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From: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" <pr@vote-auction.com> Subject: Re: your site


dear inge,

thanks for your enquiry.

read our answes below,
best
lizvlx

First, I would like to know what you guys get out of this. 

we do this because we are interested in politics and business. 

How are you being paid.

we are running a company of our own, and we are able to finance ourselves.

Obviously, you don't believe that people should do "the right thing just because". You believe that everybody should get paid. So, how about it?

we believe that end-users should have the right to participate in the election industry the same way the big players (like media agencies and lobbyist) can participate.

Second, I think that you are engaged in a business that is morally reprehensible. You certainly are not doing anything to further the cause of democracy. while it is true that elections any more are about money and wealth, do you really think you improve the process by reinforcing the situation?

we think that facing, or dealing with the reality of the world as it is, is the best way to make it possible for change to happen.

And if you're not interested in improving the process, all you do is exacerbate an existing moral corruption and somehow turn it into a business for you.

Finally, I hope they shut you down everywhere. 

i guess you do not want an answer to that. 


Inge Meinzer

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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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Subject: [betacity] for y/eyes! press:: vote-auction.com 


dearZ

http://www.vote-auction.com


CNN dedicated a show for vote-auction, live on the wire, vote-auction.com etoy.HANS over the mobile wire:: enjoy! http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram [a CNN special national/internat. report coming soon!] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

+ CHECK OUT the press.section:

http://www.vote-auction.com/news.htm

CNN, wirednews, WIRED, USA Today, ABC, NBC, FOX, Slate, Washington Post, Industry Standard, AP, CNET, Telepolis, Spiegel Online, Slashdot, ...


various serious legal cases/ prosecutions :: 

:: board of elections chicago
:: california secretary of state
:: board of election nebraska
:: texas attorney general
:: tech crime unit arizona,

...heavy duty stuff! see some docs under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/legal/index.htm 

the domain voteauction.com has been deactivated on orders of some local judge in chicago/illinois; sooo much fun and pressure there!
read more in our attached press.release or under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm


our holding-company is specialized on high-risk ventures! 

::.. we invest into / they invest into ..:: 

ubermorgen.com, etoy.com, SILVER SERVER, rtmark.com, skim.com, uptoart.com, etxtreme.org, voortekk.com, rosa.com, dplanet.org, msn.de, micromusic.net, and many more.. 


for ubermorgen.com and the etoy.HOLDING:: 

:: lizvlx [CEO ubermorgen.com]

:: etoy.HANS /net_CALLBOY [CEO vote-auction.com] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "if you don't get help from us, please get help somewhere!" http://www.ubermorgen.com :: shock marketing :: software dev. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 




FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

-------------------------------------------------------- 

Vote-auction.com back online

-------------------------------------------------------- 

Berlin, October 22, 2000

Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant information on the latest developments of the site and the people and users behind it.

You can also find this press release at
http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm

For any further information feel free to contact pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. 

------------------------------------------------------- 


[V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com 

The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com has regained access to the web via its new domain 

http://www.vote-auction.com

During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has been passed concerning the website which explores the high-risk consumer markets of the American election industry.

The site's original domain had been ordered shut down by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost everybody related to the existence of the website, the owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy paper for version 2.0 of the project.


[V] Sue 'em 'til they drop...

The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every effort to get the site out of service during the last 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest to sue:

. domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where 
the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. 

. silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as 
well as of one of the top technical staff are also named defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is vote-auction.com's internet access provider. 


[V] (Il)legal Battle?

It remains open for discussion how it should be possible that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider could ever be responsible for contents accessible via domains they are providing routing services for. Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total violation of standards set by ICANN.

We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. 

Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- bank being involved in the legal case, the provider "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by domainbank, as they had at that time already made a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- bank's executives.

Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide you with a clear statement from their president: 

"SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. 
SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com in russia and japan."


[V] Users give full support - despite potential respression 

Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their support in various emails. This is another reason why we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on protecting any data which has been submitted to us by trusting users.

Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to user rights. The court has ordered all data of users registered with the site to be disclosed to the authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually for so-called "voter fraud".


[V] Where to go from here

Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services to the vital elections markets. We will keep on focusing on the American elections until mid-November this year. In the meantime we will also finish our redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready for upcoming elections worldwide.


For the Vote-auction.com team:

lizvlx
[V]ote-auction.com


PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via 
web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: 

pr@vote-auction.com
http://www.vote-auction.com

We will not be able to receive messages sent to the old address. Thank you.


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dearZ

http://www.vote-auction.com


CNN dedicated a show for vote-auction, live on the wire, vote-auction.com etoy.HANS over the mobile wire:: enjoy! http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram [a CNN special national/internat. report coming soon!] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

+ CHECK OUT the press.section:

http://www.vote-auction.com/news.htm

CNN, wirednews, WIRED, USA Today, ABC, NBC, FOX, Slate, Washington Post, Industry Standard, AP, CNET, Telepolis, Spiegel Online, Slashdot, ...


various serious legal cases/ prosecutions :: 

:: board of elections chicago
:: california secretary of state
:: board of election nebraska
:: texas attorney general
:: tech crime unit arizona,

...heavy duty stuff! see some docs under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/legal/index.htm 

the domain voteauction.com has been deactivated on orders of some local judge in chicago/illinois; sooo much fun and pressure there!
read more in our attached press.release or under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm


our holding-company is specialized on high-risk ventures! 

::.. we invest into / they invest into ..:: 

ubermorgen.com, etoy.com, SILVER SERVER, rtmark.com, skim.com, uptoart.com, etxtreme.org, voortekk.com, rosa.com, dplanet.org, msn.de, micromusic.net, and many more.. 


for ubermorgen.com and the etoy.HOLDING:: 

:: lizvlx [CEO ubermorgen.com]

:: etoy.HANS /net_CALLBOY [CEO vote-auction.com] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "if you don't get help from us, please get help somewhere!" http://www.ubermorgen.com :: shock marketing :: software dev. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 




FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

-------------------------------------------------------- 

Vote-auction.com back online

-------------------------------------------------------- 

Berlin, October 22, 2000

Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant information on the latest developments of the site and the people and users behind it.

