Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:51:25 -0700
Subject: Re: attn mr. lessig: vote-auction.com From: Lawrence Lessig <lessig@pobox.com> To: ubermorgen <hans@ubermorgen.com>


thankyou for your email, and my best to Volker as well. I personally am not in a position to take on this case, but I am happy to ask a few who may. It is best that I not comment on the merits of the case in this medium. 

More soon.

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Lessig
Stanford Law School
Crown Quadrangle
559 Nathan Abbott Way
Stanford, CA 94305-8610
650.736.0999 (vx)
650.723.8440 (fx)
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>From: ubermorgen <hans@ubermorgen.com>
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:16:12 +0200
>To: lessig@pobox.com
>Subject: attn mr. lessig: vote-auction.com 
>
>
>dear laurence
>
>we/ i received y/email address from volker grassmuth and pit schultz. [btw: best regards from volker to you!]
>
>my name is luzius a. bernhard, ceo of
>ubermorgen.com, owner of vote-auction.com [ex voteauction.com], founder of etoy.com. 
>
>as you might have heard in the news or seen on the net, vote-auction.com is a platform for us-voters to offer their votes for sale and for bidders to buy these votes via an auction (which will take place on nov 7th).
>
>the media coverage of the case is massive, we are currently doing about 10-15 interviews per day, especially with us newspapers, radio and tv stations. yesterday, at 12:30 eastern, vote-auction.com was the topic on CNN's
>"burden of truth", we joined the discussion via telephone.
>
>articles and broadcasts on/in NBC, Washington Post, wirednews, FOX, just to name a few big ones. 
>
>now, we have been named in a civil law suit initiated by the chicago board of elections. a temporary injunction has been granted by the judge of a local court in chicago. domainbank, our registrar, has been forced to shut down the domain voteauction.com. you can find more chicago legal papers at the following url
>http://www.vote-auction.com/legal/index.htm 
>
>further, there have been emails and legal documents received from texas, nebraska, california secretary of state and the technology crime unit in arizona, all threatening or actually filing law suits against myself and related people in the case of vote-auction.com [such as the ceo and the cto of our ISP, as it has been the case with the chicago law suit]. 
>
>we have a lawyer in berlin consulting us regarding potential problems associated with the ongoing chicago lawsuit. now, we have upcoming hearings, the first one on the 30th of october 2000 in chicago.
>
>we are now looking for US-lawyers to work with us in order to defend our case in the US. 
>
>we were told that you might be interested in such a case. or if this is not interesting for you, it would be great if you could point us to a colleague of yours.
>
>our company ubermorgen.com is a very small [3 people] company, working commercially in order to pay our own salaries and to finance our inhouse projects such as vote-auction.com, bannster.net, etoy, etxtreme.ru...
>
>we will be able to pay some legal support, but i think this would be drop of water onto a hot stone.
>
>looking very much forward to hearing from you! 
>
>best regards
>
>luzius a. bernhard
>kurrentgasse 10/22	ziegelstrasse 23
>a-1010 vienna/austria	10117 berlin/germany
>
>+43 676 930 00 61	+49 175 20 66 954
>
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Delivered-To: hans@ubermorgen.com
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:36:19 -0700
Subject: Re: attn mr. lessig: vote
From: Lawrence Lessig <lessig@pobox.com> To: ubermorgen <hans@ubermorgen.com>

It is true, isn't it, that you don't actually facilitate any sale of anything, right?
--

Lessig
Stanford Law School
Crown Quadrangle
559 Nathan Abbott Way
Stanford, CA 94305-8610
650.736.0999 (vx)
650.723.8440 (fx)
419.831.9295 (eFax)
<http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/lessig.html> mailto:lessig@pobox.com

>From: ubermorgen <hans@ubermorgen.com>
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:23:57 +0200
>To: Lawrence Lessig <lessig@pobox.com>
>Subject: Re: attn mr. lessig: vote
>
>
>dear l
>
>thank you very much for your fast reply. 
>
>we would be very happy to be introduced to someone whom you trust, and who would be interested and willing to defend us in this matter.
>
>looking forward
>
>best regards
>
>luzius bernhard
>
>
>>thankyou for your email, and my best to Volker as well. I personally am not in a position to take on this case, but I am happy to ask a few who may. It is best that I not comment on the merits of the case in this medium. 
>>
>>More soon.
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>. .if you dont get help from us,please get help somewhere! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>
>. http://www.vote-auction.com "bringing capitalism and demo- . crazy closer together" :: brought to you by ubermorgen.com: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,38559,00.html . http://www.cnn.com/video/burden/2000/10/24/show.rm80.ram . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . uberDISCLAIMER 01 :: : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .:: the contents of this email, and any attachments, are . . . .CONFIDENTIAL and intended only for the person[s] to whom. . . .they are addressed:: if you have received the email in. . . . .error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it . . .from your computer system:: do not copy or distribute it. . . .or disclose its contents to any person:: unless otherwise . . .stated, the views and opinions expressed in this email are. . .personal to the sender and do not represent the official. . . .view of the company :: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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