vote-auction.com back online we are at the moment in the process of a major software update. we will be able to disclose more figures when we are finished. (in about a week) best lizvlx >Vote-auction: > >I read in a Wired story (below) that the whole Web site was meant to be a >joke, and that actually no one had registered to buy votes. Can you confirm >this and give me accurate information on how many voters and sellers have >registered? > >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,39590,00.html > >Thanks, >Michelle Dennehy >News Editor >tel. 650 808 5865 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: pr@vote-auction.com [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] >Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 10:56 PM >To: pr@vote-auction.com >Subject: Vote-auction.com back online > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Vote-auction.com back online > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Berlin, October 22, 2000 > > Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com > [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant > information on the latest developments of the site and the > people and users behind it. > > You can also find this press release at > http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm > > For any further information feel free to contact > pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > [V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com > > The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com > has regained access to the web via its new domain > > http://www.vote-auction.com > > During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has > been passed concerning the website which explores the > high-risk consumer markets of the American election > industry. > > The site's original domain had been ordered shut down > by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois > earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took > their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost > everybody related to the existence of the website, the > owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy > paper for version 2.0 of the project. > > > [V] Sue 'em 'til they drop... > > The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every > effort to get the site out of service during the last > 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, > James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans > Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest > to sue: > > . domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where > the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. > It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. > > . silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as > well as of one of the top technical staff are also named > defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is > vote-auction.com's internet access provider. > > > [V] (Il)legal Battle? > > It remains open for discussion how it should be possible > that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider > could ever be responsible for contents accessible via > domains they are providing routing services for. > Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total > violation of standards set by ICANN. > > We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's > name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of > repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. > > Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to > work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- > bank being involved in the legal case, the provider > "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them > with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. > Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we > asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain > to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by > domainbank, as they had at that time already made > a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the > domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- > bank's executives. > > Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide > you with a clear statement from their president: > > "SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. > SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing > contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very > interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com > in russia and japan." > > > [V] Users give full support - despite potential respression > > Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their > support in various emails. This is another reason why > we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. > legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com > works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on > protecting any data which has been submitted to us by > trusting users. > > Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to > user rights. The court has ordered all data of users > registered with the site to be disclosed to the > authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in > Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually > for so-called "voter fraud". > > > [V] Where to go from here > > Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services > to the vital elections markets. We will keep on > focusing on the American elections until mid-November > this year. In the meantime we will also finish our > redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready > for upcoming elections worldwide. > > > For the Vote-auction.com team: > > lizvlx > [V]ote-auction.com > > > PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via > web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: > > pr@vote-auction.com > http://www.vote-auction.com > > We will not be able to receive messages sent to the > old address. Thank you. > > > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > [] [] > [] [V]ote-auction.com [] > [] [] > [] pr@vote-auction.com [] > [] [] > [] The Election Idustry Leader - Bringing [] > [] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] > [] [] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------- >This mail sent through IMP: www.ubermorgen.com -- . . 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:05 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 6670 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 16:42:04 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 6667 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 16:42:02 -0000 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.157) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 16:42:02 -0000 Received: from [216.175.70.84] (user-vcauhik.dsl.mindspring.com [216.175.70.84]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15697 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:42:05 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:43:49 -0500 Subject: RE: Interview Request with Mr. Bernhard From: Herbert To: Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 23 Lieber Hans Bernhard, ich bin Korrespondent für die Verlagsgruppe NEWS in New York und würde mich über ein Gespräch mit Ihnen freuen. Format hat je bereits eine Story über Vote-Auction gebracht. Sie können mich entweder per remail oder unter 212-217-2065 erreichen. Ich danke im Voraus. Liebe Grüße, Herbert Bauernebel ............................................................ NEWS PUBLISHING GROUP Herbert Bauernebel Correspondent NEWS, FORMAT phone (212) 217-2065 cell (646) 279-5618 fax (212) 217-2063 100 John Street #3104 New York, NY, 10038 newsny@mindspring.com http://www.news.at ............................................................. 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:06 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 2557 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 12:09:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.84.244.173?) (212.84.244.173) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 12:09:30 -0000 X-Sender: hans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:09:15 +0200 To: ubermoni From: net_CALLBOY Subject: Re: nice article Cc: liz@ubermorgen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 25 >hi liz, > >wirklich sehr interessant - cool. >deinen press release find ich auch sehr gut. >hast du noch irgendwelche infos fuer mich?? yo, super press.release den lizvlx da ge- schrieben hat, perfect-o! >hi liz / hi hans hi moni hier die answers.. ich werd meine sachen durch- gehen und dir voraussichtlich noch ein paar jobs durchschicken heute nachmittag... >what happened today:: > >nothing spectacular > >:: patentamt post ist jetzt im office kewl.. ist ein urkunde, richtig? >:: saldenliste von mag. weiss eingetroffen ok, > >please instructions: > >:: rechnung, kv - copyright >-> hab mit achim kurz telefoniert - duerften > wohl auch mit artportal so ihre problemchen > zwecks bezahlung haben yup, die sind auch draussen as it seems >-> wir sollten wohl auch die rechnungen an > herrn griebaumer, rechte bahngasse 30-32 > schicken ok, mach das bitte, heute noch abschicken damit ers mittwoch latest hat, haben wir den kv und den vertrag copyright schon unterschrieben bekommen? if not, bitte mit frau deuchler besprechen wie wir den bis mittwoch erhalten. >:: meeting graebner - wollte bis morgen > feedback zwecks meeting >-> welches date ?? mit liz absprechen, bin ich nicht on current infostatus.. >:: fr. deuchler wollte sich ja morgen melden >-> what to do ? > >:: bezueglich reminder "another tuesday party" >-> mittwoch war als reminder tag gedacht yup, zu frueh.. machen wir am freitag abend abschicken, dann habens die leute uebers week-end respektive montag morgen. >:: wto event >-> habt ihr noch weitere news? unterbringung > fuer mark? 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:07 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 1874 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 10:35:11 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 1871 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 10:35:11 -0000 Received: from mail.gatrixx.de (HELO bln-fw.gatrixx.de) (195.127.198.135) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 10:35:11 -0000 Received: from mail.gatrixx.de by bln-fw.gatrixx.de via smtpd (for [62.116.31.68]) with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 10:35:14 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <97754A2768C7D311BD11009027DCC9936222D9@mail.gatrixx.de> From: Achim Sawall To: 'Vote-auction PR' Subject: AW: interview Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:35:05 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 26 okay here we go de.internet.com: Ihr satirisches Konzept, US-Briefwähler-Stimmen stimmen meistbietend zu versteigern, hat die US-Justiz auf den Plan gerufen, ihr Surver mußte ins Ausland emigrieren. Hatten Sie so starken Gegenwind erwartet? de.internet.com: Welche Reaktionen haben Sie von Nutzern Ihrers Angebots erfahren, wie laufen die Geschäfte? de.internet.com: Ihr Angebot scheint an die Grundfesten des Demokratiespiels zu gehen, eigentlich verwunderlich, in den USA werden Abgeordnete über Lobbying eingekauft, selten war jemand Präsident der nicht Millionär war. Wozu der Trubel? -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Vote-auction PR [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2000 15:45 An: Susanne Schädlich; achim@de.internet.com Betreff: Re: interview sicher gerne. koennen wir machen. bitte mailen sie uns ihre fragen, wir werden umgehend darauf antworten. mfg lizvlx ceo ubermorgen.com >Dear Hans Bernhard, dear Operators of Vote-auction.com: > >de.internt.com is a German Online News Magazine, specializing in Marketing >and Technology News. We have been reporting recently about your Site >(supporting your efforts of "Bringing Capitalism and Democracy Closer >Together"). We would like to do an e-Mail interview with you about your >Site, your motives etc. > >Please, contact Achim Sawall, Editor, at: achim@de.internet.com > >In hope for a positive resonse and looking forward to hearing from you soon. > >Susanne Schädlich >Editor >de.internet.com >Am Kalrsbad 11 >10875 Berlin >Germany >Tel: 49-30-206 03 223 -- . . 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From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:16 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 31871 invoked by alias); 24 Oct 2000 00:46:27 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 31868 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 00:46:26 -0000 Received: from ns2.auctionwatch.com (HELO whitestar.auctionwatch.com) (64.14.24.2) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 00:46:26 -0000 Received: from exchange.auctionwatch.com (exchange.corp.auctionwatch.com [10.128.0.10]) by whitestar.auctionwatch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05491 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:46:33 -0700 Received: by exchange.corp.auctionwatch.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:46:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michelle Dennehy To: "'pr@vote-auction.com'" Subject: RE: Vote-auction.com back online Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:46:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 27 Vote-auction: I read in a Wired story (below) that the whole Web site was meant to be a joke, and that actually no one had registered to buy votes. Can you confirm this and give me accurate information on how many voters and sellers have registered? http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,39590,00.html Thanks, Michelle Dennehy News Editor tel. 650 808 5865 -----Original Message----- From: pr@vote-auction.com [mailto:pr@vote-auction.com] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 10:56 PM To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Vote-auction.com back online FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -------------------------------------------------------- Vote-auction.com back online -------------------------------------------------------- Berlin, October 22, 2000 Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant information on the latest developments of the site and the people and users behind it. You can also find this press release at http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm For any further information feel free to contact pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. ------------------------------------------------------- [V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com has regained access to the web via its new domain http://www.vote-auction.com During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has been passed concerning the website which explores the high-risk consumer markets of the American election industry. The site's original domain had been ordered shut down by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost everybody related to the existence of the website, the owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy paper for version 2.0 of the project. [V] Sue 'em 'til they drop... The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every effort to get the site out of service during the last 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest to sue: . domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. . silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as well as of one of the top technical staff are also named defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is vote-auction.com's internet access provider. [V] (Il)legal Battle? It remains open for discussion how it should be possible that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider could ever be responsible for contents accessible via domains they are providing routing services for. Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total violation of standards set by ICANN. We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- bank being involved in the legal case, the provider "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by domainbank, as they had at that time already made a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- bank's executives. Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide you with a clear statement from their president: "SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com in russia and japan." [V] Users give full support - despite potential respression Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their support in various emails. This is another reason why we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on protecting any data which has been submitted to us by trusting users. Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to user rights. The court has ordered all data of users registered with the site to be disclosed to the authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually for so-called "voter fraud". [V] Where to go from here Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services to the vital elections markets. We will keep on focusing on the American elections until mid-November this year. In the meantime we will also finish our redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready for upcoming elections worldwide. For the Vote-auction.com team: lizvlx [V]ote-auction.com PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: pr@vote-auction.com http://www.vote-auction.com We will not be able to receive messages sent to the old address. Thank you. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] [] [] [] [V]ote-auction.com [] [] [] [] pr@vote-auction.com [] [] [] [] The Election Idustry Leader - Bringing [] [] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] [] [] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www.ubermorgen.com From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:24 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 29942 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 21:06:29 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 29939 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 21:06:29 -0000 Received: from bastion.iw.com (HELO mailhost.mecklermedia.com) (firewall-user@12.0.251.2) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 21:06:29 -0000 Received: by mailhost.mecklermedia.com; id RAA27067; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(205.197.216.185) by bastion.mecklermedia.com via smap (V5.5) id xma027064; Mon, 23 Oct 00 17:06:14 -0400 X-Sender: zipperer@12.0.251.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <972194390.39f282566a619@www.ubermorgen.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:04:41 -0400 To: Vote-auction PR From: John Zipperer Subject: Re: Vote-auction.com back online Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 28 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:30 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 29340 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 19:38:32 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 29337 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 19:38:31 -0000 Received: from mail11a.verio-web.com (HELO mail-fwd.verio-web.com) (161.58.16.57) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 19:38:31 -0000 Received: from 161.58.104.158 (161.58.104.158) by mail11a.verio-web.com (RS ver 1.0.57s) with SMTP id 02683095 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001023151847.00a466f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: tgw/technodemocracy.org@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:19:22 -0400 To: Vote-auction PR From: Thom Wysong Subject: Re[2]: vote-auction.com article & feedback In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.20001022225102.009b2370@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.2.0.58.20001022225102.009b2370@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Loop-Detect: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 29 Thank you for your feedback. -Thom At 04:05 PM 10/23/00 +0200, you wrote: >dear thom > >very nice article.. > >always fun to see that somebody else was >also looking at the rebirth of the new >site when we were working on it. > >i did not see any real errors or so... > >best >lizvlx > >>Earlier today (Sunday) I wrote up an article on your web site. I >>believe the article is factually correct. However, if you find any >>errors in it, please let me know so that I can correct them. The >>article is at ... >>http://technodemocracy.org/people/tgw/docs/voteauction-whackamole.html >> >>Thank you. >> >>-Thom Wysong > >-- >. . