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To: liz@ubermorgen.com
From: net_CALLBOY <hans@ubermorgen.com>
Subject: v-a - thinking..
Cc: o@sil.at, hans@ubermorgen.com

hi there

some thoughts,,e-nfos to/bout v-a...


:: 99 seiten von boston, per fax auf communicator, 
jetzt an office fax.., a good one!

:: icann stellungnahme muessten wir bekommen?! oder 
via aclu, eff, oder so erzwingen lassen? 

:: vote-auction, respektive ubermorgen.com: 
political? business-art? legal art? ???

:: media-statistics [894 press-clippings, 94 
radio-interviews, 56 tv-reports, 341 magazine articles, 6 law suits, 13 general attorneys investigating, 11.401 official legal pages, 

:: corenic.org klagen! schadensersatz 4 mio. ATS 

:: ein neuer at-net mitarbeiter hat oskar obereder 
angerufen und im gesagt, er solle mit mir reden, da ich den etoy.BRAND gefaehrde, legal und so... z. hat ihm angeblich den auftrag dazu gegeben! er versuchts gnadenlos von allen seiten, zwecklos.. 

:: THE FIRST POP-STAR IP-ADDRESS:: http://62.116.31.68/ 
das ist geil liz! wir pushen diese ip konzeptiv jetzt ueber die naechsten jahre, als ip-POP-STAR.. hehehe.. mit vielen vielen links und vielen vielen projects..

:: NEW SLOGAN: to be or not to be? just do it! 

:: its different because its fundamentally different! 
hab ich geile feedbacks auf diesen slogan bekommen. 

:: credits-liste auf http://62.116.31.68/ 
james b.
ubermorgen
SILVER SERVER
rtmark
etoy
calif. secretary of state
mark andersen, wired news

:: secretary of the commonwealth of massachusetts 
hat uns einen netten brief geschrieben.. er ist aber echt vom style her total anders! correct formuliert, z.b. "as we understand your service, registered voters sign up to "sell" their vote.. .. please be advised that the services you offer on your web-site appear to be in direct conflict with massachusstets general law chapter 26..." --> unglaublich, denk an die californier! felony! CRIMINAL! etc.. geil! aber auch volle action!! diesmal nur gegen oskar und mich.

:: die aktion ist auch community maessig total 
am abgehen, die maia sagt, sie bekomme taeglich mehrere mails zum thema, aus ganz verschiedenen bereichen, mailinglisten, freunde, etc... vieleicht nur ein lokales phaenomen, aber ich glaub nicht!

:: ps: liz.. markenschutz ubermorgen? nicht noetig 
da web-site registration? aber die schweine werden uns die domain auch mal irgendwann abnehmen wenn wir mal wieder action machen...

:: liebe gruesse vom ubermorgen.com HQ
the vote-auction legal centre...

:: legal art exhibition by ubermorgen.com and SILVER 
SERVER im/am NY MOMA web-site/ausstellungshalle, 1. februar - 31. oktober 2023 .. HAHAHA... 


CIAO
hans-e

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From: lizvlx <liz@ubermorgen.com>
Subject: beta 01

SUBJECT: [V]ote-auction announces end-results 



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

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[V]ote-auction announces end-results of grand auction 

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Vienna/Berlin, November 6th, 2000, 6pm CET 

Below you find the latest press release by [V]ote-auction: 

http://62.116.31.68
[formerly Vote-auction.com and Voteauction.com]. 

You can also find this press release at
http://62.116.31.68/pr.htm

For any further information feel free to contact pr@[62.116.31.68] or in urgent cases call our ubermorgen.com hotlines:

berlin +49-175-2066954
vienna +43 676 9300061

it's different because it's absolutely different:: [V]ote-auction	http://62.116.31.68
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[V] Intro

Vote-auction, the election industry leader, is proud to annnounce the end-results of the grand - or acurately said - notorious vote-auction game. Many acted as if they had actually considered it a real business, well, in fact it was a real-life game for voters who finally had found a way to face what their vote was worth. And for us, the creators, it turned out to be les of a service and more of a legal rollercoaster.


[V] Game? Street Theatre? Comic? Cartoon? Business? 

Lot has been said about how to distinguish between a real business and a "cartoon in a sunday newspaper". Most of the nice sayings are true for the offline world - on the net, things are different. Whether or not one likes it, the net is NOT a commercial playground a priori. It is an open space for ANY communication needs between any people. If you think it is hard to know for sure if our site was a game or a business, well, then that's a good lesson you have learned. Try these sites and check out if you know it if they are for real:

http://www.mslinux.com
http://www.fpo.at
http://

There is no last page with cartoons on the net. That is why it is called an interlinked system and not a book. You better learn the differnence now, if not, you might fall for a real prank.


[V] Who is suing whom?

. Massachussetts is suing vote-auction and our providers 
reason: "selling votes"
status: injunction order
. Missouri is suing vote-auction and our providers 
reason: "false promises to consumers"
status: injunction order
. Chicago Board of Elections is suing vote-auction and our providers 
reason: "selling and buying of votes"
status: injunction order
. diverse "investigations" by attorney generals e.a. running 
reason: diverse
status: unknown
. Vote-auction is suing CORE in switzerland 
reason: breach of contract, damages, denial of service status: preparation

it seems that we are witnessing the birth of a new sub-genre of action-art: legal art. appearantly it is even not so much the end-user in front of the terminal to whom we appeal most, but the people in u.s. legal offices...

Nevertheless, we are sure that the cases will be dropped, as it will turned out, even to the legal folk, that there are people out there buying and selling votes - but that it is not us. We gave you the showcase. The real dealers do their business in the shady rooms of expensive clubs. 


[V] Campaigning for our rights

We would like to thank our partners for giving us the support we need and enjoy. To those who dispise us: Thank you also! We regard negative and positive feedback alike as active support and intelligent moves of communication. To those who think that we have now given up: Come on. We have all had our fun. Now, let's face reality. The net is, at the time, NOT a free place. It is controlled by U.S. courts of all names. The root zone is basically owned by the U.S. ministry of commerce [well, then maybe the Chicago Board of Elections should have sued the Ministery]. If they decide to halt the internet tomorrow, then it is Nike time - just do it!
Zynical? No. Realistic.


[V] What is new on the Site

We have opened our site to the public, so every-one can see for themselves what is happening. Feel free to access the user database - and do not be surprised to find no personal data. Asking for data at the frontdesk does not necessarily imply storing it in the backoffice...
What you can find is the socio-demographics of everybody who dared to play vote-auction. If you ask yourself if the numbers are real - that is an intelligent question, but has never been answered on the net. Neither can we. You will have to be quick to access the site - we will put it offline by November 8th - when the game is over, the players have to go home.



[V] Final note

We wish all 3 candidates the best of luck for Election Day, and may the guy with the best looks - oops, sorry, the best ideas and intentions, win.

Good bye to you, you have been a great audience! 


[V] credits

James Baumgartner
SILVER SERVER
enemy.org
joker.com
hell.com
pixelmassaker.com
cnn.com


For the Vote-auction team


lizvlx	hans
the-woman-behind	the-guy-who-gets-sued

[V]ote-auction


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