You can also find this press release at
http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm

For any further information feel free to contact pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. 

------------------------------------------------------- 


[V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com 

The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com has regained access to the web via its new domain 

http://www.vote-auction.com

During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has been passed concerning the website which explores the high-risk consumer markets of the American election industry.

The site's original domain had been ordered shut down by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost everybody related to the existence of the website, the owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy paper for version 2.0 of the project.


[V] Sue 'em 'til they drop...

The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every effort to get the site out of service during the last 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest to sue:

. domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where 
the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. 

. silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as 
well as of one of the top technical staff are also named defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is vote-auction.com's internet access provider. 


[V] (Il)legal Battle?

It remains open for discussion how it should be possible that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider could ever be responsible for contents accessible via domains they are providing routing services for. Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total violation of standards set by ICANN.

We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. 

Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- bank being involved in the legal case, the provider "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by domainbank, as they had at that time already made a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- bank's executives.

Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide you with a clear statement from their president: 

"SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. 
SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com in russia and japan."


[V] Users give full support - despite potential respression 

Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their support in various emails. This is another reason why we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on protecting any data which has been submitted to us by trusting users.

Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to user rights. The court has ordered all data of users registered with the site to be disclosed to the authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually for so-called "voter fraud".


[V] Where to go from here

Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services to the vital elections markets. We will keep on focusing on the American elections until mid-November this year. In the meantime we will also finish our redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready for upcoming elections worldwide.


For the Vote-auction.com team:

lizvlx
[V]ote-auction.com


PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via 
web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: 

pr@vote-auction.com
http://www.vote-auction.com

We will not be able to receive messages sent to the old address. Thank you.


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[] Capitalism & Democracy closer together	[]
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To: Jason Beever <Jason.Beever@ifcosystems.com> From: "[V]ote-auction.com PR" <pr@vote-auction.com> Subject: Re: Third Parties

thanks for the links.
we are currently in the process of
updating the site and will include
the links in the update.
best
lizvlx

I noticed that on your 'Links' page, you do not have any URLs to third party websites. I believe it is more likely that third-party supporters would take advantage of your site than the traditional Democratic/Republican supporters, as they are consistently looking for a 'backdoor' through which to make an in-road and get on the map. Consider marketing to the supporters of those parties, such as Libertarian, Green Party, Natural Law Party, Interent Party.
www.lp.org
www.harrybrowne.org
www.self-gov.org

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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:18:53 -0500
From: "Bendito Palavra" <ps119@bigred.net> To: ps119@bigred.net
Importance: Normal
Subject: Important

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. 

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 


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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:26:51 -0700
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What is Germanies interest in our political elections? 

----- Original Message -----
From: [V]ote-auction.com PR <pr@vote-auction.com> To: Michael C Schneider <mcschneider@wsu.edu> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Think you are smart


>
>dear michael,
>
>thank you for sharing your opinion with us. 
>
>it is the so many differnet opinions
>which make our world this interesting
>place!
>
>concerning your advice for goint to russia: as we are currently not even in the u.s., but in east-berlin - i guess from your
>standpoint we are in russia anyhow.
>
>best
>lizvlx
>
>>Well this is illegal to buy and sell votes, not only is it illegal but its immorral, unethical, unamerican, and just flat out wrong. Its another sorry attempt by the liberals to cheat this country out of its American Heritage. Why don't you people go to Russia I'm sure you'd like their system better. You worthless peices of SHIT 
>
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>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>
>bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 
>
>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>
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Subject: Re: for y/eyes! press:: vote-auction.com From: Isabel Kirsch <rebel@rosa.com>
To: net_CALLBOY <play@ubermorgen.com>

on 10/25/00 7:19 PM, net_CALLBOY at play@ubermorgen.com wrote: 