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:34 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 28466 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 17:52:51 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 28463 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 17:52:50 -0000 Received: from notes1.bna.com (149.79.27.11) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 17:52:50 -0000 Importance: High X-Priority: 1 (High) Subject: Illinois To: pr@vote-auction.com Bcc: From: "Mike Bologna" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:50:23 -0400 Message-ID: Disposition-Notification-To: mbologna@bna.com X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NOTES1/BNA Inc(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 10/23/2000 01:52:56 PM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 30 Hello: Thank you for the recent press release. I read the information and looked at the new web site. Again, I'd like to write a story about your program and your press release leaves a few questions unanswered. - Are you still soliciting votes from Illinois voters? - Do you plan to represent yourselves in court in Illinois? - If so, who is your attorney? - Do you intend to comply with the component of the court order directing you to deliver the names of Illinois voters selling their votes through vote-auction.com? You can contact me via email at the above address or call me at 773-551-9485. Sincerely, Michael Bologna Staff Writer Money and Politics Reporter Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:36 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 27925 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 16:56:48 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 27922 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 16:56:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jfk.green.com) (63.67.107.115) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 16:56:48 -0000 Received: by JFK with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:49:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Kazak, David" To: "'pr@vote-auction.com'" Subject: Please contact me... Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:49:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 31 Howdy, My name is Dave Kazak, legal affairs writer with the Daily Herald in Chicago, and I very much desire an interview with an official at your company about the current, on-going battle you have with our local authorities. I've read the news release published at your new website. I've also e-mailed you before, but haven't gotten a response. I am doing a story that looks at the legality of your Website, and I'll be talking with those authorities you're battling to get their thoughts. I want to talk to you to get yours. I have questions that go beyond the info you've provided in the news release. Please give me a call at your earliest pleasure. My phone number is (847) 427-4554. My e-mail is http://dkazak@dailyherald.com. You can find our newspaper online at http://www.dailyherald.com. Thanks for you time. I hope to hear from you soon. D. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:39 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 27816 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 16:46:39 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 27813 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 16:46:39 -0000 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.92) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 16:46:39 -0000 Received: from [195.173.74.130] (helo=home.olwnet.co.uk) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13nkkC-000J8e-0Y for pr@vote-auction.com; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:46:41 +0100 Received: from [195.173.74.134] (ws3.olwnet.co.uk [195.173.74.134]) by home.olwnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10643 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:46:22 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:46:31 +0100 Subject: news item From: Dan Whitmore To: Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 32 Hello This article appeared on uk.internet.com Internet vote riggers target Europe http://www.uk.internet.com/Article/100716 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:41 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 27353 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 15:50:59 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 27350 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 15:50:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vscan-out.FOXNEWS.COM) (63.76.37.99) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 15:50:59 -0000 Received: by MILLENIUM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4WM89BCF>; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:51:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Ravve, Ruth" To: "'pr@vote-auction.com'" Subject: interview request Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:49:24 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 33 I am a producer with the Fox National News Network. I am working on a report about vote-auction.com and am interested in an interview either on camera within the United States, on the telephone or through comments on email. I can be reached at 312-494-4850 or through email at ruth.ravve@foxnews.com I look forward to hearing from you. -Ruth Ravve Fox News Channel producer From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:41 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 29547 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 20:12:51 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 29544 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 20:12:51 -0000 Received: from atlmail2.turner.com (HELO smtpgw2.turner.com) (198.81.230.197) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 20:12:51 -0000 Received: from cnn.com (993P.turner.com [157.166.83.136]) by smtpgw2.turner.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e9NKCug00211 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39F45543.C3F93DCE@cnn.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:12:03 +0100 From: Richard Stenger Organization: CNN.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: question from cnn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 34 Dear Sir or Madame, I am looking for Hans. Can you ask him to contact me please during U.S. East Coast business hours? Thank you. Richard Stenger CNN.com Sci-Tech Writer 404-827-4376 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="richard.stenger.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard Stenger Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="richard.stenger.vcf" Attachment converted: Mac OS 9:richard.stenger.vcf (TEXT/ttxt) (0000783F) From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:41 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 25719 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 13:30:37 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 25716 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 13:30:37 -0000 Received: from pop.wnyc.org (HELO wnycradio1.wnyc.org) (209.208.218.28) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 13:30:37 -0000 Received: by pop.wnyc.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:31:50 -0400 Message-ID: <40EC438273E1D311AE4200508B8BD1C9CA4CA2@pop.wnyc.org> From: ontheline@wnyc.org To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Interview for Vote-auction.com Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:31:49 -0400 Return-Receipt-To: ontheline@wnyc.org X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 35 Hello: I wrote to you before and you were kind enough to send me James Baumgartner's email and phone number. He has not responded, as of yet, and I was wondering who runs vote-auction.com now. Is there someone who could be a spokesperson for the company and explain what the site does. We would like to do a segment on election day, November 7th. Please let me know. Thank you Nuala McGovern From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:43 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 25523 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 13:10:41 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 25517 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 13:10:29 -0000 Received: from bastion.iw.com (HELO mailhost.mecklermedia.com) (firewall-user@12.0.251.2) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 13:10:29 -0000 Received: by mailhost.mecklermedia.com; id JAA22359; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(10.1.1.5) by bastion.mecklermedia.com via smap (V5.5) id xma022355; Mon, 23 Oct 00 09:10:14 -0400 Received: from [10.1.12.202] ([10.1.12.202]) by mailhost.iw.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18521 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:55:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: zipperer@10.1.1.5 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <972194390.39f282566a619@www.ubermorgen.com> References: <972194390.39f282566a619@www.ubermorgen.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:08:36 -0400 To: pr@vote-auction.com From: John Zipperer Subject: Re: Vote-auction.com back online Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 36 Vote-Auction.com: Would any executives of your company be available for a phone interview to discuss this matter? Alternatively, we could do it via e-mail; I can e-mail you questions and you can write out your answers and e-mail them back to me. Please let me know if either approach works. Thank you. --John Zipperer Assoc. Editor, Internet World jzipperer@iw.com 212-547-1827 >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >-------------------------------------------------------- > >Vote-auction.com back online > >-------------------------------------------------------- > >Berlin, October 22, 2000 > >Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com >[formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant >information on the latest developments of the site and the >people and users behind it. > >You can also find this press release at >http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm > >For any further information feel free to contact >pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. > >------------------------------------------------------- > > >[V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com > >The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com >has regained access to the web via its new domain > >http://www.vote-auction.com > >During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has >been passed concerning the website which explores the >high-risk consumer markets of the American election >industry. > >The site's original domain had been ordered shut down >by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois >earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took >their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost >everybody related to the existence of the website, the >owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy >paper for version 2.0 of the project. > > >[V] Sue 'em 'til they drop... > >The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every >effort to get the site out of service during the last >2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, >James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans >Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest >to sue: > >. domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where > the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. > It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. > . silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as > well as of one of the top technical staff are also named > defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is > vote-auction.com's internet access provider. > > >[V] (Il)legal Battle? > >It remains open for discussion how it should be possible >that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider >could ever be responsible for contents accessible via >domains they are providing routing services for. >Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total >violation of standards set by ICANN. > >We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's >name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of >repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. > >Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to >work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- >bank being involved in the legal case, the provider >"politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them >with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. >Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we >asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain >to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by >domainbank, as they had at that time already made >a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the >domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- >bank's executives. > >Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide >you with a clear statement from their president: > >"SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. > SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing > contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very > interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com > in russia and japan." > > >[V] Users give full support - despite potential respression > >Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their >support in various emails. This is another reason why >we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. >legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com >works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on >protecting any data which has been submitted to us by >trusting users. > >Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to >user rights. The court has ordered all data of users >registered with the site to be disclosed to the >authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in >Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually >for so-called "voter fraud". > > >[V] Where to go from here > >Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services >to the vital elections markets. We will keep on >focusing on the American elections until mid-November >this year. In the meantime we will also finish our >redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready >for upcoming elections worldwide. > > >For the Vote-auction.com team: > >lizvlx >[V]ote-auction.com > > >PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via > web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: > > pr@vote-auction.com > http://www.vote-auction.com > >We will not be able to receive messages sent to the >old address. Thank you. > > >[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] >[] [] >[] [V]ote-auction.com [] >[] [] >[] pr@vote-auction.com [] >[] [] >[] The Election Idustry Leader - Bringing [] >[] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] >[] [] >[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------- >This mail sent through IMP: www.ubermorgen.com -- ___ John Zipperer Associate Editor Internet World magazine www.internetworld.com 250 Park Avenue South, 10th floor New York, NY 10003 mailto:zipperer@iw.com 212-547-1827 Internet World is part of the Penton Media family of products. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:45 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 23706 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 09:25:03 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 23703 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 09:25:03 -0000 Received: from mail.gatrixx.de (HELO bln-fw.gatrixx.de) (195.127.198.135) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 09:25:03 -0000 Received: from mail.gatrixx.de by bln-fw.gatrixx.de via smtpd (for [62.116.31.68]) with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 09:25:05 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <97754A2768C7D311BD11009027DCC9937C8645@mail.gatrixx.de> From: Susanne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4dlich?= To: "'pr@vote-auction.com'" Subject: interview Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:24:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 37 Dear Hans Bernhard, dear Operators of Vote-auction.com: de.internt.com is a German Online News Magazine, specializing in Marketing and Technology News. We have been reporting recently about your Site (supporting your efforts of "Bringing Capitalism and Democracy Closer Together"). We would like to do an e-Mail interview with you about your Site, your motives etc. Please, contact Achim Sawall, Editor, at: achim@de.internet.com In hope for a positive resonse and looking forward to hearing from you soon. Susanne Schädlich Editor de.internet.com Am Kalrsbad 11 10875 Berlin Germany Tel: 49-30-206 03 223 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:48 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 22975 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 06:12:05 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 22972 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 06:12:05 -0000 Received: from mail2.panix.com (166.84.0.213) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 06:12:05 -0000 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.0.228]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FE68FA9; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 02:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by panix3.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) with ESMTP id CAA10008; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 02:11:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: panix3.panix.com: cp owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 02:11:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Platt To: pr@vote-auction.com Cc: cp@panix.com Subject: publicity Message-ID: Errors-To: cp@panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 38 Hi-- I've been following your exploits with amusement and amazement. Who would have thought that you'd get people so excited? I always assumed that votes are bought routinely in the political process. I'm a senior writer at Wired magazine. Unfortunately Wired has a very long lead time (usually, 3 months from the time I start researching and writing, to the date when the article is published). Consequently I cannot write about topical, fast-moving events. But, I'm wondering what your plans are, AFTER the election. At that time, I assume events may unfold a little more slowly. --Charles Platt PS. Sure hope you have vote_auction.com registered. Just in case. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:50 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 22189 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 02:53:40 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 22186 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 02:53:40 -0000 Received: from mail11a.verio-web.com (HELO mail-fwd.verio-web.com) (161.58.16.57) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 02:53:40 -0000 Received: from 161.58.104.158 (161.58.104.158) by mail11a.verio-web.com (RS ver 1.0.57s) with SMTP id 02613069 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001022225102.009b2370@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: tgw/technodemocracy.org@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:55:13 -0400 To: From: Thom Wysong Subject: vote-auction.com article & feedback X-Loop-Detect: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 39 Earlier today (Sunday) I wrote up an article on your web site. I believe the article is factually correct. However, if you find any errors in it, please let me know so that I can correct them. The article is at ... http://technodemocracy.org/people/tgw/docs/voteauction-whackamole.html Thank you. -Thom Wysong From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:51 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 20881 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 21:14:38 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 20878 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 21:14:37 -0000 Received: from smtp-out003.onemain.com (HELO smtp04.mail.onemain.com) (63.208.208.73) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 21:14:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4956 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 21:14:17 -0000 Received: from 216-224-155-82.thegrid.net (HELO oemcomputer) ([216.224.155.82]) (envelope-sender ) by 10.209.20.34 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Oct 2000 21:14:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c03c6d$31962840$002dfea9@oemcomputer> From: "Mike Thornton" To: Subject: News Interview Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:15:22 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 40 News Interview
I'd like to arrange to have someone as a guest for our news program.
