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hi there dear katharine,

hi my name is lizvlx and i am the partner of hans bernhard, the two of us operated voteauction from september 2000. 

just read your story about voteauction, precisely about james baumgartner and his current legal financing roundtrip.

it is cool to see that salon's readers are still interested in the political side of the prank, even one year after inauguration.

but i have one question: who come you are writing that hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? because neither me or him are rtmark agents. hans and i are running ubermorgen.com as a label and company.

for more info feel free to look at the v-a website http://www.vote-auction.net [they forgot to block that one] 

rtmark and us are friends, but surely we all do our own thing. same is true concerning james and rtmark. 

i wonder where you got that hans-is-rtmark information from...maybe you can tell me?

thanks in advance and have a sunny day,
lizvlx
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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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Hi there Lizvlx,

Sorry about that. That's what I wrote down in my notes from my conversation with James Baumgartner. I may have simply mis-understood.

If you like, I can change it.

Katharine

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hi there dear katharine,

hi my name is lizvlx and i am the partner of hans bernhard, the two of us operated voteauction from september 2000. 

just read your story about voteauction, precisely about james baumgartner and his current legal financing roundtrip.

it is cool to see that salon's readers are still interested in the political side of the prank, even one year after inauguration.

but i have one question: who come you are writing that hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? because neither me or him are rtmark agents. hans and i are running ubermorgen.com as a label and company.

for more info feel free to look at the v-a website http://www.vote-auction.net [they forgot to block that one] 

rtmark and us are friends, but surely we all do our own thing. same is true concerning james and rtmark. 

i wonder where you got that hans-is-rtmark information from...maybe you can tell me?

thanks in advance and have a sunny day,
lizvlx
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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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hiback katharine,

thanks for the reply.

would be nice if you could change it, yeah. this story is coming all the time and its getting kinda nervewrecking.

thanks again for the info, and have a
formidable day,
lizvlx



Sorry about that. That's what I wrote down in my notes from my conversation with James Baumgartner. I may have simply mis-understood.

If you like, I can change it.

Katharine
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From: PR [V]ote-auction.com [mailto:pr@vote-auction.net] Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 5:51 AM
To: km@salon.com
Cc: hans@ubermorgen.com
Subject: hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? 



hi there dear katharine,

hi my name is lizvlx and i am the partner of hans bernhard, the two of us operated voteauction from september 2000. 

just read your story about voteauction, precisely about james baumgartner and his current legal financing roundtrip.

it is cool to see that salon's readers are still interested in the political side of the prank, even one year after inauguration.

but i have one question: who come you are writing that hans bernhard is an rtmark agent? because neither me or him are rtmark agents. hans and i are running ubermorgen.com as a label and company.

for more info feel free to look at the v-a website http://www.vote-auction.net [they forgot to block that one] 

rtmark and us are friends, but surely we all do our own thing. same is true concerning james and rtmark. 

i wonder where you got that hans-is-rtmark information from...maybe you can tell me?

thanks in advance and have a sunny day,
lizvlx
--
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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! 

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Will culture-jam for food
By Katharine Mieszkowski

http://www.salon.com/tech/log/2001/05/18/voteauction/index.html 

Last year, James Baumgartner of Albany, N.Y., caused a media firestorm with his satirical Web site, Voteauction.com, which invited citizens to sell their votes to the highest bidder. It was a real new economy business model: Why not do an end run around all those fat-cat middlemen -- the political consultants, lobbyists and pollsters -- and let all the cash being spent to buy votes go straight to the people? 

<P>In the 2000 election buildup and aftermath, more than a thousand media outlets reported on the site which, like other attempts to <a href="/tech/log/2000/08/17/vote_sale/index.html">sell votes,</a> gave the media a chance to cover campaign finance reform in a funny light. But less than a year later, Baumgartner, 26, is $3,800 in the hole in legal bills -- and he doesn't even operate the site anymore. 

<P>This Saturday night, there will be an "emergency benefit" in San Francisco at <a target="new" href="http://www.atasite.org/">Artists' Television Access's</a> <a target="new" href="http://www.othercinema.com/"> Other Cinema</a> to help pay Baumgartner's legal bills. Baumgartner will be flying in from Boston, where he now lives, to give what's being billed as "a PowerPoint presentation on the benefits of the merger of capital and democracy." 



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<br><br><br>See my Home Page at:
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http://www.atsweb.neu.edu/polisci/m.gerace/index.htm 



From: "PR [V]ote-auction" <PR@vote-auction.net> To: mger@concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:47:04 +0200


dear michael

Is there any way that I could get a link up on your site? The first chapter of the novel can be read at
http://www.atsweb.neu.edu/polisci/m.gerace/index.htm 

was just trying to download/read the first chapter of your book, but the link on the above mentioned url/web-site is not working; 

could you send me the 1st chapter as .txt file or send me another url where i can read it;

thx in advance,
best regards

hans a. bernhard
[V]ote-auction

Michael P. Gerace


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bringing democracy and capitalism closer together! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

Hi,

Sorry about the difficulty. Sometimes their site is slow. The url is http://www.domhanbooks.com/monetopia.htm 

I just went there and copied the first chapter from that site onto a word document, which is attached here. I hope this suffices. 

Thanks again.

Michael P. Gerace

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