>
>dearZ
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>http://www.vote-auction.com
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>CNN dedicated a show for vote-auction, live on the wire, vote-auction.com etoy.HANS over the mobile wire:: enjoy! http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram [a CNN special national/internat. report coming soon!] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>+ CHECK OUT the press.section:
>
>http://www.vote-auction.com/news.htm
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>CNN, wirednews, WIRED, USA Today, ABC, NBC, FOX, Slate, Washington Post, Industry Standard, AP, CNET, Telepolis, Spiegel Online, Slashdot, ...
>
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>various serious legal cases/ prosecutions :: 
>
>:: board of elections chicago
>:: california secretary of state
>:: board of election nebraska
>:: texas attorney general
>:: tech crime unit arizona,
>
>...heavy duty stuff! see some docs under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/legal/index.htm 
>
>the domain voteauction.com has been deactivated on orders of some local judge in chicago/illinois; sooo much fun and pressure there!
>read more in our attached press.release or under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm
>
>
>our holding-company is specialized on high-risk ventures! 
>
>::.. we invest into / they invest into ..:: 
>
>ubermorgen.com, etoy.com, SILVER SERVER, rtmark.com, skim.com, uptoart.com, etxtreme.org, voortekk.com, rosa.com, dplanet.org, msn.de, micromusic.net, and many more.. 
>
>
>for ubermorgen.com and the etoy.HOLDING:: 
>
>:: lizvlx [CEO ubermorgen.com]
>
>:: etoy.HANS /net_CALLBOY [CEO vote-auction.com] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "if you don't get help from us, please get help somewhere!" http://www.ubermorgen.com :: shock marketing :: software dev. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
>-------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>Vote-auction.com back online
>
>-------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>Berlin, October 22, 2000
>
>Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant information on the latest developments of the site and the people and users behind it.
>
>You can also find this press release at http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm
>
>For any further information feel free to contact pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. 
>
>------------------------------------------------------- 
>
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>[V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com 
>
>The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com has regained access to the web via its new domain 
>
>http://www.vote-auction.com
>
>During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has been passed concerning the website which explores the high-risk consumer markets of the American election industry.
>
>The site's original domain had been ordered shut down by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost everybody related to the existence of the website, the owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy paper for version 2.0 of the project.
>
>
>[V] Sue 'em 'til they drop...
>
>The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every effort to get the site out of service during the last 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest to sue:
>
>. domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. 
>
>. silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as well as of one of the top technical staff are also named defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is vote-auction.com's internet access provider. 
>
>
>[V] (Il)legal Battle?
>
>It remains open for discussion how it should be possible that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider could ever be responsible for contents accessible via domains they are providing routing services for. Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total violation of standards set by ICANN.
>
>We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. 
>
>Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- bank being involved in the legal case, the provider "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by domainbank, as they had at that time already made a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- bank's executives.
>
>Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide you with a clear statement from their president: 
>
>"SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com in russia and japan."
>
>
>[V] Users give full support - despite potential respression 
>
>Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their support in various emails. This is another reason why we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on protecting any data which has been submitted to us by trusting users.
>
>Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to user rights. The court has ordered all data of users registered with the site to be disclosed to the authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually for so-called "voter fraud".
>
>
>[V] Where to go from here
>
>Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services to the vital elections markets. We will keep on focusing on the American elections until mid-November this year. In the meantime we will also finish our redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready for upcoming elections worldwide.
>
>
>For the Vote-auction.com team:
>
>lizvlx
>[V]ote-auction.com
>
>
>PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: 
>
>pr@vote-auction.com
>http://www.vote-auction.com
>
>We will not be able to receive messages sent to the old address. Thank you.
>
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very funny. especially bill from cali is such a jerk. rock on
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From: "bernd kilga" <contact@buk.phalanx.cc> To: "net_CALLBOY" <play@ubermorgen.com>
Subject: RE: for y/eyes! press:: vote-auction.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:33:22 +0200
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hi hanz,

please be careful.
and good luck!!!


anyway, please inform us about any actions/press releases you are planning at 'another tuesday' event in order to prevent some fuckups (we need to know in
order to behave correctly).


best wishes...



regards,
bernd kilga

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 26.10.00 01:19
Subject: [betacity] for y/eyes! press:: vote-auction.com 


dearZ

http://www.vote-auction.com


CNN dedicated a show for vote-auction, live on the wire, vote-auction.com etoy.HANS over the mobile wire:: enjoy! http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram [a CNN special national/internat. report coming soon!] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

+ CHECK OUT the press.section:

http://www.vote-auction.com/news.htm

CNN, wirednews, WIRED, USA Today, ABC, NBC, FOX, Slate, Washington Post, Industry Standard, AP, CNET, Telepolis, Spiegel Online, Slashdot, ...


various serious legal cases/ prosecutions :: 

:: board of elections chicago
:: california secretary of state
:: board of election nebraska
:: texas attorney general
:: tech crime unit arizona,

...heavy duty stuff! see some docs under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/legal/index.htm 

the domain voteauction.com has been deactivated on orders of some local judge in chicago/illinois; sooo much fun and pressure there!
read more in our attached press.release or under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm


our holding-company is specialized on high-risk ventures! 

::.. we invest into / they invest into ..:: 

ubermorgen.com, etoy.com, SILVER SERVER, rtmark.com, skim.com, uptoart.com, etxtreme.org, voortekk.com, rosa.com, dplanet.org, msn.de, micromusic.net, and many more.. 


for ubermorgen.com and the etoy.HOLDING:: 

:: lizvlx [CEO ubermorgen.com]

:: etoy.HANS /net_CALLBOY [CEO vote-auction.com] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "if you don't get help from us, please get help somewhere!" http://www.ubermorgen.com :: shock marketing :: software dev. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 




FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

-------------------------------------------------------- 

Vote-auction.com back online

-------------------------------------------------------- 

Berlin, October 22, 2000

Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant information on the latest developments of the site and the people and users behind it.

You can also find this press release at
http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm

For any further information feel free to contact pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. 

------------------------------------------------------- 


[V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com 

The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com has regained access to the web via its new domain 

http://www.vote-auction.com

During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has been passed concerning the website which explores the high-risk consumer markets of the American election industry.

The site's original domain had been ordered shut down by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost everybody related to the existence of the website, the owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy paper for version 2.0 of the project.


[V] Sue 'em 'til they drop...

The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every effort to get the site out of service during the last 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest to sue:

. domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where 
the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. 

. silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as 
well as of one of the top technical staff are also named defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is vote-auction.com's internet access provider. 


[V] (Il)legal Battle?

It remains open for discussion how it should be possible that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider could ever be responsible for contents accessible via domains they are providing routing services for. Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total violation of standards set by ICANN.

We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. 

Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- bank being involved in the legal case, the provider "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by domainbank, as they had at that time already made a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- bank's executives.

Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide you with a clear statement from their president: 

"SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. 
SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com in russia and japan."


[V] Users give full support - despite potential respression 

Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their support in various emails. This is another reason why we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on protecting any data which has been submitted to us by trusting users.

Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to user rights. The court has ordered all data of users registered with the site to be disclosed to the authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually for so-called "voter fraud".


[V] Where to go from here

Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services to the vital elections markets. We will keep on focusing on the American elections until mid-November this year. In the meantime we will also finish our redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready for upcoming elections worldwide.


For the Vote-auction.com team:

lizvlx
[V]ote-auction.com


PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via 
web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: 

pr@vote-auction.com
http://www.vote-auction.com

We will not be able to receive messages sent to the old address. Thank you.