I'm looking at 4-5 minutes via phone.
I hope you can help me with this?
Thanks and I hope to hear from you ASAP!
Mike Thornton
Public Affairs Director/News Producer
KVMR-FM Radio
http://www.kvmr.org
530-265-9073
People's Tribune Radio
Executive Producer
http://www.ptradio.org
Western Slopes News Service
Co-Producer
From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:51 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 20881 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 21:14:38 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 20878 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 21:14:37 -0000 Received: from smtp-out003.onemain.com (HELO smtp04.mail.onemain.com) (63.208.208.73) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 21:14:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4956 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 21:14:17 -0000 Received: from 216-224-155-82.thegrid.net (HELO oemcomputer) ([216.224.155.82]) (envelope-sender ) by 10.209.20.34 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Oct 2000 21:14:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c03c6d$31962840$002dfea9@oemcomputer> From: "Mike Thornton" To: Subject: News Interview Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:15:22 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 41 News Interview
I'd like to arrange to have someone as a guest for our news program.
I'm looking at 4-5 minutes via phone.
I hope you can help me with this?
Thanks and I hope to hear from you ASAP!
Mike Thornton
Public Affairs Director/News Producer
KVMR-FM Radio
http://www.kvmr.org
530-265-9073
People's Tribune Radio
Executive Producer
http://www.ptradio.org
Western Slopes News Service
Co-Producer
From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:51 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 18555 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 13:27:06 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 18552 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 13:27:06 -0000 Received: from imo-r12.mx.aol.com (HELO imo-r12.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 13:27:06 -0000 Received: from ZMAN122148@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.31.) id x.69.c07fb73 (4545) for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 09:26:37 -0400 (EDT) From: ZMAN122148@aol.com Message-ID: <69.c07fb73.2724450c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 09:26:36 EDT Subject: an inquiry from a reporter To: pr@vote-auction.com X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 42 Thank you for your press release. I do have some questions, however, including: Is Vote-auction.com set up to allow votes to be bought and sold, as with Voteauction.com? I've gone to your new site and read the press release, but I'm not clear on this. Are the Vote-auction.com investors also investors in Silver Server, or vice versa? I don't see the state-by-state chart on the new site. Is that because you can't lift it from the old site? Are the owners of Vote-auction.com doing this as a serious business venture or to make a political statement? Also, if possible, can you please respond with a name, so I can attribute the information to "spokesman or spokeswoman so-and-so." Thanks. Richard Zitrin APBnews.com From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:51 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 19673 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 17:07:50 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 19670 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 17:07:50 -0000 Received: from pop.gmx.net (HELO mail.gmx.net) (194.221.183.20) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 17:07:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 30281 invoked by uid 0); 22 Oct 2000 17:07:29 -0000 Received: from f-194-96.cvx.ipdial.viaginterkom.de (HELO ?62.180.194.96?) (62.180.194.96) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 17:07:29 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 13:07:09 +0200 Subject: Re: Vote-auction.com back online From: Gesine Wulf To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <972194487.39f282b7657f9@www.ubermorgen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 43 Hello Hans and Liz, gute Arbeit, die Seite im neuen Look und die Presseerklärung Gesine From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:52 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 17921 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 07:28:06 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 17918 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 07:28:06 -0000 Received: from deep13.wlcg.com (209.9.101.95) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 07:28:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (rdent@localhost) by deep13.wlcg.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/Debian 8.11.0-6) with ESMTP id e9M7QVD05376 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:26:31 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:26:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Denton To: pr@vote-auction.com Subject: Re: Vote-auction.com back online In-Reply-To: <972193663.39f27f7f91719@www.ubermorgen.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 44 Thanks for including a list of recipients, you stupid fucks. I'm glad I didn't actually register for your service. Way to go! From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:53 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 17880 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 06:48:42 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 17877 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2000 06:48:42 -0000 Received: from wugate.wustl.edu (128.252.120.1) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 22 Oct 2000 06:48:42 -0000 Received: from borcim.wustl.edu (borcim.wustl.edu [128.252.171.1]) by wugate.wustl.edu (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id e9M6meG13862 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [128.252.171.39] ([128.252.171.39]) by borcim.wustl.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA21403 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:41:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <972194235.39f281bb93e29@www.ubermorgen.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:53:42 -0500 To: pr@vote-auction.com From: joseph vogel Subject: Re: Vote-auction.com back online Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 why??? this is totally illegal, you stupid pieces of shit! > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Vote-auction.com back online > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Berlin, October 22, 2000 > > Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com > [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant > information on the latest developments of the site and the > people and users behind it. > > You can also find this press release at > http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm > > For any further information feel free to contact > pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > [V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com > > The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com > has regained access to the web via its new domain > > http://www.vote-auction.com > > During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has > been passed concerning the website which explores the > high-risk consumer markets of the American election > industry. > > The site's original domain had been ordered shut down > by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois > earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took > their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost > everybody related to the existence of the website, the > owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy > paper for version 2.0 of the project. > > > [V] Sue 'em 'til they drop... > > The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every > effort to get the site out of service during the last > 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, > James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans > Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest > to sue: > > . domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where > the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. > It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. > > . silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as > well as of one of the top technical staff are also named > defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is > vote-auction.com's internet access provider. > > > [V] (Il)legal Battle? > > It remains open for discussion how it should be possible > that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider > could ever be responsible for contents accessible via > domains they are providing routing services for. > Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total > violation of standards set by ICANN. > > We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's > name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of > repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. > > Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to > work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- > bank being involved in the legal case, the provider > "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them > with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. > Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we > asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain > to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by > domainbank, as they had at that time already made > a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the > domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- > bank's executives. > > Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide > you with a clear statement from their president: > > "SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. > SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing > contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very > interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com > in russia and japan." > > > [V] Users give full support - despite potential respression > > Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their > support in various emails. This is another reason why > we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. > legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com > works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on > protecting any data which has been submitted to us by > trusting users. > > Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to > user rights. The court has ordered all data of users > registered with the site to be disclosed to the > authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in > Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually > for so-called "voter fraud". > > > [V] Where to go from here > > Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services > to the vital elections markets. We will keep on > focusing on the American elections until mid-November > this year. In the meantime we will also finish our > redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready > for upcoming elections worldwide. > > > For the Vote-auction.com team: > > lizvlx > [V]ote-auction.com > > > PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via > web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: > > pr@vote-auction.com > http://www.vote-auction.com > > We will not be able to receive messages sent to the > old address. Thank you. > > > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > [] [] > [] [V]ote-auction.com [] > [] [] > [] pr@vote-auction.com [] > [] [] > [] The Election Idustry Leader - Bringing [] > [] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] > [] [] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------- >This mail sent through IMP: www.ubermorgen.com Joseph P. Vogel Assistant Professor Washington University School of Medicine Dept. Molecular Microbiology/Box 8230 660 S. Euclid Ave. St. Louis, MO 63108 314-747-1029 (office) 314-747-1030 (lab) 314-362-3203 (fax) From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:53 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 1833 invoked by alias); 21 Oct 2000 00:24:14 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 1830 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2000 00:24:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-fwd.verio-web.com) (161.58.16.59) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 21 Oct 2000 00:24:14 -0000 Received: from 161.58.104.158 (161.58.104.158) by mail11b.verio-web.com (RS ver 1.0.57s) with SMTP id 01529448; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001020201916.00a49710@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: tgw/technodemocracy.org@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:21:45 -0400 To: pr@voteauction.com,pr@vote-auction.com From: Thom Wysong Subject: Vote Auction Access X-Loop-Detect: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 46 When you get your vote auction site back online, I'd be interested in hearing how to access it. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:53 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 20260 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2000 09:23:29 -0000 Received: from www.gmx.net (HELO www14.gmx.net) (194.221.183.54) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 20 Oct 2000 09:23:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 2886 invoked by uid 0); 20 Oct 2000 09:23:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:23:05 +0200 (MEST) From: Gesine Wulf To: Liz@ubermorgen.com, Hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: ?everything ok? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0002099064@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.170.110.133] Message-ID: <2739.972033785@www14.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 47 Servus Liz und Hans, wollte sowieso noch danken für das Interview, und fragen, wie ich Hans eigentlich titulieren soll: Investor? Besitzer? Betreiber? CEO? von vote ... Aber habe gerade gesehen, die Adresse ist down, so: WAS IST DAS? Wann seid Ihr wieder online? Neue Probleme? Der Geheimdienst in Berlin? Bin leicht beunruhigt, und hoffe dringend, dass es keinen Gund dazu gibt. Sondern Ihr munter und realxed seid und die Geschichte auch noch nicht vorbei. Wenn Du das noch bestätigen könntest und ich weiß, wann die Seite wieder auf dem Bildschrim ist, wäre das nur gut. Tel: 29381214 es lebe die eRevolution, Gesine lizard From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:54 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 25302 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2000 01:35:01 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.11?) (212.186.130.182) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 30 Aug 2000 01:35:01 -0000 X-Sender: hans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200008251418.KAA03781@mail1.javanet.com> References: <200008251418.KAA03781@mail1.javanet.com> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:27:13 +0200 To: Mark Anderson From: sandra baierl Subject: Re: WIRED News Voteauction.com story Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 48 >Dear Mr. Bernhard-- Dear Mr. Anderson My name is Sandra Baierl, i am the chief secretary of Mister Hans Bernhard. We did receive your email and Mister Bernhard has answered it within a couple of business-days. We do hope this communications problem was not our mistake! Mister Bernhard will be available at almost anytime for your call. His mobile phone number is +43 676 930 00 61, additionally you can try +43 1 968 10 22. Please call him between 8am and 11pm CET any day, including sat/sun. Underneath you find the prepared and again worked-over answers by Mister Bernhard. Mister Bernhard is looking forward to talk with the Journalist who helped us and even more voteauction.com, our new business-venture, to such great publicity! With best regards Sandra Baierl sandra@ubermorgen.com ---22.08.2000 / 19:45--- dear mark the deal has just been closed and i am very happy to be the new owner of this fantastic domain and the related business along with it! i think that this is a great opportunity for a foreign investor to capitalize on the american election industry. in fact, there are many other new american industries that i am considering investing in, including the prison industry. america continues to privatize many of its public sectors, and this presents many opportunities for the foreign investor. >I'm an American reporter for WIRED News, and I spoke with James >Baumgartner this afternoon (3:30 p.m. New York time). He indicated that >you had bought Voteauction.com. I have several questions for you related >to this sale: > >1) Do you plan on continuing the operation of Voteauction.com? If so, >will your Voteauction.com operate with the same policies as >Voteauction.com under Baumgartner's direction? the weird thing here is that we all fully agree with the people who are outraged by this thing, this voteauction.com! but, we do know how votes are bought, and we want it to be possible to buy votes directly from and to the voter - and we want the corporations to pay directly to the voters and not to other companies via the presidental candidate-commities. we consider our venture as a challenge to the existing b2b-election market. the transformation into a b2c market is our goal! we want a big piece of this cake. so, yes.. we do plan to continue this service. we might include some minor changes, but we dont expect to make fundamental changes. speed is the key! the site is up; the technical implementation is currently ongoing. we expect it to be ready within the next 2-3 busines-days. >2) It has been pointed out -- in, for instance, the story I wrote last >week about Voteauction for WIRED News (*) -- that the buying and selling >of votes is illegal under the laws of every state in the U.S. In New York >state, for instance, it's considered a felony in both several state laws >and in the state constitution. If you do indeed plan on continuing >Voteauction.com selling U.S. votes, how do you plan to contend with the >many potential criminal indictments -- for both Voteauction and its >participants -- that could arise as a result? we have been under investigation by american legal institutions several times over the last years. i expect the result of this voteauction-deal to be pretty edgy. but what can you do? if you enter a new field, worst case scenarios are the key to success. and high-risk ventures most definitely are our prefered business-lifestyle. if we do run into serious legal troubles we will just delegate this business to one of our offshore companies, and they are definitely and perfectly out of reach! >3) What were the terms of the sale? Were there any requirements Mr. >Baumgartner put on the operations of the site? Were there any terms that >you required before you would buy Voteauction? both parties have signed a contract including various non- disclosures. >I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. >I'm the reporter for WIRED News who first brought Voteauction.com to the >public's attention. I'm now working on a story for WIRED that will cover >its transition from graduate student Master of Fine Arts thesis project >to (as I understand it) bonafide business venture. I have several >questions below which I emailed earlier this week but perhaps may not >have successfully delivered to your email box. (I suspect I put the wrong >email address on my previous communication....) Please consider these >questions and get back to me with your comments. Also, would you be >available for a telephone interview sometime next week? > >Thank you for your time, > >Mark K. Anderson >WIRED News >Northampton, Mass. USA >mkanders@javanet.com >(413) 586-8961 / (253) 399-3201 fax > >> >>1) Do you plan on continuing the operation of Voteauction.com? If so, will >>your Voteauction.com operate with the same policies as Voteauction.com >>under Baumgartner's direction? >> >>2) It has been pointed out -- in, for instance, the story I wrote last >>week about Voteauction for WIRED News (*) -- that the buying and selling >>of votes is illegal under the laws of every state in the U.S. In New York >>state, for instance, it's considered a felony in both several state laws >>and in the state constitution. If you do indeed plan on continuing >>Voteauction.com selling U.S. votes, how do you plan to contend with the >>many potential criminal indictments -- for both Voteauction and its >>participants -- that could arise as a result? >> >>3) What were the terms of the sale? Were there any requirements Mr. >>Baumgartner put on the operations of the site? Were there any terms that >>you required before you would buy Voteauction? >> > >"Close Vote? You Can Bid On It" >17 Aug. 2000 >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,38229,00.html > >"Voteauction Bids The Dust" >22 Aug. 2000 >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,38355,00.html From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:54 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 25281 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2000 01:27:59 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.11?) (212.186.130.182) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 30 Aug 2000 01:27:59 -0000 X-Sender: hans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000501c01040$d2f07820$030aa8c0@tngbbs.com> References: <000501c01040$d2f07820$030aa8c0@tngbbs.com> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:20:12 +0200 To: "Scott Turchin" From: sandra baierl Subject: Re: Your site voteauction.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 49 dear sir thank you for sharing your thoughts with us! we are with you! we will help you earn money by selling your vote and not giving it away for free as it was until voteauction.com entered the market. we do not have morals and we are proud about it, we are white male middleclass mid-europeans [although i am a woman, but i feel and think and act like a white male middle-class mid-european]. and... we are way closer to the place where democracy was founded than you! so it might be that we are just developed higher as a culture and therefore have a better view on future-developments. best regards sandra baierl sandra@ubermorgen.com >You are about as unorthodox and anti-American as it gets. >I would not be suprised if you received death threats in relation to >what you are doing. >You can't sell out America this way. >If you don't like it, LEAVE. Or follow the constitution for the >LEGAL process of how to change government. > >What you are doing is traitorous, we don't need any more foreign >influence on our government. > >I wouldn't be suprised if your site is hacked soon. Even our hackers >have SOME MORALS. > >I can't believe you two, you are pathetic pieces of SHIT. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 14:21:55 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 24846 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2000 23:39:26 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.11?) (212.186.130.182) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 29 Aug 2000 23:39:26 -0000 X-Sender: ubermorgen@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 01:31:38 +0200 To: Andreas.Roesler@DerStandard.at From: ubermorgen Subject: voteauction.com, ihre anfrage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 50 sg. herr roesler ich wurde soeben von unserem pr-dept. via james baumgartner ueber ihre anfrage zum voteauction.com-venture informiert. wir sind soeben in dieses high-risk business eingestiegen und werden die amerik. wahlen als testlauf / piloten fuer die entwicklung eines kommerziellen systems zum verkauf von waehler-stimmen nutzen. wir halten z.b. deutschland und england fuer sehr interessante zukunfts-maerkte. mehr dazu finden sie auf u.a. auf cnn.com: http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/08/24/internet.vote/index.html bitte kontaktieren sie mich bei bedarf unter hans@ubermorgen.com oder tel. +43 676 930 00 61 mfg/ hans bernhard -- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:40:03 +0200 From: Roesler Andreas To: "'baumgj@rpi.edu'" Subject: voteauction.com Dear James Baumgartner, I am online editor of the Austrian newspaper "Der Standard" (http:/derStandard.at) and i've read about voteauction.com on the "Industry Standard" homepage, where they say that you have sold the domain and content to an austrian e-commerce developer. So my question is: Could you tell me who this e-commerce developer is? with kind regards, Andreas Roesler-Schmidt derStandard.at andreas.roesler@derStandard.at http://derStandard.at/web -- 1.........2.........3.........4.........5.........6.........7 : : : : : : : ::u:b:e:r:m:o:r:g:e:n.c:o:m:: : : : : : : : : ............................................................. if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere! office@ubermorgen.com phone:+43[01]968.1022 ICQ:: 3 8 3 0 2 0 2 2 From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Feb 12 15:06:02 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 30300 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2000 00:09:28 -0000 Received: from 212186130182.15.vie.surfer.at (HELO ?192.168.0.11?) (212.186.130.182) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 27 Aug 2000 00:09:28 -0000 X-Sender: play@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:02:18 +0200 To: 7-11@mila.ljudmila.org From: net_CALLBOY Subject: voteauction.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 63 one hot thing... http://www.voteauction.com --> voteauction.com powered by ubermorgen.com [AND IT IS a criminal offense!?, but... just in the US!?] HAHAHA... enjoy! to get the connection, check this one!:: http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/08/24/internet.vote/index.html FULL press-archive under: http://rtmark.com/allpress.html#vot hans_extrem/etoy.HANS -- 1.........2.........3.........4.........5.........6.........7 : : : : : : : ::u:b:e:r:m:o:r:g:e:n.c:o:m:: : : : : : : : : ............................................................. if you dont get help from us, please get help somewhere! hans@ubermorgen.com m:+43[0]676.9300061 ICQ 3 8 3 0 2 0 2 2 From jennifer@rhizome.org Thu Feb 08 00:03:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 77950 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 2001 00:03:12 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.net Received: (qmail 77947 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 00:03:11 -0000 Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 00:03:11 -0000 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id TAA00683; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:04:51 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from RHIZOME-219QCSP ([208.37.187.61]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id TAA06563; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:04:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010207190044.01d435d8@rhizome.org> X-Sender: jennifer@rhizome.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:02:45 -0500 To: "[V]ote-auction PR" From: Jennifer Crowe Subject: Re: Art Object Submission--[V]ote-auction In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.20010131163703.01917bf8@rhizome.org> <4.2.0.58.20010131163703.01917bf8@rhizome.org> <4.2.0.58.20010205182530.020c8a90@rhizome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 64 no problem at all. where are you, anyway? =) At 10:28 AM 2/6/2001 +0100, you wrote: >hi jen > >>I know exactly where the Voteauction guys are coming from. >>But it is my job to get the facts right, I would hope you would understand. > >i thought i drop a note;; > >never got in touch with you so far... sorry that >i am no guy though ;) > >is there a problem - with the facts i mean - no, >just kidding. > >for the [V]ote-auction team, >lizvlx > > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.net > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.net . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From gthomas@whdh.com Mon Nov 06 23:29:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 83540 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 23:29:02 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 83537 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 23:29:01 -0000 Received: from mail.whdh.com (HELO whdh.com) (206.113.53.3) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 23:29:01 -0000 Received: from WHDHTV-Message_Server by whdh.