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[] The Election Idustry Leader - Bringing	[]
[] Capitalism & Democracy closer together	[]
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:31:19
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To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Subject: voteauction

What happened to voteauction.com?Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
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re > Vote-auction falls victim to ILLEGAL DNS-SHUTDOWN [PRESS RELEASE] 

have fun with it at least / or make money / the whole idea is amazing - we should have that site in serbia also :) 

re > ETOY fuss

if you can send me some information about the whole mess so I can put it into the kubrick.org letter - i was meaning to make it sort of like a play with acts - i know you are probably extremely bussy but i fu have some time please send whatever u think is releveant to the whole story - when u left and why, who was the founder of what etc - if not i will just wirte something simple based on infromation from sites and stuff like wired etc 

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hoi,

>hi o
>
>hoffe du gut in vie gelandet,, ich werde ab dienstag abend spaet in wien sein, ich ruf dich mittwoch morgen an/email.. dann machma uns 2 badmington/squash-sessions aus.

o.k MI nachmittag waere top und dann am weekend. uebrigens ein news typ hat mich kontaktet. die wollen auch was bringen ueber vote-auction und seine hintermaenner.
eventuell sollte man den NEWSwixern den mega bullshit reindrucken.

>chicago vote-auction, habe ein statement hin- geschickt, dass ich mich nicht verteidigen kann zur zeit, dass ich um aussetzung des verfahrens bitte, dass ich um aufschub um 30 tage bitte.
>
>wir sind parallel daran lawyers ueber ACLU.org zu organisieren, sobald was greifbar werd ich dich und chris involvieren, damit so jemand uns gegebenenfalls gemeinsam vertreten kann. 
>
>so wie es aussieht besteht fuer die hearings kein bedarf, dass du oder chris euch verteidigt, es muss zuerst der status abgeklaert werden und so formal-juristisches zeugs erledigt werden. 

onx cu o.

>best regards
>hans
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: christophe@mail.fork.de
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:18:28 +0100
To: hans@ubermorgen.com
From: "ntrd." <christophe@fork.de>
Subject: cnn.

hi hans!
hab die sendung auf cnn gesehen - glckwunsch! ich konnte gar nicht glauben wie DOOF die alle sind.. =) schne grsse nach wien!
christophe.
nitrada.com/pixelmassaker.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
From: infozone <infozone@ensba.fr>
To: 'net_CALLBOY ' <hans@ubermorgen.com> Subject: RE: [betacity] for y/eyes! press:: vote-auction.com Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:51:09 +0100

Hallo hans,

freut mich von dir zu hoeren...
ja schein ja wirklich rund zu gehen,
es macht auch Spass das Ganze aus der
Ferne zu beobachten. Bis zum 7.Nov habt
ihr wahrscheinlich noch jede Menge zu
tun um auf der Wellle mit zu schwimmen.


Grus jens

ps. Karin ist grosse Klasse....

http://www.betacity.com





-----Original Message-----
From: net_CALLBOY
To: infozone
Sent: 30.10.00 01:29
Subject: RE: [betacity] for y/eyes! press:: vote-auction.com 

>... das riecht nach einem neuen Konflikt...? ... und HAns wieder mittendrin?
>
>Gruss Jens

hi jens;
wieder mitten im chaos.. zwischen klagen und CNN, zwischen angst und arroganz, ein wunder- bares spiel :: borderline behaviour, the real etoy.FUN!;

karin schickt eh gleich den artikel rein... coole frau, sie war bei uns im office fuer ein interview.. war sehr interessant!