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:27:09 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:26:52 -0500 From: "Garvin Thomas" To: Subject: Re: Press Contact Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 65 lizvlx, thanks for your help today. good luck, garvin >>> "PR [V]ote-auction.com" 11/06/00 06:24PM >>> that is always the case i guess. but comparing with "you can also use a car to kill some-one" would be a sorry comparison, nevertheless true. lizvlx >lizvlx, > >so you provided the forum, and the users decided how they would use it? > >garvin > >>>> "PR [V]ote-auction.com" 11/06/00 04:35PM >>> > > dear garvin, > > no, i guess you cannot say that. > > up to now, we have provided nothing but an open > platform for voters and maybe-voters. > > to broker votes, we would have needed to > already bring the people together, which we have > not. > > best > lizvlx > >>dear lizvlx, >> >>would it be proper to say that, instead of selling votes, you are >>brokering the sale of votes? >> >>garvin >> >>>>> "PR [V]ote-auction.com" 11/06/00 11:51AM >>> >> >> dear garvin, >> >> well, we are kinda aware, the courts in the >> u.s. really are not trying too hard in informing >> us about court dates...you know, it takes some >> time for official letters to travel from >> boston to vienna... >> >> basically, the boston legal suit claims that >> we/voteauction is engaged in the "selling of >> votes for the presidential elections". >> >> we can 100% state that we are NOT selling any >> votes whatsoever on our site(s). we are >> primarily a platform for interested users >> and voters, and maybe-voters of the election. >> we provide a platform for OPEN DISCUSSION >> about the way in which the elections/campaigns >> are being financed. >> not a single vote has ever been sold. >> is is nothing but a poor excuse to sue us for >> "selling of votes" - a poor excuse to cover up >> the fact that open discussion is not being >> favored by u.s. authorities - when it comes >> down to the subject of campaign financing. >> >> which is strange, as even larry purpuro, >> executive at bush's offices, states: >> >> "..at the moment, we are only using 10% of >> the capacities of campaing financing via >> the internet. we are planning on collecting >> at least 50% of all donations online in a >> period of 3 years." >> >> appearantly, if the parties do it, it's ok, >> if we just talk about doing it, it is illegal. >> >> best >> lizvlx >> >>>Greetings, >>> >>>As I am sure you are aware, today in Boston, Massachusetts the >>>Attorney General is going to court to shut down your web site. >>> >>>I am a reporter with WHDH-TV, the local NBC station in Boston, and I >>>will be covering that hearing this afternoon. I would, of course, >>>like to hear your side of the story. >>> >>>We can do the interview via e-mail (gthomas@whdh.com), or live chat >>>if that is possible. >>> >>>Look forward to hearing from you, >>> >>>Garvin Thomas >>>WHDH-TV >>>617-248-5455 >> >>-- >> . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> http://www.vote-auction.com=20 >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> >> bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! >> >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >-- > . . 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From gthomas@whdh.com Mon Nov 06 21:37:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 81875 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 21:37:51 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 81872 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 21:37:51 -0000 Received: from mail.whdh.com (HELO whdh.com) (206.113.53.3) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 21:37:51 -0000 Received: from WHDHTV-Message_Server by whdh.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:38:22 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:38:11 -0500 From: "Garvin Thomas" To: Subject: Re: Press Contact Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 66 lizvlx, so you provided the forum, and the users decided how they would use it? garvin >>> "PR [V]ote-auction.com" 11/06/00 04:35PM >>> dear garvin, no, i guess you cannot say that. up to now, we have provided nothing but an open platform for voters and maybe-voters. to broker votes, we would have needed to already bring the people together, which we have not. best lizvlx >dear lizvlx, > >would it be proper to say that, instead of selling votes, you are=20 >brokering the sale of votes? > >garvin > >>>> "PR [V]ote-auction.com" 11/06/00 11:51AM >>> > > dear garvin, > > well, we are kinda aware, the courts in the > u.s. really are not trying too hard in informing > us about court dates...you know, it takes some > time for official letters to travel from > boston to vienna... > > basically, the boston legal suit claims that > we/voteauction is engaged in the "selling of > votes for the presidential elections". > > we can 100% state that we are NOT selling any > votes whatsoever on our site(s). we are > primarily a platform for interested users > and voters, and maybe-voters of the election. > we provide a platform for OPEN DISCUSSION > about the way in which the elections/campaigns > are being financed. > not a single vote has ever been sold. > is is nothing but a poor excuse to sue us for > "selling of votes" - a poor excuse to cover up > the fact that open discussion is not being > favored by u.s. authorities - when it comes > down to the subject of campaign financing. > > which is strange, as even larry purpuro, > executive at bush's offices, states: > > "..at the moment, we are only using 10% of > the capacities of campaing financing via > the internet. we are planning on collecting > at least 50% of all donations online in a > period of 3 years." > > appearantly, if the parties do it, it's ok, > if we just talk about doing it, it is illegal. > > best > lizvlx > >>Greetings, >> >>As I am sure you are aware, today in Boston, Massachusetts the >>Attorney General is going to court to shut down your web site. >> >>I am a reporter with WHDH-TV, the local NBC station in Boston, and I >>will be covering that hearing this afternoon. I would, of course, >>like to hear your side of the story. >> >>We can do the interview via e-mail (gthomas@whdh.com), or live chat >>if that is possible. >> >>Look forward to hearing from you, >> >>Garvin Thomas >>WHDH-TV >>617-248-5455 > >-- > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com=20 > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --=20 . . 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From gthomas@whdh.com Mon Nov 06 20:23:03 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 80700 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 20:23:03 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 80697 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from mail.whdh.com (HELO whdh.com) (206.113.53.3) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from WHDHTV-Message_Server by whdh.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:23:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:23:30 -0500 From: "Garvin Thomas" To: Subject: Re: Press Contact Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 67 dear lizvlx, would it be proper to say that, instead of selling votes, you are = brokering the sale of votes? garvin >>> "PR [V]ote-auction.com" 11/06/00 11:51AM >>> dear garvin, well, we are kinda aware, the courts in the u.s. really are not trying too hard in informing us about court dates...you know, it takes some time for official letters to travel from boston to vienna... basically, the boston legal suit claims that we/voteauction is engaged in the "selling of votes for the presidential elections". we can 100% state that we are NOT selling any votes whatsoever on our site(s). we are primarily a platform for interested users and voters, and maybe-voters of the election. we provide a platform for OPEN DISCUSSION about the way in which the elections/campaigns are being financed. not a single vote has ever been sold. is is nothing but a poor excuse to sue us for "selling of votes" - a poor excuse to cover up the fact that open discussion is not being favored by u.s. authorities - when it comes down to the subject of campaign financing. which is strange, as even larry purpuro, executive at bush's offices, states: "..at the moment, we are only using 10% of the capacities of campaing financing via the internet. we are planning on collecting at least 50% of all donations online in a period of 3 years." appearantly, if the parties do it, it's ok, if we just talk about doing it, it is illegal. best lizvlx >Greetings, > >As I am sure you are aware, today in Boston, Massachusetts the=20 >Attorney General is going to court to shut down your web site. > >I am a reporter with WHDH-TV, the local NBC station in Boston, and I=20 >will be covering that hearing this afternoon. I would, of course,=20 >like to hear your side of the story. > >We can do the interview via e-mail (gthomas@whdh.com), or live chat=20 >if that is possible. > >Look forward to hearing from you, > >Garvin Thomas >WHDH-TV >617-248-5455 --=20 . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.vote-auction.com=20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From gthomas@whdh.com Mon Nov 06 16:04:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 76803 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 16:04:04 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 76800 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 16:04:02 -0000 Received: from mail.whdh.com (HELO whdh.com) (206.113.53.3) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 16:04:02 -0000 Received: from WHDHTV-Message_Server by whdh.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:04:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:04:22 -0500 From: "Garvin Thomas" To: Subject: Press Contact Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 68 Greetings, As I am sure you are aware, today in Boston, Massachusetts the Attorney = General is going to court to shut down your web site. I am a reporter with WHDH-TV, the local NBC station in Boston, and I will = be covering that hearing this afternoon. I would, of course, like to hear = your side of the story. We can do the interview via e-mail (gthomas@whdh.com), or live chat if = that is possible. Look forward to hearing from you, Garvin Thomas WHDH-TV 617-248-5455 From jrothman@webrise.net Sat Dec 02 06:58:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 45732 invoked by alias); 2 Dec 2000 06:58:04 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 45729 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2000 06:58:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO backup.safepages.com) (216.127.146.2) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2000 06:58:03 -0000 Received: from webrise (01-048.050.popsite.net [64.24.144.48]) by backup.safepages.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E467E70BF6 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2000 15:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Joel Rothman" To: "[V] ote-auction. com" Subject: my last e-mail Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 02:03:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 69 Have not heard back from you since the last message. Any comment on my question about art? Joel B. Rothman Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. 2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West Boca Raton, FL 33431 561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com http://www.seidenlaw.com NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: Joel Rothman [mailto:jrothman@webrise.net] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 8:33 AM To: PR [V]ote-auction.com Subject: RE: your article I didn't see a link to the gigalaw.com discussion list in the press area on your site. Here's a link to where the thread starts: http://www.gigalaw.com/archives/0010/gigalaw-discuss-0010-00123.html I agree with the author of this first linked message. Please let me have your comments on it at your convenience. I originally was thinking about asking you questions about the political message conveyed by the voteauction site, your political views, and things of that nature. Then I looked at the biographical material you linked me to. Now my question is a little different. Is voteauction.com art? If so, please explain. Thank you. Joel B. Rothman Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. 2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West Boca Raton, FL 33431 561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com http://www.seidenlaw.com NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:21 AM To: Joel B. Rothman Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: RE: your article sure, just mail me a list of questions, and i'll answer. cv's/bio here we go:: first me (hehe), then hans. best, lizvlx ########start bio lizvlx / elisabeth haas ####### 2000 lecture at micro lounge, berlin lecture at last tuesday, berlin lecture at berlinbeta3.0, berlin development of voteauction.com / voteauction.at with j.baumgartner founding of bannster.net together with hans_extrem and carl@micromusic.org founding of ubermorgen.org [austrian widerstand/resistance site] working for the following clients at ubermorgen.com: skim.com · cyberhelvetia.ch · sil.at · micromusic.net · cittadelarte.it phalanx.cc · rosa.com · trendbuero/msn.de · sumosushi.de 1999 lecture at SEAFair99, skopke, macedonia, "VR is in y/head" founding of ubermorgen.com together with hans_extrem founding of ubermorgen.net together with hans_extrem and erica dubach project work for R.O.S.A. internet escorts, zurich management (vice president) of ogilvy interactive, vienna founding of etxtreme.ru together with hans_extrem 1998 ars electronica, faces project & website mba university of economics, vienna continous work on 194.152.164.137 [userunfriendly] / http://toilet.sil.at 1997-1995 founding of 194.152.164.137 [userunfriendly] together with andrea mayr diverse web.projects 1994-1992 studies at the academy of fine arts, vienna studies at the university of economics, vienna 1991-1980 school in salzburg/at highschool in ny/usa 30.01. 1973 born in linz, austria ######start bio hans_extrem/etoy.HANS/luzius bernhard######## 2000 founder and CEO of ubermorgen.com, vienna/austria http://www.ubermorgen.com ubermorgen.org / WWWiderstand; resistance-net http://www.ubermorgen.org 1999 founder of ubermorgen.net [network of digital uberbrains] http://www.ubermorgen.net founder etxtreme.ru [read fast! think later!] http://www.etxtreme.ru magister artium [M.F.A.], university of applied arts [uaa], vienna prof. peter weibel 1994-1999 etoy http://www.etoy.com :: etoy.TIMEZONE :: etoy.TANK-17 :: etoy.SHARES :: protected by etoy :: the digital hijack :: etoy.TANKSYSTEM :: etoy.PROMOTION :: etoy.VISUALS :: founder of etoy ; radical computer-animation raves/events/movies text digital [wordwar, tanz du sau] techno-music producer/lyrics [etoy.SOUND] 1995-96 acting experimental and feature films in europe 1974-1991 childhood and work in switzerland 1971 born in yale, ct >Thanks for the reply. If it is okay with you I would like to compose a list >of questions and e-mail these to you. Also, if you have a bio of yourself I >would like to receive that. > >Joel B. Rothman >Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. >2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West >Boca Raton, FL 33431 >561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 >reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com >http://www.seidenlaw.com > >NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm >of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be >privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the >use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any >disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message >is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the >sender immediately. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:11 PM >To: Joel B. Rothman >Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >Subject: RE: your article > > > > dear joel, > > thanks for getting back, and btw i was too quick > anwering your mail - i saw later that i was you > who not only wrote the article but also sent me > the notification of the article. > > that just as a note.. > > regarding: > >>Would you be interested in answering some more questions and >>discussing theissues further for an expanded article I would >>like to write? > >absolutely, we are particularily interested in the legal >aspects that voteauction is now being more and more confronted >with (seems to be another parallel to the actual elections ;). > >and as i said, i considered your article well researched and >phrased, so i would gladly answer further questions you might >have. > >sincerely, > >lizvlx > > > >>I only knew about the Chicago injunction at the time I went to press. >Also, >>I could not find your domain where you relocated so I could not put it in >my >>article. I know it now. >> >> >> >>Joel B. Rothman >>Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. >>2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West >>Boca Raton, FL 33431 >>561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 >>reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com >>http://www.seidenlaw.com >> >>NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm >>of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be >>privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the >>use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any >>disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message >>is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the >>sender immediately. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >>Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:15 AM >>To: jrothman@seidenlaw.com >>Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >>Subject: your article >> >> >> >> dear mr rothman, >> >> i enjoyed very much reading your article, i found it >> very well put and researched. >> >> however, there are just a few notes i would like to >> add: >> >> . not only chicago has issued restraining orders and >> injunctions, but also missouri (they are claiming >> consumer rights violations, wrongful promise etc), >> also wisconsin and massachussetts have issued >> comparable legal orders. >> . voteauction is still online, it can be accessed >> via >> http://www.voteauction.at and >> http://voteauction.de and our IP >> http://62.116.31.68 >> >> best, >> lizvlx, [V]ote-auction >>-- >> . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> http://www.vote-auction.com >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> >> bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! >> >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >-- > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From jrothman@webrise.net Sun Nov 26 13:28:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 26434 invoked by alias); 26 Nov 2000 13:28:46 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 26431 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2000 13:28:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO backup.safepages.com) (216.127.146.2) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2000 13:28:45 -0000 Received: from webrise (01-022.050.popsite.net [64.24.144.22]) by backup.safepages.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CB27B7097A for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:40:54 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Joel Rothman" To: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" Subject: RE: your article Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 08:33:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 70 I didn't see a link to the gigalaw.com discussion list in the press area on your site. Here's a link to where the thread starts: http://www.gigalaw.com/archives/0010/gigalaw-discuss-0010-00123.html I agree with the author of this first linked message. Please let me have your comments on it at your convenience. I originally was thinking about asking you questions about the political message conveyed by the voteauction site, your political views, and things of that nature. Then I looked at the biographical material you linked me to. Now my question is a little different. Is voteauction.com art? If so, please explain. Thank you. Joel B. Rothman Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. 2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West Boca Raton, FL 33431 561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com http://www.seidenlaw.com NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:21 AM To: Joel B. Rothman Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: RE: your article sure, just mail me a list of questions, and i'll answer. cv's/bio here we go:: first me (hehe), then hans. best, lizvlx ########start bio lizvlx / elisabeth haas ####### 2000 lecture at micro lounge, berlin lecture at last tuesday, berlin lecture at berlinbeta3.0, berlin development of voteauction.com / voteauction.at with j.baumgartner founding of bannster.net together with hans_extrem and carl@micromusic.org founding of ubermorgen.org [austrian widerstand/resistance site] working for the following clients at ubermorgen.com: skim.com · cyberhelvetia.ch · sil.at · micromusic.net · cittadelarte.it phalanx.cc · rosa.com · trendbuero/msn.de · sumosushi.de 1999 lecture at SEAFair99, skopke, macedonia, "VR is in y/head" founding of ubermorgen.com together with hans_extrem founding of ubermorgen.net together with hans_extrem and erica dubach project work for R.O.S.A. internet escorts, zurich management (vice president) of ogilvy interactive, vienna founding of etxtreme.ru together with hans_extrem 1998 ars electronica, faces project & website mba university of economics, vienna continous work on 194.152.164.137 [userunfriendly] / http://toilet.sil.at 1997-1995 founding of 194.152.164.137 [userunfriendly] together with andrea mayr diverse web.projects 1994-1992 studies at the academy of fine arts, vienna studies at the university of economics, vienna 1991-1980 school in salzburg/at highschool in ny/usa 30.01. 1973 born in linz, austria ######start bio hans_extrem/etoy.HANS/luzius bernhard######## 2000 founder and CEO of ubermorgen.com, vienna/austria http://www.ubermorgen.com ubermorgen.org / WWWiderstand; resistance-net http://www.ubermorgen.org 1999 founder of ubermorgen.net [network of digital uberbrains] http://www.ubermorgen.net founder etxtreme.ru [read fast! think later!] http://www.etxtreme.ru magister artium [M.F.A.], university of applied arts [uaa], vienna prof. peter weibel 1994-1999 etoy http://www.etoy.com :: etoy.TIMEZONE :: etoy.TANK-17 :: etoy.SHARES :: protected by etoy :: the digital hijack :: etoy.TANKSYSTEM :: etoy.PROMOTION :: etoy.VISUALS :: founder of etoy ; radical computer-animation raves/events/movies text digital [wordwar, tanz du sau] techno-music producer/lyrics [etoy.SOUND] 1995-96 acting experimental and feature films in europe 1974-1991 childhood and work in switzerland 1971 born in yale, ct >Thanks for the reply. If it is okay with you I would like to compose a list >of questions and e-mail these to you. Also, if you have a bio of yourself I >would like to receive that. > >Joel B. Rothman >Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. >2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West >Boca Raton, FL 33431 >561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 >reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com >http://www.seidenlaw.com > >NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm >of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be >privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the >use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any >disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message >is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the >sender immediately. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:11 PM >To: Joel B. Rothman >Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >Subject: RE: your article > > > > dear joel, > > thanks for getting back, and btw i was too quick > anwering your mail - i saw later that i was you > who not only wrote the article but also sent me > the notification of the article. > > that just as a note.. > > regarding: > >>Would you be interested in answering some more questions and >>discussing theissues further for an expanded article I would >>like to write? > >absolutely, we are particularily interested in the legal >aspects that voteauction is now being more and more confronted >with (seems to be another parallel to the actual elections ;). > >and as i said, i considered your article well researched and >phrased, so i would gladly answer further questions you might >have. > >sincerely, > >lizvlx > > > >>I only knew about the Chicago injunction at the time I went to press. >Also, >>I could not find your domain where you relocated so I could not put it in >my >>article. I know it now. >> >> >> >>Joel B. Rothman >>Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. >>2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West >>Boca Raton, FL 33431 >>561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 >>reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com >>http://www.seidenlaw.com >> >>NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm >>of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be >>privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the >>use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any >>disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message >>is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the >>sender immediately. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >>Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:15 AM >>To: jrothman@seidenlaw.com >>Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >>Subject: your article >> >> >> >> dear mr rothman, >> >> i enjoyed very much reading your article, i found it >> very well put and researched. >> >> however, there are just a few notes i would like to >> add: >> >> . not only chicago has issued restraining orders and >> injunctions, but also missouri (they are claiming >> consumer rights violations, wrongful promise etc), >> also wisconsin and massachussetts have issued >> comparable legal orders. >> . voteauction is still online, it can be accessed >> via >> http://www.voteauction.at and >> http://voteauction.de and our IP >> http://62.116.31.68 >> >> best, >> lizvlx, [V]ote-auction >>-- >> . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> http://www.vote-auction.com >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> >> bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! >> >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >-- > . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://www.vote-auction.com > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From jrothman@webrise.net Wed Nov 15 12:54:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 87883 invoked by alias); 15 Nov 2000 12:54:01 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 87880 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2000 12:54:01 -0000 Received: from server3.safepages.com (216.127.146.5) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2000 12:54:01 -0000 Received: from webrise (02-099.050.popsite.net [64.24.144.99]) by server3.safepages.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 781A222F55 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:56:29 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Joel Rothman" To: Subject: Vote-auction article Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 71 http://206.245.152.43/cgi-shl/shownews.pl?id=6383 Joel B. Rothman Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. 2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West Boca Raton, FL 33431 561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com http://www.seidenlaw.com NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. From AWechsler@TimesUnion.com Tue Nov 07 20:49:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 98935 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 2000 20:49:04 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 98916 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 20:49:02 -0000 Received: from mail.timesunion.com (HELO mercury.tunet.com) (167.166.22.84) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 20:49:02 -0000 Received: by mercury.tunet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:48:11 -0500 Message-ID: <5BEDEBF991B2D211AD7E00902727B62102164DE6@mercury.tunet.com> From: AWechsler@TimesUnion.com To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: Is there really a Hans? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:48:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C048FC.09F6C6A0" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 72 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C048FC.09F6C6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, there, Alan Wechsler here from the Times Union. Looking to chat on election day with whoever gets this. You can write back or call me (Albany, New York) at 518-454-5469. Thanks. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C048FC.09F6C6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there really a Hans?