greetz from berlin
hans-e


>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: net_CALLBOY
>To: 7-11@mila.ljudmila.org
>Sent: 26.10.00 01:19
>Subject: [betacity] for y/eyes! press:: vote-auction.com 
>
>
>dearZ
>
>http://www.vote-auction.com
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>
>CNN dedicated a show for vote-auction, live on the wire, vote-auction.com etoy.HANS over the mobile wire:: enjoy! http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram [a CNN special national/internat. report coming soon!] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>+ CHECK OUT the press.section:
>
>http://www.vote-auction.com/news.htm
>
>CNN, wirednews, WIRED, USA Today, ABC, NBC, FOX, Slate, Washington Post, Industry Standard, AP, CNET, Telepolis, Spiegel Online, Slashdot, ...
>
>
>various serious legal cases/ prosecutions :: 
>
>:: board of elections chicago
>:: california secretary of state
>:: board of election nebraska
>:: texas attorney general
>:: tech crime unit arizona,
>
>...heavy duty stuff! see some docs under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/legal/index.htm 
>
>the domain voteauction.com has been deactivated on orders of some local judge in chicago/illinois; sooo much fun and pressure there!
>read more in our attached press.release or under:: http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm
>
>
>our holding-company is specialized on high-risk ventures! 
>
>::.. we invest into / they invest into ..:: 
>
>ubermorgen.com, etoy.com, SILVER SERVER, rtmark.com, skim.com, uptoart.com, etxtreme.org, voortekk.com, rosa.com, dplanet.org, msn.de, micromusic.net, and many more.. 
>
>
>for ubermorgen.com and the etoy.HOLDING:: 
>
>:: lizvlx [CEO ubermorgen.com]
>
>:: etoy.HANS /net_CALLBOY [CEO vote-auction.com] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "if you don't get help from us, please get help somewhere!" http://www.ubermorgen.com :: shock marketing :: software dev. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
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>Vote-auction.com back online
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>Berlin, October 22, 2000
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>Below you find the latest press release by Vote-auction.com [formerly voteauction.com]. We have included the most relevant information on the latest developments of the site and the people and users behind it.
>
>You can also find this press release at http://www.vote-auction.com/pr.htm
>
>For any further information feel free to contact pr@vote-auction.com or in urgent cases call +49-175-2066954. 
>
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>
>
>[V] Voteauction.com is dead, long live Vote-auction.com 
>
>The "Leader of the Election Industry", vote-auction.com has regained access to the web via its new domain 
>
>http://www.vote-auction.com
>
>During the past week, diverse rumours and hear-say has been passed concerning the website which explores the high-risk consumer markets of the American election industry.
>
>The site's original domain had been ordered shut down by a local American court in the U.S. state of Illinois earlier this week. But whilst American authorities took their time and tax payers' money to legally pursue almost everybody related to the existence of the website, the owners of the site worked on a re-design and strategy paper for version 2.0 of the project.
>
>
>[V] Sue 'em 'til they drop...
>
>The legal authorities of Chicago, Illinois, made every effort to get the site out of service during the last 2 weeks. Amongst the original creator of the project, James Baumgartner, and the owner of the domain, Hans Bernhard, they also found it in the public's interest to sue:
>
>. domainbank.com: Domainbank inc., is the registry where 
>the original domain "voteauction.com" is registered. It is defendant in named Chicago legal case. 
>
>. silverserver.at: Both SILVER SERVER's president as 
>well as of one of the top technical staff are also named defendants in the Chicago legal case. SILVER SERVER is vote-auction.com's internet access provider. 
>
>
>[V] (Il)legal Battle?
>
>It remains open for discussion how it should be possible that a dns (domain name service) or an access provider could ever be responsible for contents accessible via domains they are providing routing services for. Vote-auction.com sees this as illegal practice in total violation of standards set by ICANN.
>
>We can only interpret domainbank's and SILVER SERVER's name on the list of defendants as a indirect means of repression to force vote-auction.com to go offline. 
>
>Concerning domainbank inc., this strategy seemed to work out for Chicago prosecutors: Because of domain- bank being involved in the legal case, the provider "politely asked" vote-auction.com to provide them with a USD 100,000.00 bond for potential legal costs. Vote-auction.com decided not to comply. Instead, we asked them to transfer our "voteauction.com" domain to another provider. This order was not fulfilled by domainbank, as they had at that time already made a "deal" with Chicago authorites "not to move the domain anywhere", as we were told by one of domain- bank's executives.
>
>Concerning "defendant" SILVER SERVER, we can provide you with a clear statement from their president: 
>
>"SILVER SERVER clearly and fully supports vote-auction.com. 
>SILVER SERVER president, o.o., is proud to be the billing contact for vote-auction.com. actually we received very interesting offers by investors to launch vote-auction.com in russia and japan."
>
>
>[V] Users give full support - despite potential respression 
>
>Lots of users of Vote-auction.com have described their support in various emails. This is another reason why we decided not to wait to get back online until local U.S. legal authorities understand that Vote-auction.com works for and NOT against democracy. We will keep on protecting any data which has been submitted to us by trusting users.
>
>Chicago courts have a somewhat different approach to user rights. The court has ordered all data of users registered with the site to be disclosed to the authorities. This would then enable prosecutors in Chicago to sue users of vote-auction.com individually for so-called "voter fraud".
>
>
>[V] Where to go from here
>
>Vote-auction.com is ready to deliver even more services to the vital elections markets. We will keep on focusing on the American elections until mid-November this year. In the meantime we will also finish our redesign and software upgrade in order to get ready for upcoming elections worldwide.
>
>
>For the Vote-auction.com team:
>
>lizvlx
>[V]ote-auction.com
>
>
>PLEASE NOTE: If you want to access Vote-auction.com via 
>web or mail, please be sure to use the correct domain: 
>
>pr@vote-auction.com
>http://www.vote-auction.com
>
>We will not be able to receive messages sent to the old address. Thank you.
>
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From: "Andreas Frank" <smashingtennisbaby@hotmail.com> To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Subject: nice try for freedom & democracy Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 11:57:29 PST
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2000 19:57:29.0974 (UTC) FILETIME=[F756F960:01C0443D] 

try to send e-mail no chance
bring vote-auction.com back as chat site keep me updated
wouldn't be surprised if we all disappaered tomorrow _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 

Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:05:46 +0100 (CET) From: aaron <aaron@ubermorgen.com>
To: hans_extreme <hans@ubermorgen.com>
Subject: quisse leute

hallo,

hier die email addr: devnull@quintessenz.at , nobody@quintessenz.at quintessenz hat den big brother award in .at veranstaltet. 

ciao,
aaron.Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: inke@pop.snafu.de
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:02:07 +0100
To: hans_extreme <hans@ubermorgen.com>
From: Inke Arns <inke@snafu.de>
Subject: Re: vote-auction
Cc: ab@transmediale.de

Lieber Hans,

hans@ubermorgen.com ist nicht auf Syndicate subskribiert, dafuer aber play@ubermorgen.com. Wenn Du von dieser Adresse postest, sollte es gehen. [Allerdings kam auch vor ein paar Tagen eine Fehlermeldung von play@ubermorgen.com, schicke ich Dir mal]. 

Ivan Zassoursky <zassoursky@yahoo.com> erkundigte sich uebrigens nach Dir - es ging um die Domain etxtreme.ru. Ich habe ihm Deine Adresse geschickt. Zassoursky ist derzeit in NY an der Columbia University oder so ... 

Gruss,
Inke




- http://www.v2.nl/~arns/
- travel report hong kong & new zealand
- http://www.v2.nl/~arns/Texts/HK+NZDelivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: inke@pop.snafu.de
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:05:11 +0100
To: hans_extreme <hans@ubermorgen.com>
From: Inke Arns <inke@snafu.de>
Subject: Re: vote-auction
Cc: ab@transmediale.de

Lieber Hans,

also, hier ist die Fehlermeldung


31 Oct 2000 10:40:38 -0000
Von MAILER-DAEMON@www.etxtreme.ru
An owner-syndicate@web.aec.at
Betreff failure notice
Teile (Quelle)

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at www.etxtreme.ru. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. 