Hi, there, Alan Wechsler here from the = Times Union. Looking to chat on election day with whoever gets this. = You can write back or call me (Albany, New York) at 518-454-5469. = Thanks.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C048FC.09F6C6A0-- From aacooper@ap.org Mon Nov 06 18:16:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 78803 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 18:16:04 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 78800 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 18:16:04 -0000 Received: from ctcnot10.ap.org (HELO CTCMail2.ap.org) (165.1.22.58) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 18:16:04 -0000 Received: from ap.org ([165.1.69.131]) by CTCMail2.ap.org (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.4) with ESMTP id 2000110613190886:11756 ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:19:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3A06CB90.1F237AE0@ap.org> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:17:36 -0500 From: aacooper X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: Election Day X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on CTCMail2/TheAP(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 11/06/2000 01:19:09 PM, Serialize by Router on CTCMail2/TheAP(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 11/06/2000 01:19:12 PM, Serialize complete at 11/06/2000 01:19:12 PM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 73 Liz- I was hoping you could explain to me what is going to happen tomorrow (or today) with the people who have signed up to sell/bid for the votes. Is that going to work or what? Mr. Bernhard told me before that you all are mostly working on testing this project and the actual details are not as important as seeing the possible interest, etc. Are the people who signed up actually expected to vote for the bidders' candidates? And will they get paid? And how are you making sure the companies/individuals who paid for the votes actually cough up the cash? Yours, Audrey Cooper The Associated Press aacooper@ap.org 916-488-9555 From jrothman@seidenlaw.com Wed Nov 15 21:51:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 89893 invoked by alias); 15 Nov 2000 21:51:04 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 89890 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2000 21:51:03 -0000 Received: from mail2.businesshost.com (HELO server1.lptc.com) (209.196.56.101) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2000 21:51:03 -0000 Received: from pstcomputers [63.146.220.98] by server1.lptc.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1EE56A01BA; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:36:46 -0500 From: "Joel B. Rothman" To: "'PR [V]ote-auction.com'" Subject: RE: your article Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:56:34 -0500 Message-ID: <002601c04f4e$ebbf4c80$1d00a8c0@pstcomputers> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 Thanks for the reply. If it is okay with you I would like to compose a list of questions and e-mail these to you. Also, if you have a bio of yourself I would like to receive that. Joel B. Rothman Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. 2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West Boca Raton, FL 33431 561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com http://www.seidenlaw.com NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:11 PM To: Joel B. Rothman Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: RE: your article dear joel, thanks for getting back, and btw i was too quick anwering your mail - i saw later that i was you who not only wrote the article but also sent me the notification of the article. that just as a note.. regarding: >Would you be interested in answering some more questions and >discussing theissues further for an expanded article I would >like to write? absolutely, we are particularily interested in the legal aspects that voteauction is now being more and more confronted with (seems to be another parallel to the actual elections ;). and as i said, i considered your article well researched and phrased, so i would gladly answer further questions you might have. sincerely, lizvlx >I only knew about the Chicago injunction at the time I went to press. Also, >I could not find your domain where you relocated so I could not put it in my >article. I know it now. > > > >Joel B. Rothman >Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. >2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West >Boca Raton, FL 33431 >561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 >reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com >http://www.seidenlaw.com > >NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm >of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be >privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the >use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any >disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message >is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the >sender immediately. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] >Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:15 AM >To: jrothman@seidenlaw.com >Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com >Subject: your article > > > > dear mr rothman, > > i enjoyed very much reading your article, i found it > very well put and researched. > > however, there are just a few notes i would like to > add: > > . not only chicago has issued restraining orders and > injunctions, but also missouri (they are claiming > consumer rights violations, wrongful promise etc), > also wisconsin and massachussetts have issued > comparable legal orders. > . voteauction is still online, it can be accessed > via > http://www.voteauction.at and > http://voteauction.de and our IP > http://62.116.31.68 > > best, > lizvlx, [V]ote-auction >-- > . . 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From jrothman@seidenlaw.com Wed Nov 15 14:58:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 88396 invoked by alias); 15 Nov 2000 14:58:57 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 88393 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2000 14:58:57 -0000 Received: from mail2.businesshost.com (HELO server1.lptc.com) (209.196.56.101) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2000 14:58:57 -0000 Received: from pstcomputers [63.146.220.98] by server1.lptc.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1613160112; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:44:49 -0500 From: "Joel B. Rothman" To: "'PR [V]ote-auction.com'" Subject: RE: your article Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:04:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c04f15$56b53e80$1d00a8c0@pstcomputers> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 75 I only knew about the Chicago injunction at the time I went to press. Also, I could not find your domain where you relocated so I could not put it in my article. I know it now. Would you be interested in answering some more questions and discussing the issues further for an expanded article I would like to write? Joel B. Rothman Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. 2300 Glades Road, Suite 340 West Boca Raton, FL 33431 561.416.0170/fax 561.416.0171 reply to jrothman@seidenlaw.com http://www.seidenlaw.com NOTICE: This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Seiden, Alder, Rothman, Petosa & Matthewman, P.A. that may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:15 AM To: jrothman@seidenlaw.com Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: your article dear mr rothman, i enjoyed very much reading your article, i found it very well put and researched. however, there are just a few notes i would like to add: . not only chicago has issued restraining orders and injunctions, but also missouri (they are claiming consumer rights violations, wrongful promise etc), also wisconsin and massachussetts have issued comparable legal orders. . voteauction is still online, it can be accessed via http://www.voteauction.at and http://voteauction.de and our IP http://62.116.31.68 best, lizvlx, [V]ote-auction -- . . 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From philcainotr@yahoo.co.uk Tue Jan 30 12:21:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 38190 invoked by alias); 30 Jan 2001 12:21:36 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 38187 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2001 12:21:35 -0000 Received: from web11407.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.131.237) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2001 12:21:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20010130122218.37050.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.173.220.6] by web11407.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:22:18 GMT Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:22:18 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?phil=20cain?= Subject: Interview To: pr@[62.116.31.68] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 76 Dear Sir/Madam I am researching a feature on e-campaigning in the context of the upcoming UK elections. I would like to interview one of those behind [v]ote-auction.com to learn a little more about its plans concerning this election. You can contact me either at this address or at my work address, phil@headstar.com, or on my mobile at +44 797 418 9270. Best regards Phil Cain editor/publisher headstar.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From roconnor@bellatlantic.net Mon Nov 06 14:24:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 75443 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 14:24:09 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 75440 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 14:24:09 -0000 Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 14:24:09 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-138-88-34-143.bellatlantic.net [138.88.34.143]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27511 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:25:07 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:25:12 -0500 Subject: Story query From: "Rory J. O'Connor" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 77 Good day, I write for a U.S. internet newsweekly and we are very interested in what happened to you in the past week. We are especially interested in knowing who (person, not institution) made the decision to pull down your site. What sort of contract did you have with your domain name registrar? Was there any language that allowed them to take you down for violating "terms of service" or the like? Have you received any communication from your registrar or from InterNIC/ICANN pertaining to the incident? Please return my e-mail, or you can call me Monday at +1.301.891.1518 in Maryland, USA, or Tuesday at the number listed below in Washington, DC. -- Rory J. O'Connor Investigative Reporter Inter@ctive Week 1090 Vermont Ave., N.W. Suite 829 Washington, DC 20005 rory_oconnor@ziffdavis.com 202.408.6888 (voice) 202.494.9333 (mobile) 202.326.5248 (fax) www.interactiveweek.com From thudson@webfn.com Wed Nov 01 16:15:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 34118 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2000 16:15:37 -0000 Delivered-To: PR@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 34115 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2000 16:15:37 -0000 Received: from mail.wciu.com (HELO wciuserv02.mainserv) (209.219.109.2) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 1 Nov 2000 16:15:37 -0000 Received: by WCIUSERV02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:22:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tom Hudson To: "'PR [V]ote-auction.com'" Subject: RE: interview Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:22:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 78 Thanks for the phone conversation. We'll call tomorrow, Thursday, November 2 at 1545 your time. We'll call the Berlin phone # a few minutes before the live conversation. Cheers, - Hudson -----Original Message----- From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@vote-auction.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:49 AM To: Tom Hudson Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: Re: interview dear tom, thanks for your email. we - either hans or lizvlx - would gladly join you for an interview. you can reach us in/at berlin 011-49-175-2066954 vienna 011-43-676-9300061 best lizvlx ceo ubermorgen.com >Hans: >I'd like to talk to you about the possibility of doing an interview on an >Internet radio show I produce for E*Trade. >Let me explain that WebFN is a broadband financial news website at >www.webfn.com. WebFN produces a daily one hour Internet audio show for >E*Trade that airs 0900a ET - 1000a ET Monday through Friday. >Please drop me an email or call me before 2100 your time and we can talk. >Cheers, > >Tom Hudson >WebFN >312/660-8340 -- . . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From thudson@webfn.com Wed Nov 01 15:23:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 33760 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2000 15:23:52 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@vote-auction.com Received: (qmail 33757 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2000 15:23:51 -0000 Received: from mail.wciu.com (HELO wciuserv02.mainserv) (209.219.109.2) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 1 Nov 2000 15:23:51 -0000 Received: by WCIUSERV02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:30:51 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tom Hudson To: "'pr@vote-auction.com'" Subject: interview Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:30:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 79 Hans: I'd like to talk to you about the possibility of doing an interview on an Internet radio show I produce for E*Trade. Let me explain that WebFN is a broadband financial news website at www.webfn.com. WebFN produces a daily one hour Internet audio show for E*Trade that airs 0900a ET - 1000a ET Monday through Friday. Please drop me an email or call me before 2100 your time and we can talk. Cheers, Tom Hudson WebFN 312/660-8340 From achim@de.internet.com Thu Nov 02 07:40:36 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 39906 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 07:40:36 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@www.etxtreme.ru Received: (qmail 39901 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 07:40:34 -0000 Received: from mail.gatrixx.de (HELO bln-fw.gatrixx.de) (195.127.198.135) by www.etxtreme.ru with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 07:40:34 -0000 Received: from mail.gatrixx.de by bln-fw.gatrixx.de via smtpd (for [62.116.31.68]) with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 07:40:59 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <97754A2768C7D311BD11009027DCC993A99353@mail.gatrixx.de> From: Achim Sawall To: "'[V]ote-auction PR'" Subject: AW: Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN [PRESS RELE ASE] Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:40:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 80 k=F6nnten sie diesen Text auch auf Deutsch liefern? -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: [V]ote-auction PR [mailto:pr@[62.116.31.68]] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. November 2000 08:39 An: pr@[62.116.31.68] Betreff: Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN [PRESS RELEASE] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -------------------------------------------------------- Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN -------------------------------------------------------- Vienna/Berlin, November 2nd, 2000, 7 am CET Below you find the latest press release by [V]ote-auction: http://62.116.31.68 http://www.voteauction.at http://www.voteauction.de [formerly Vote-auction.com and Voteauction.com]. You can also find this press release at http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm For any further information feel free to contact pr@[62.116.31.68] or in urgent cases call our ubermorgen.com hotlines: berlin +49-175-2066954 vienna +43 676 9300061 ------------------------------------------------------- [V] Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN [V]ote-auction, the only platform worldwide allowing end-consumers to take part in the U.S. election industry [formerly called "soft money"], falls again victim to a repressive campaign against free speech. Yesterday, 1st of November 2000, the domain Vote-auction.com got illegally shut down by InterNIC. InterNIC is the central institution located in the U.S. where all domain name service records for the .com/.net/.org are stored. We, and neither our providers have received any notification =20 about this action at all, nor have we been informed of any=20 legal documents which would allow for such a step. Up to this moment, InterNIC is declining comment on the issue. [V] Why was the domain shut down in this way? Our first domain, voteauction.com, was registered with a dns-registry located in the U.S. Our "late" domain, vote-auction.com, however, was registered via a company=20 located in Germany, i.e. outside of U.S. jurisdiction. This is why, appearantly, some-one in the U.S., probably parties from the Chicago law suit where vote-auction.com is named as a defendant, decided to just forget about legal proceedings, and went directly to InterNIC, ignoring inter- national law. [V] What will happen to [V]ote-auction now? Our lawyers are currently investigating, as you might =20 imagine. Furthermore, we have discussed the issue with newly-elect ICANN board director Andy Mueller-Maguhn, who commented the issue with "I guess, we will have to do something about this". A colleague of his called it "it is absolutely clear that this is plain outrageous". On a more practical level, we are reachable via our IP - our new url is: http://62.116.31.68 Using the IP address will finally give us full protection against any further actions against our site, as IP addresses are not dependant on domain name services. Luckily, this DNS-SHUTDOWN was not intelligentely timed. Due to our "opponents'" lazy tactics, Vote-auction.com will now definitely be online and reachable to the public on Election Day via several domains and under the IP-Address controlled by a european institution: ripe.net. On a funny note, one could say that now they either have to shut down the whole Internet or arrest the whole US- population, OR, which is more likely, our site will stay functional and online. [V] [V]ote-auction is BACK UNDER Thanks to the incredible work of our dear provider SILVER SERVER [www.sil.at], we were able to get back online fast and are now reachable at: http://62.116.31.68 This is the safest address currently available. Vote-auction can also be reached under:=20 http://voteauction.enemy.org Vote-auction has issued a free speech support campaign in order to gather hundreds of vote-auction and voteauction domains or install sub-domains all pointing to: http://62.116.31.68 From November, 2nd, the following domains shall be active: http://www.voteauction.at [Austrian domain] http://www.voteauction.de [Germany, thx to think-factory.de] http://www.voteauction.cu [Cuban domain] http://www.voteauction.ru [Russian domain] http://www.vote-auction.net http://www.vote-auction.org [V] Vote-auction.com ADDS NEW FEATURES Now to some really good news! Vote-auction, still the "Leader of the Election Industry", and the first mover in this field, has added various new features: [] Updated figures, automated processes Our new software has allowed us to verify the numbers which have been in the system so far. We have cleared out all double and fake entries and can now provide you with live, real-time rendered data: http://62.116.31.68/check.php3 *current no. of sellers: 56.789 [] International polls In order to showcase the US-presidential election even better, Vote-auction has released several polls for national and international audiences. Vote-auction intends to involve a worldwide audience by polling their preferences on "Gore-Bush-Nader", a community poll will raise the Question whether Vote-auction.com should be considered "legal or Illegal", and the most important question of all - "Would you rather go voting if you received money for it?". Find the polls at: http://62.116.31.68/index00.htm [] 1-CLICK-BIDDING function In order to use our bidding section we have implemented a 1-click-bidding function with user-verification. This will help ensuring the authenticity of the bidders and will secure the bidders' offer. Find the bid-check section: http://62.116.31.68/check.php3 [] ALL NEW MESSAGE-BOARD, heavily crowded Created to stimulate public reaction from the U.S., but also the international audiences, you will now find our message board crowded and full with interesting and controversial discussions: http://62.116.31.68/forum/ [] Extended PRESS-ARCHIVE, over 200 internat. news-segments Due to the massive response in the media, we have updated our press-section providing you with broad information on how Vote-auction is featured and discussed in the press. Well over 200 e-press-clippings have been discovered by our PR-department: http://62.116.31.68/news.htm [V] Final note We want to end this press release with a quote from chief counsel to the California secretary of state, Bill Jones, who seems to have a somewhat "personal" view on free speech: "whether this is a parody [...] that this man is running, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever in California. [...] because you are talking about the corruption of the voting process." Source: CNN, "Burden of Proof", Oct 24 2000 http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram Appearantely, there are other individuals and/or authorities, who share his viewpoint. We have just received notice of further lawsuits filed in the states of Wisconsin and Missouri by their respective Attorney Generals. For the Vote-auction team: lizvlx [V]ote-auction PR PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction via web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: pr@[62.116.31.68] http://62.116.31.68 http://www.voteauction.at We will not be able to receive messages sent to any of the old addresses. Thank you. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] [] [] [] [V]ote-auction [] [] [] [] pr@[62.116.31.68] [] [] [] [] The Election Industry Leader - Bringing [] [] Capitalism & Democracy closer together [] [] [] [] _brought to you by ubermorgen.com [] [] [] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] From fx@tivision.at Thu Nov 02 12:07:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 42502 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 12:07:42 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 42499 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 12:07:42 -0000 Received: from mail.tivision.at (HELO tivision.at) (62.116.6.179) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 12:07:42 -0000 Received: from WorldClient by tivision.at with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.0.R) for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:07:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:07:10 +0100 From: "Felix Schobert" To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: studiosession MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pr@[62.116.31.68] X-Return-Path: fx@tivision.at X-MDRcpt-To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Reply-To: fx@tivision.at Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 81 hi ! ich mach bei tiv die it sendung, und wollte dich/euch (?!) fragen ob sich am montag eine sudiosession ausgeht ? es wäre über das thema www.vote-auction.com, als beispiel, und dann allgemein was geht ab bezüglich verantwortung - content - provider - iccan... ich freu mich, wenn es irgendwie möglich wäre am montag zwischen 18.00 - 21.00 als sudiogespräch darüber mal zu reden ?bitte um feedback vielen dank und grüsse felix schobert digitally transmitted by TIV_TeleVisionCompany mailservices, http://www.tiv.at ::.. From critter@21stcentury.net Thu Nov 02 13:10:28 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 42831 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 13:10:27 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 42828 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 13:10:27 -0000 Received: from mail1.21stcentury.net (216.80.19.58) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 13:10:27 -0000 Received: from 21stcentury.net ([24.148.4.228]) by mail1.21stcentury.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA6F7C for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:01:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3A0167D3.8F9EF54A@21stcentury.net> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 07:10:44 -0600 From: "Lawrence Santoro" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr@[62.116.31.68] Subject: article is still online Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 82 The Chicago Sun-Times article "Web vote site all about buzz" can be accessed at : http://sduros.com/votes.html From edward@makingcomputerssimple.com Thu Nov 02 16:10:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43594 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2000 16:10:46 -0000 Delivered-To: pr@mail.ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 43591 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 16:10:45 -0000 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 16:10:45 -0000 Received: from ssmlabsever (user-38ld43q.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.144.122]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08322 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:11:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011021611.LAA08322@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> From: Edward Chapman To: X-Mailer: Poco 2.1 (733) - Registered Version Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:13:34 -0500 X-URL: http://www.pocomail.com/ Subject: An interview Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 83 My name is Edward Chapman and I host a= computer radio show in Atlanta GA.  I have contacted you all before for an= interview.  I was wondering if we could do a short 3 minute interview for= our show right before election= day.  If this is possible than could you e-mail= me or call me at= 404-256-9398.

Thanks
Edward Chapman
-- Edward Chapman, edward@makingcomputerssimple.com on= 11/02/2000
From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Wed Feb 21 19:48:21 2001 +0100 Return-Path: Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 12557 invoked by uid 33); 17 Oct 2000 08:53:36 -0000 Date: 17 Oct 2000 08:53:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20001017085336.12556.qmail@www.etxtreme.ru> From: feedback@ubermorgen.com Reply-To: patrick.hurst@ananova.com To: liz@ubermorgen.com Subject: www.voteauction.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 84 EMAIL.................... patrick.hurst@ananova.com NAME..................... Patrick Hurst NACHRICHT................ FAO Mr Hans Bernhard Please contact Pat Hurst as quickly as possible re news stories on voteauction.com. I work for Ananova.com - formerly the UK Press Association New Media section. I am very keen to talk to you about voteauction and the UK. Please contact me urgently on 00 44 113 3674564 or 07970 506640 (m). Many Thanks. Pat Hurst. From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Thu Jun 28 19:10:15 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 42733 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 12:57:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NTVNWC4.n-tv.de) (195.126.13.2) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 12:57:27 -0000 Received: from ntv-dm-Message_Server by NTVNWC4.n-tv.de with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:57:12 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:57:05 +0100 From: "Tatjana Brode" To: Subject: >>Vote-auction / n-tv Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 85 hallo liz, danke fuer die presseerklaerung. ich habe einen artikel geschrieben, du findest ihn unter n-tv.de in der rubrik computer. ich wuerde mich freuen, wenn du zeit hast, ihn mal zu ueberfliegen. ausserdem: ich wueder gern ein interview mit dir reinbringen. fragen waeren zum beispiel: > ubermorgen.com ist ja fuer provokante aktionen=20 bekannt. was waren ihre intentionen speziell=20 fuer die website vote-auction.com? > wie ist die resonanz auf diese website? (interessen der wahlberechtigten,= aber auch presse etc) > in den usa wurden ja rechtliche schritte gegen=20 sie eingeleitet. wie gehen sie damit um? > die juengste schliessung der website ist ja umstritten... was meinst du?=20 bis spaeter --tatjana From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Thu Jun 28 19:21:10 2001 +0200 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailliz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 73045 invoked by uid 4004); 6 Nov 2000 09:57:13 -0000 Delivered-To: liz@ubermorgen.com Received: (qmail 73042 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2000 09:57:13 -0000 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (195.20.224.149) by mail.ubermorgen.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 09:57:13 -0000 Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13sj2g-0001tw-00 for liz@ubermorgen.com; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:58:18 +0100 Received: from p3e9eb1ea.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.158.177.234] helo=icannchannel.de) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13sj2Q-0008DX-00 for liz@ubermorgen.com; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:58:02 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:56:21 +0100 From: Alexander Svensson To: liz@ubermorgen.com Subject: FAZ-Schnipsel X-Mailer: Alexander Svensson's registered AK-Mail 3.1 publicbeta2a [ger] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 86 Hallo Liz! FAZ, 6.11., S. 10 -- ein Artikel von Claus Leggewie und Christoph Bieber: [...] Eine Vorahnung davon durchzuckte die politische Netzwelt bereits bei der Episode um die Website "vote-auction.com": Ein =F6sterreichischer Betreiber hatte auf dieser Plattform nach Bundesstaaten vorsortierte Stimmenpakete zum Verkauf angeboten -- und angeblich waren stattliche Gebote eingegangen (260 000 Dollar f=FCr etwa 21 000 Stimmen). Doch der zu offensichtlich an den herk=F6mmlichen Marktregeln ausgerichtete Tausch "Stimme gegen Geld" geriet zu Recht ins Kreuzfeuer der Kritik; auf Druck=20 amerikanischer Gerichte wurde der Betrieb eingestellt. [...] und dann geht's noch eine Weile weiter zum Vote-Swapping. Alles Gute, /// Alexander From voteauction@ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com Mon Mar 11 11:31:15 2002 +0100 Received: from n32.groups.yahoo.com (n32.groups.yahoo.com [216.115.96.82]) by ubermorgen03.ubermorgen.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g1O4c3J88374 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 05:38:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sentto-2384993-14-1014525527-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2384993-14-1014525527-liz=ubermorgen.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [216.115.97.191] by n32.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2002 04:38:47 -0000 X-Sender: anitraweb@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 24 Feb 2002 04:38:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 44014 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2002 04:38:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2002 04:38:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.77) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2002 04:38:47 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.182] by n27.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2002 04:38:46 -0000 To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "anitraweb" X-Originating-IP: 207.202.220.47 X-Yahoo-Profile: anitraweb MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com; contact vote-auction-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 04:38:45 -0000 Subject: [vote-auction] A Belated BRAVO Reply-To: vote-auction@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 87 A great satire, well done. I wish I'd discovered you folks before 11/7/200, but I can enjoy you in retrospect. If any of the originators are still reading the list, I'd love to hear how the court cases are going. If there is any current news, I'd like to include it in the April 1 edition of Real Change. See http://www.realchangenews.org/ for an idea of what we cover. Write On! Anitra My meta-site: http://speakeasy.org/~anitra/ Over 30 topics on 12 servers, and growing. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sponsored by VeriSign - The Value of Trust When building an e-commerce site, you want to start with a secure foundation. Learn how with VeriSign's FREE Guide. http://us.click.yahoo.com/oCuuSA/XdiDAA/yigFAA/OIFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: vote-auction-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/