<play@ubermorgen.com>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) 

--- Below this line is a copy of the message. 

[...]

??

Gruss,
Inke




- http://www.v2.nl/~arns/
- travel report hong kong & new zealand
- http://www.v2.nl/~arns/Texts/HK+NZDelivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:02:36 +0100
To: b!X <bix@geekforce.org>
From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: voteauction.geekforce.org

thanks a lot!

we will do some updates on the site tonite and include a page listing all the ways
to reach voteuauction.

best
lizvlx

As per suggestion via the latest RTMark missive, voteauction.geekforce.org now points to 62.116.31.68


- b!X <bix@geekforce.org>
Global Effort to Eradicate Know-nothings <http://www.geekforce.org> VOTE OR DIE!

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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:03:49 +0100
To: Brett Bloom <nobudget@megsinet.net>
From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: link
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com

thanks a lot!

we will do some updates on the site tonite and include a page listing all the ways
to reach voteuauction.

you can use the logo and everything the way you want to, we dont claim copyrights on anything, we consider voteauction to be in the public domain.

best
lizvlx

you will find a link from www.temporaryservices.org/fllw.html. please let us know if it is alright to use your logo. if you have any changes you want us to make, let me know.

Brett Bloom
for Temporary Services

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http://www.vote-auction.com
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:37:28 +0100
From: Alvar Freude <alvar.freude@merz-akademie.de> Organization: http://www.online-demonstration.org/ X-Accept-Language: de
To: net_CALLBOY <hans@ubermorgen.com>
Subject: Re: va, mirror

Hi hans,

>wir haben via CSL in duesseldorf vote-auciton registriert, joker.com, corenic.org hat den DNS aber abgedreht, da 

also corenic?
In der Mail die rausging hie§ es, es sei networksolutions gewesen. Corenix sitzt doch in der Schweiz, wie sind die da rechtlich gezwungen Euch rauszuwerfen?


>.net und .org sind registriert.. funken aber irgendwie no net..

wohl auch gesperrt worden ... :-(


>nic.at, die oesterreichische domain stelle hat unsere voteauction.at verzoegert, oskar von SILVER SERVER hat sie persoenlich angemeldet, normalerweise innert 24h aktiv, nicht bei uns! haben kalte fuesse!!! denken wohl die amis wuerden ganz oesterreich abdrehen...hehehe.. 

;-)


>kewl.. wir muessen jetzt die action intelligent auf dem "digital legal art" level halten, und gleiczeitig die wirklich mitterlweile brisante politische komponenten parallel spielen, rechtliche schritte, actions, etc... 

ja, auf jeden Fall!


>ja, mirror waere extrem wichtig, bitte kurz mit aaron@meta.lo-res.org contact aufnehmen, er ist unser security experte und kuemmert sich um solche sachen... das waer top!

OK, ich meld mich bei ihm. Auf Deutsch? Ach, ich schrieb ihm was auf englisch, dann wird er sich schon melden wenns auch auf D. geht ;) 


Allerdings, wie lufts mit den Scripts? Nunja, irgendwie kriegen wir das hin ...


Ciao
Alvar

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Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:46:30 +0100
From: Alvar Freude <alvar.freude@merz-akademie.de> Organization: http://www.online-demonstration.org/ X-Accept-Language: de
To: aaron@meta.lo-res.org
CC: net_CALLBOY <hans@ubermorgen.com>
Subject: Re: va, mirror

Hi,

uups, Aaron ist ja in der Verteilerliste drin, dann wird er schon deutsch verstehn ;)

Also, Hi Aaron!


>ja, mirror waere extrem wichtig, bitte kurz mit aaron@meta.lo-res.org contact aufnehmen, er ist unser security experte und kuemmert sich um solche sachen... das waer top!

Also, ich kann hier alles spiegeln, z.B. auf http://a-blast.org/ 


Allerdings kann ich keine Subdomains einrichten, die dann auf Eure IP zeigen, da ich keine eigenen Nameserver habe. 


Die Vote-Auction-Sachen sind ja teilweise mit Scripts -- beim Mirror drfte das das einzge Problem sein ...



Dragan schlgt gerade vor:
Die Front-Seite hier ablegen und die Unterseite zeigt wieder auf die IP. 


Ein komplett-Mirror ist aber natrlich auch OK, wie ihr wollt ;) 


Ciao
Alvar
Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:43:52 +0100
To: <kermit@perkigoth.com>
From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: RE: www.thecluephone.com
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com

thats ok!

we know that is is not so easy to
support this thing when you are living in the states and have people depending on
our services.

its the thought that counts...

best
lizvlx

I am very sorry to have to inform you that I can no longer offer use of the domain www.thecluephone.com.

I like to support the actions of RTMark and find my self agreeing with its actions 90% of the time, including this time. 

Unfortunately, the domain thecluephone.com is responsible for the name service of quite a few other domains, and any action taken by Network Solutions against thecluephone.com could prove to be disastrous to those other domains. Honestly, this is bad planning and domain layout on my part. 

I seriously doubt that the U.S. government would understand the concepts involved in my pointing a DNS address at another site, and would think that the site is actually running on my equipment. 

I have provided a link from the front page of www.thecluephone.com to the IP address of Vote-Auction.com in a way that makes it appear that the domain vote-auction.com is still available. As far as I know, NSI can not take action against links.

I am looking through my domain inventory to see if I can offer a different domain for use by your organization, that would prove to have a meaningful name.

I will let you know when I find one. I understand that time is of the essence here.

Thank you, and again, I am very sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:04 AM
To: kermit@perkigoth.com
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com
Subject: Re: www.thecluephone.com


thanks a lot!

we will do some updates on the site tonite and include a page listing all the ways
to reach voteuauction.

you can use the logo and everything the way you want to, we dont claim copyrights on anything, we consider voteauction to be in the public domain.

best
lizvlx

>I have pointed a domain I am not yet activly using for websites (www.thecluephone.com) at 62.116.31.68.
>
>I hope this helps.
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http://www.vote-auction.com
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

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http://www.vote-auction.com
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:28:59 +0100
To: ant@3zero.co.uk
From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: hell.com
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com

hell.com has decided to show solidarity with us, voteauction. therefore they have redirected their site to our site - which is at the moment without proper domains, as our domains have been confiscated by corenic/nsi.

best
lizvlx

Hi,

What has happened to hell.com!!!! If you know, could you let me know. 

Many thanks

Anthony
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Anthony Oram
Director
3Zero Ltd

35 Kingsland Road Shoreditch London E2 8AA 

E ant@3zero.co.uk

T 020 7684 0003
F 020 7684 0002

http://www.3zero.co.uk

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. . [V]ote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
http://www.vote-auction.com
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:25:31 -0500 (EST) From: RTMark admin <admin@rtmark.com>
To: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> cc: rms@gnu.org, frank guerrero <frank@rtmark.com>, hans@ubermorgen.com Subject: Re: Corporate vote-buying OK, satire not OK. Does rms@gnu.org agree? 

um, friends, the reason that richard asked for some screenshots of the pages is that he doesn't have web-browsing capabilities, he says so in his message. i've sent him one screenshot of the front page from a couple of days ago.

http://rtmark.com/
Turning information resources into emotional capital. 

On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, PR [V]ote-auction.com wrote: 

>
>dear richard,
>
>thanks for getting in touch.
>
>you can take a look at the site
>at http://62.116.31.68/
>
>we will also send you our latest
>press release which we will issue
>tonite.
>
>then i guess it is up to you to decide. 
>
>best :::))
>
>lizvlx
>
>>Hello Richard-
>>
>>Strange, for us it is sort of the opposite- it only reallly works as satire if it appears to really be buying and selling votes! 
>>
>>Anyway, I am forwarding this to voteacution proprietors, although tplease do not be offended if they can not honor your request at this time due to volume of responses. You can always find the site at its ip address, as stated in the release.
>>
>>
>>thanks!
>>
>>
>>frank
>>
>>At 7:02 AM -0700 11/6/00, Richard Stallman wrote: 
>>>To me it seems that a crucial question is whether this site is obviously a satire or whether it looks like real buying of votes. 
>>>
>>>I don't know, because I have never seen the site. Since I am not really an Internet user, I can't simply look at it. 
>>>
>>>Would you be so kind as to email me a small number of pages which show me the general tenor of the site, so I could tell? If I like it, I will put an item about it on www.stallman.org (which already has an item promoting "Call in sick day", and gets around 1000 hits a day). 
>
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>http://www.vote-auction.com
>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>
>bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 
>
>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:07:47 +0100
To: rms@gnu.org
From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: Corporate vote-buying OK, satire not OK. Does rms@gnu.org 
agree?
Cc: frank guerrero <frank@rtmark.com>, hans@ubermorgen.com, 
admin@rtmark.com


dear richard,

thanks for getting in touch.

you can take a look at the site
at http://62.116.31.68/

we will also send you our latest
press release which we will issue
tonite.

then i guess it is up to you to decide.

best :::))

lizvlx

Hello Richard-

Strange, for us it is sort of the opposite- it only reallly works as satire if it appears to really be buying and selling votes! 

Anyway, I am forwarding this to voteacution proprietors, although tplease do not be offended if they can not honor your request at this time due to volume of responses. You can always find the site at its ip address, as stated in the release.


thanks!


frank

At 7:02 AM -0700 11/6/00, Richard Stallman wrote: To me it seems that a crucial question is whether this site is obviously a satire or whether it looks like real buying of votes. 

I don't know, because I have never seen the site. Since I am not really an Internet user, I can't simply look at it. 

Would you be so kind as to email me a small number of pages which show me the general tenor of the site, so I could tell? If I like it, I will put an item about it on www.stallman.org (which already has an item promoting "Call in sick day", and gets around 1000 hits a day). 

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http://www.vote-auction.com
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Originating-IP: [128.165.48.33]
From: "J. Carmella Carter" <carmie@hotmail.com> To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Subject: web site
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:29:53 GMT
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2000 18:29:53.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E5F4C10:01C0481F] 

what happened to the website. I have tried to access it for the past couple of days. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 

Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Reply-To: <kermit@perkigoth.com>
From: "Kermit" <kermit@perkigoth.com>
To: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Cc: <hans@ubermorgen.com>, <webmasters@thecluephone.com> Subject: RE: www.thecluephone.com
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:38:30 -0800
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Importance: Normal

I am very sorry to have to inform you that I can no longer offer use of the domain www.thecluephone.com.

I like to support the actions of RTMark and find my self agreeing with its actions 90% of the time, including this time. 

Unfortunately, the domain thecluephone.com is responsible for the name service of quite a few other domains, and any action taken by Network Solutions against thecluephone.com could prove to be disastrous to those other domains. Honestly, this is bad planning and domain layout on my part. 

I seriously doubt that the U.S. government would understand the concepts involved in my pointing a DNS address at another site, and would think that the site is actually running on my equipment. 

I have provided a link from the front page of www.thecluephone.com to the IP address of Vote-Auction.com in a way that makes it appear that the domain vote-auction.com is still available. As far as I know, NSI can not take action against links.

I am looking through my domain inventory to see if I can offer a different domain for use by your organization, that would prove to have a meaningful name.

I will let you know when I find one. I understand that time is of the essence here.

Thank you, and again, I am very sorry.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:PR@[62.116.31.68]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:04 AM
>To: kermit@perkigoth.com
>Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com
>Subject: Re: www.thecluephone.com
>
>
>thanks a lot!
>
>we will do some updates on the site tonite and include a page listing all the ways
>to reach voteuauction.
>
>you can use the logo and everything the way you want to, we dont claim copyrights on anything, we consider voteauction to be in the public domain.
>
>best
>lizvlx
>
>>I have pointed a domain I am not yet activly using for websites (www.thecluephone.com) at 62.116.31.68.
>>
>>I hope this helps.
>>
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>http://www.vote-auction.com
>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>
>bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 
>
>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 03:01:31 +0100
To: Pope Dubious Provenance XI <hades@elsewhere.org> From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: DNS additions.
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com


dear pdp-xi

THANKS!!!
thius is so cool.

love it.

bingo.

thanks again,
best
lizvlx

Within the next hour or two, as dns propagates, vote-auction.elsewhere.org, voteauction.elsewhere.org, vote-auction.emperornorton.net and voteauction.emperornorton.net will point to 62.116.31.68. I just now saw the press release at http://www.rtmark.com/voteauctionpr.html or I would have done it sooner. 

Yours,


PDP-XI
Elsewhere.ORG

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http://www.vote-auction.com
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ema pr@vote-auction.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fax|at +43-1-9681022. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:11:56 +0100
To: brianbergevin@yahoo.com
From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: Fwd: failure delivery
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com

thanks for ya support..

great to get support, really
appreciate it!

best
lizvlx

>Just heard about NSI pulling Vote-Auction.com's domain, and I 
disapprove of it. I was around when NSI pulled the same stunt with ETOY.com. I can't do much to help, but I'll happily add a link to it from my website, www.stuffedwombat.com, as soon as I can tonight. 

Good luck.
-Brian Bergevin
www.stuffedwombat.com

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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: mailhans@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:30:05 +0100
To: liz@ubermorgen.com, hans@ubermorgen.com From: net_CALLBOY <hans@ubermorgen.com>
Subject: supporters list for press.release Cc: admin@rtmark.com


redirects::
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http://www.hell.com
http://voteauction.enemy.org
http://www.pixelmassaker/voteauction/
http://www.no-data.com
http://vote-auction.retronet.net
http://vote-auction.retronet.org
http://www.hydra.umn.edu
http://www.krapp.org
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~hydra/
http://vote.dement.org
http://vote-auction.dement.org
http://voteauction.dement.org
http://voteauction.robinlionheart.com
http://vote.ludd.net
http://voteauction.geekforce.org
http://voteauction.aporee.org
http://vote-auction.aporee.org
http://vote.auction donated by the info.war team http://vote.auction.xs2.net


sites::
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http://rtmark.com/voteauction.html
http://www.thecluephone.com
http://wipo.org.uk
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http://www.dplanet.co.za
http://pixelmassaker.com


listings/search/index:
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http://dmoz.org/Society/Activism/Media_Activism/Culture_Jamming/Vote_Auctions/ 


realname: voteauction

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:46:08 -0500 (EST) From: RTMark admin <admin@rtmark.com>
To: Kerry Stevens <gummalacca@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: keep up the good work

thanks!

http://rtmark.com/
Turning information resources into emotional capital. 

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Kerry Stevens wrote: 

>
>
>
>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?
>Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
From: "Isaac Baker" <ibaker@coastalnet.com> To: <hans@ubermorgen.com>
Subject: What is the ip
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:27:19 -0500
X-Priority: 3

Are you still up? what is the ip for <http://www.voteauction.com>www.voteauction.com? 

---
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Corporate Services
CoastalNet
DURO Communications
252-633-9997 ext. 2278


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Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:45:57 +0100
To: B.Richard@kunst.uni-frankfurt.de
From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: support
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com


dear birgit,

bzw. liebe birgit,

danke fuer die unterstuetzung, very cool. hab mirs angeschaut, is sehr nett von
euch.

wir machen die woche noch einen press release, wir schicken ihn dir auch, damit du ihn
weiterschicken kannst, falls du interessierte in deinem address book hast.

bsetz
lizvlx

thanks birgit! it's tricky mailing that address, you have to get it just right.
back in l.a. at the moment, was just in barcelona... how's everything? take care
e

http://rtmark.com/
Turning information resources into emotional capital. 

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Prof. Dr. Birgit Richard wrote: 

hi

i was not successfull mailing the link, may you? how are you and where are you at the moment birgit


hi
we have made a link to our site
we support voteauction


http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/fb09/kunstpaed/indexweb/start.htm 



RTMark admin schrieb:

>hi birgit!
>that's great, to link the i.p.--do let me or pr (cc'ed) know when you have! and maybe pr can think of something else to do, i'm stumped... take care
>ernest
>
>http://rtmark.com/
>Turning information resources into emotional capital. 
>
>On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Prof. Dr. Birgit Richard wrote: 
>
>>hi ernest
>>what may i do for support i will first link to the ip adress our institute website
>>but may i do more?
>>regards
>>birgit
>>


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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Delivered-To: mailhans@ubermorgen.com
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X-Sender: voteauction@mail.ubermorgen.com (Unverified) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:42:41 +0100
To: Big/Little Gallery <biglittle@soundsokay.com> From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: Big/Little supports Voteauction Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com

verrry cool!
we rae gonna do a press release
again this week, so watch out!

and, if ya want some ads to appear
on the v-a site, send material!

best
lizvlx

In support of Voteauction Big/Little has temporarily re-directed the soundsokay.com domain to point to: 

http://62.116.31.68


good luck,

BLG

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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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To: Allen G <hominid@savvymoose.com>
From: "PR [V]ote-auction.com" <PR@[62.116.31.68]> Subject: Re: Your Site
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com

;) <grin>

great to hear ya enjoying it....

this non.gentleman will gladly drop an
email if we need something from ya..:!

bestz
lizvlx

Greetings,

Well done gentlemen, well done. I believe screwing the american court system is a wonderful idea. I applaud your efforts, and if we can be of assistance, drop us an e-mail.

Allen G
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www.SavvyMoose.com

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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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